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knomadd 05-09-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 6665979)
Are the PB a-arm bushings now drilled for grease zerks?

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6666004)
The uppers are, I haven't taken the lowers out of the box yet.

Interesting... When I asked about the lowers several months ago, I was told they didn't need grease zerks since they used delrin bushings. I wonder what changed their mind? :confused:

Parts look great though. Looks like you're collecting some quality stuff.

C10_ustacould 05-09-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 6666200)
Interesting... When I asked about the lowers several months ago, I was told they didn't need grease zerks since they used delrin bushings. I wonder what changed their mind? :confused:

Parts look great though. Looks like you're collecting some quality stuff.

Yep, now I need to spend some quality time installing all this stuff!:lol:

lolife99 05-09-2014 12:23 PM

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I'm sure grease couldn't hurt.
I know of one truck that the owner complained about a slight squeak on the bushing.
I'm sure adding a grease zerk will prevent this.

C10_ustacould 05-09-2014 12:59 PM

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My lowers have them too. bad pic, but you get the idea.

Hart_Rod 05-09-2014 01:09 PM

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Mirror placement measurements:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...mounting+holes

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...mounting+holes

C10_ustacould 05-22-2014 09:20 PM

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Columns and shift-gate question for the C10 gurus; If I use a late model 5.3L/6L80E set up which only uses PRNDM (M for manual mode) will the shift-gate in a factory tilt match up? Were tilts available with the powerglide transmission (PRNDL) option? Seems like a perfect marriage between old and new school. With the 4L60E the shift-gates and the indicator (PRNOD21) never really jived. If this will work I plan to use a factory tilt with the powerglide shift indicator. Thoughts?

Hart_Rod 05-22-2014 09:49 PM

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There is no shift gate in the tilt, it's in the transmission.

C10_ustacould 05-22-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 6689632)
There is no shift gate in the tilt, it's in the transmission.

If this is true why do you have to pull it to you to shift out of Park, and why can't you pull it straight from park to first? There must be something in the column that stops it from falling out of one postion and into the next. I would agree the transmissions have a detent, but the column must have something too.

mcbassin 05-23-2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6689588)
Columns and shift-gate question for the C10 gurus; If I use a late model 5.3L/6L80E set up which only uses PRNDM (M for manual mode) will the shift-gate in a factory tilt match up? Were tilts available with the powerglide transmission (PRNDL) option? Seems like a perfect marriage between old and new school. With the 4L60E the shift-gates and the indicator (PRNOD21) never really jived. If this will work I plan to use a factory tilt with the powerglide shift indicator. Thoughts?

I wish I knew the answer to this too. I just installed my Lokar linkage on my Factory GM tilt (LINK)and with my 4L60E Transmission the PRND321 doesn't match up worth a crap. It goes from P to N when you go from park to reverse. I may have it adjusted wrong?

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If this is true why do you have to pull it to you to shift out of Park, and why can't you pull it straight from park to first? There must be something in the column that stops it from falling out of one postion and into the next. I would agree the transmissions have a detent, but the column must have something too
There is a steel piece inside the column that has notches that seem to like they need synched with the transmission...?
LINK

Hart_Rod 05-23-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6689780)
If this is true why do you have to pull it to you to shift out of Park, and why can't you pull it straight from park to first? There must be something in the column that stops it from falling out of one postion and into the next. I would agree the transmissions have a detent, but the column must have something too.

You are correct about PARK. Factory tilts and aftermarket tilts have a "safety" detent. All the rest of the detents (position lock) are in the transmission. As far as the column, some of the older columns (non-tilt) did have some built in detents. The tilt column in my 68 is factory if you want to try it out sometime, :D.

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 6689846)
I wish I knew the answer to this too. I just installed my Lokar linkage on my Factory GM tilt (LINK)and with my 4L60E Transmission the PRND321 doesn't match up worth a crap. It goes from P to N when you go from park to reverse. I may have it adjusted wrong?

There is a steel piece inside the column that has notches that seem to like they need synched with the transmission...?
LINK

Mike - you just have to keep playing with it, it takes time and patience to do. I spent about 2 hrs yesterday messing with one and got it close, but it still needs some more adjusting. If you have someone to help you, it goes a lot quicker....

One other thing I forgot to mention, depending on where you engine is located in your truck, you may need to order a longer shift rod from LOKAR. I had to use a long one on all three of my trucks and they are all positioned in the truck differently and have different transmissions.
Here's a good video on how to set it up:

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 6690005)
You are correct about PARK. Factory tilts and aftermarket tilts have a "safety" detent. All the rest of the detents (position lock) are in the transmission. As far as the column, some of the older columns (non-tilt) did have some built in detents. The tilt column in my 68 is factory if you want to try it out sometime, :D.



Mike - you just have to keep playing with it, it takes time and patience to do. I spent about 2 hrs yesterday messing with one and got it close, but it still needs some more adjusting. If you have someone to help you, it goes a lot quicker....

One other thing I forgot to mention, depending on where you engine is located in your truck, you may need to order a longer shift rod from LOKAR. I had to use a long one on all three of my trucks and they are all positioned in the truck differently and have different transmissions.
Here's a good video on how to set it up: 1972 K25 - Lokar Shift Linkage Part 2 - YouTube

LOL, I'll need to spend some time inspecting and evaluating the operation of the shifter... 3 days should do it... I'll just come get it for the weekend. ;)

Hart_Rod 05-23-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6690044)
LOL, I'll need to spend some time inspecting and evaluating the operation of the shifter... 3 days should do it... I'll just come get it for the weekend. ;)

Keys are in it....;). You'll have to put the vent windows back in before you can drive it though......:devil:.

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 6690062)
Keys are in it....;). You'll have to put the vent windows back in before you can drive it though......:devil:.

:lol: I've done a few of those recently, wouldn't take a minute.

lolife99 05-23-2014 10:24 AM

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Buck,... the track width of your front wheels has bugged me ever since you put them on.
Are you sure they are 5.25" backspace?
I just checked on AR's website and they only show a 4.95" BS on the 20x8.5 wheel.
http://www.americanracing.com/wheels...8017/techsheet
It won't be an issue with your narrowed Porterbuilt a-arms,... but I was trying to see why they stuck out as far as they did.
Does your truck have the Modular CPP spindles on it?

It appears the rear 20x9.5 wheels have a 5.84" BS,... that's why you were so close to your wheel tubs.

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 6690175)
Buck,... the track width of your front wheels has bugged me ever since you put them on.
Are you sure they are 5.25" backspace?
I just checked on AR's website and they only show a 4.95" BS on the 20x8.5 wheel.
http://www.americanracing.com/wheels...8017/techsheet
It won't be an issue with your narrowed Porterbuilt a-arms,... but I was trying to see why they stuck out as far as they did.
Does your truck have the Modular CPP spindles on it?

It appears the rear 20x9.5 wheels have a 5.84" BS,... that's why you were so close to your wheel tubs.

You know I never measured, I thought I read the backspacings were 5.25 and 5.50... Went back and checked Tommy's ads and it states the 9.5s are a 5.85 bs, I over looked it. No matter as I like the tucked look they have, just need to get the front tucked too. :metal: My current spindles are not the modular style but I will be swapping to 63-70 drop spindles to better work with the rack n pinion in my PB kit so I will certainly have them when it's done and on coil overs. :)

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 10:56 AM

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Honestly, if I were made of money I'd have a set of Boyd Spectrums in 20x8.5 and 20x10 with black centers and machined (or maybe polished) lips...

Can anyone photoshop the center of this wheel black?

shearjs 05-23-2014 11:13 AM

Re: Project: Shiro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 6690005)
You are correct about PARK. Factory tilts and aftermarket tilts have a "safety" detent. All the rest of the detents (position lock) are in the transmission. As far as the column, some of the older columns (non-tilt) did have some built in detents. The tilt column in my 68 is factory if you want to try it out sometime, :D.



Mike - you just have to keep playing with it, it takes time and patience to do. I spent about 2 hrs yesterday messing with one and got it close, but it still needs some more adjusting. If you have someone to help you, it goes a lot quicker....

One other thing I forgot to mention, depending on where you engine is located in your truck, you may need to order a longer shift rod from LOKAR. I had to use a long one on all three of my trucks and they are all positioned in the truck differently and have different transmissions.
Here's a good video on how to set it up: 1972 K25 - Lokar Shift Linkage Part 2 - YouTube


I talked to Lokar this morning. The longer rod that Rob mentioned is part # 1832. It is 26" instead of the standard 21" that comes with the kit. Hope this helps.

greg65 05-23-2014 11:35 AM

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Good looking build you got going Buck.

Subscribed

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by greg65 (Post 6690259)
Good looking build you got going Buck.

Subscribed

Thanks!

lolife99 05-23-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6690196)
You know I never measured, I thought I read the backspacings were 5.25 and 5.50... Went back and checked Tommy's ads and it states the 9.5s are a 5.85 bs, I over looked it. No matter as I like the tucked look they have, just need to get the front tucked too. :metal: My current spindles are not the modular style but I will be swapping to 63-70 drop spindles to better work with the rack n pinion in my PB kit so I will certainly have them when it's done and on coil overs. :)

I would definitely add the CPP Modular spindles since you are swapping to the 63-70 version.
Looks like part # CP30106-2.
http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...op_Spindle.htm

And Summit Racing has free shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cl...del/c10-pickup

knomadd 05-23-2014 02:53 PM

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I really like those Boyds wheels. Looking forward to seeing some PB parts go together!

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 6690288)
I would definitely add the CPP Modular spindles since you are swapping to the 63-70 version.
Looks like part # CP30106-2.
http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...op_Spindle.htm

And Summit Racing has free shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cl...del/c10-pickup

Summit is the plan...

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 6690476)
I really like those Boyds wheels. Looking forward to seeing some PB parts go together!

I am chomping at the bit but my wife would blow a gasket if I start pulling the truck apart while we are trying to sell our house. Not sure if I shared a pic of what is distracting me from my truck build... a new house... with a 3 car garage. :)

smbrouss70 05-23-2014 03:57 PM

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Congrats! Looks like the new garage is going to be roomy. So where is the wife going to park? :lol:

knomadd 05-23-2014 05:35 PM

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I want a 3-car garage! That'll be nice, even if you have to give up a space for the wife, like I do.

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 08:21 PM

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Did a little grinding tonight, I think this one is close enough that the body man can smooth it the rest of the way. Just happy to have made some progress.

C10_ustacould 05-23-2014 08:27 PM

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Another update, Hart_Rod and I went and picked up some sheet metal last weekend. It was a marathon ride to Atlanta and back but it was worth it. Here is a pic of what I like to call my rust free west coast truck repair kit.

sprint_9 05-24-2014 11:48 PM

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Ive been wanting to build or buy a new house for 2 years but haven't had much luck, looks like you got a nice pad.

C10_ustacould 05-25-2014 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sprint_9 (Post 6691965)
Ive been wanting to build or buy a new house for 2 years but haven't had much luck, looks like you got a nice pad.

Thanks sprint, My wife has been waiting 20 years for this house and I am happy we can finally do it.

Rusbuilt 05-25-2014 08:43 AM

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House looks great sir!!

C10_ustacould 05-25-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusbuilt (Post 6692193)
House looks great sir!!

Thanks Rus!

C10_ustacould 06-06-2014 02:09 AM

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I think I'm going to try and find a 68 front clip... and some buddy buckets. :)

preacher anthony 06-06-2014 10:43 AM

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Where did the sheet metal come from for replacement?

C10_ustacould 06-06-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by preacher anthony (Post 6709135)
Where did the sheet metal come from for replacement?

The rockers are NOS GM pieces, everything else is Tri-Plus from AMD.

preacher anthony 06-06-2014 02:39 PM

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Thanks, I was thinking of using AMD myself. I just bought a '69, need rockers, inner fenders and some patch panels.

C10_ustacould 06-06-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by preacher anthony (Post 6709431)
Thanks, I was thinking of using AMD myself. I just bought a '69, need rockers, inner fenders and some patch panels.

Cool, definitely good stuff from AMD. My rockers came from board member davestrucks, he may have another set. Be prepared though they are pricey.

preacher anthony 06-06-2014 02:51 PM

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Thanks, I just need the driver's side.

track70 06-06-2014 02:54 PM

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i know where some 67/68 front end pieces are..Hint Hint MEEE!!

C10_ustacould 06-06-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by track70 (Post 6709450)
i know where some 67/68 front end pieces are..Hint Hint MEEE!!

What ya got?

track70 06-07-2014 01:40 AM

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Umm..Complete front grille, hood, and maybe core support..Not sure if i wanna sell it though.. good Original stuff is hard to come by these days.

BigMike 06-07-2014 04:20 AM

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Not the best PS job but it will give you an idea.

Mike

http://www.bigmikeskustoms.com/Misc_...eversedlo2.jpg


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