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AJs72K5 12-18-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3032767)
Nope, never talked with him about the flip, just ordered it directly from the web site.

Shouldn't the words '1st gen' in the bracket be readable from the rear? :confused:
That's moslty what made me think they were in correctly...still dunno.

They're on right for a 52" spring. If I had to guess, the springs are really stiff and are pulling in the shackle angle.

Fuel injection looks awesome, btw.

Chevyman63 12-18-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AJs72K5 (Post 3034858)
They're on right for a 52" spring. If I had to guess, the springs are really stiff and are pulling in the shackle angle.

Fuel injection looks awesome, btw.

I'll second that.

I checked mine tonight and they go on the same way. Are yours cut out for the gas tank bolts?

AJs72K5 12-18-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyman63 (Post 3034894)
I'll second that.

I checked mine tonight and they go on the same way. Are yours cut out for the gas tank bolts?


Yessir. Mine are notched for the gas tank straps. I traded PMs with someone about that a while back....was it you Tim?

Chevyman63 12-18-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AJs72K5 (Post 3034952)
Yessir. Mine are notched for the gas tank straps. I traded PMs with someone about that a while back....was it you Tim?

Could've been...my memory doesn't work so good anymore. :lol:

BLUE THUNDER 12-18-2008 11:07 PM

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Love the build thread. I especially like the H2 wheels. They look awesome. Can't wait to see more. Later, Mario.

vtblazer 12-19-2008 09:22 AM

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TPI serp belt assembly mock up.

Hard to find part, I'll tell ya.

One more ginormous box outta here!

vtblazer 12-19-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 3032648)
Kurt, dumb question time.... do you have the rear shackle flip brackets on the right way?


I guess I do.
After talking with other guys having done this with the DIY flip on their 1st gens, I was told I got em on correctly.

When I do order my rear springs, I'll make an effort to have the shackles sit @ the magical 10* loaded.

Big J 12-19-2008 09:33 AM

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Motor looks good to me. You gonna have air or is the compressor for a air tank?

vtblazer 12-19-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 3035679)
Motor looks good to me. You gonna have air or is the compressor for a air tank?

Dunno right now, originally I was going to just install the dummy pulley but since it's already there (and if it actually works) I might consider using it as an on board air set up.

FormerMember 12-19-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3035674)
I guess I do.
After talking with other guys having done this with the DIY flip on their 1st gens, I was told I got em on correctly.

When I do order my rear springs, I'll make an effort to have the shackles sit @ the magical 10* loaded.

A 56" long spring 3/4 ton will do that :)

Check the measurement on the blue k5... I.E. where the shackle drops. Looks like to me that they're dropping in the same place. The blue K5 has 4" lift 3/4ton springs (56") that with the 4" shackle flip netted 6" total lift and is very flexible, as you know.

AJs72K5 12-19-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 3035690)
A 56" long spring 3/4 ton will do that :)

Check the measurement on the blue k5... I.E. where the shackle drops. Looks like to me that they're dropping in the same place. The blue K5 has 4" lift 3/4ton springs (56") that with the 4" shackle flip netted 6" total lift and is very flexible, as you know.

It's definately something with the springs. Go back and look at post #244. The shackle angle is almost the same with the ORD flip on it. Keep in mind too that there's almost no load on those springs right now either.

Chevyman63 12-19-2008 01:03 PM

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Wow...you sure do have a lot of really cool toys! :chevy: :metal:

vtblazer 12-19-2008 03:54 PM

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Merry X-Mas...ME! :D

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...ms/d60hsa1.jpg

Big J 12-19-2008 04:21 PM

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Alright, brain fart here. What are they? Doesn't really matter as they are friggin' cool.:lol:

msgross 12-19-2008 04:21 PM

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nice, high steer crossover conversion?

Chevyman63 12-19-2008 04:58 PM

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I'm with you Big J...didn't have a clue, but they look cool! :lol:

vtblazer 12-19-2008 05:57 PM

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heh heh...too funny. :lol:

Cross over set up, I had.
Hydraulic assist, I had.
(both sets I bought used over the last couple years waiting for this build)

So today, when I tore into the D60 and saw BOTH bushings cracked in half I knew they would need to be rebuilt, then I remembered reading about a company that made arms the delete the spring...so I went back to the page I had put into favorites months ago to check em out.

The pic is of a high steer kit, includes both arms, studs, nuts & new bushings, all of which I need anyway.
So I figured since I already had the cross over, why not do both arms and get high steer too.

Whew...that was a lot of typing. :lol:

Also got into the firewall & dash pulling parts/pieces off.
Pulled the old junk column too.

FormerMember 12-19-2008 07:57 PM

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wfoconcepts.com

vtblazer 12-20-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 3036456)
wfoconcepts.com

Whats there you think I might need/want?

EDIT:
Looked at their steering parts but I still like the adjust-ability of the ones I ordered as compared to having to remove and re-shim the WFO ones.

LUV2XCLR8 12-20-2008 06:48 AM

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Looking good Kurt ;)

Big J 12-20-2008 08:48 AM

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Would a cross over setup benefit me with 3-4" of lift? Is there a kit or something I can cheap together?

msgross 12-20-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3036286)
heh heh...too funny. :lol:

Whew...that was a lot of typing. :lol:


all you had to say is what I always tell my wife to say "you were right Mike" :lol::lol:

vtblazer 12-20-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 3037211)
Would a cross over setup benefit me with 3-4" of lift? Is there a kit or something I can cheap together?

Your fine with just running a new arm with a 4" lift, not a problem.

Bump steer is the bigger issue I'm addressing with the cross over.

I'm building this one to be what I'm calling my "streetable-Beatable-Blazer"
Meaning that by installing all those rugged off road mods, it will only benefit me in the end.

FormerMember 12-20-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3037181)
Whats there you think I might need/want?

EDIT:
Looked at their steering parts but I still like the adjust-ability of the ones I ordered as compared to having to remove and re-shim the WFO ones.

Trevor offers the adjust-ability, too... I have them on the Dog. I like the steering behind the axle, as well.

However, I didn't see that you already ordered some... thought you were asking for a place.

vtblazer 12-20-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 3037514)
Trevor offers the adjust-ability, too... I have them on the Dog. I like the steering behind the axle, as well.

However, I didn't see that you already ordered some... thought you were asking for a place.

No prob, thanks for the effort.

I didn't see the adjustable ones on WFO but being I looked at 5:00am didn't search to hard either...:waah:

Today's searching will be for Lizard spray on sound deaden-er and maybe a Borgsen intermediate shaft assembly.

FormerMember 12-20-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3037517)
No prob, thanks for the effort.

I didn't see the adjustable ones on WFO but being I looked at 5:00am didn't search to hard either...:waah:

Today's searching will be for Lizard spray on sound deaden-er and maybe a Borgsen intermediate shaft assembly.

PSC for the steering shaft.

Ebay for the soundproofing/bedliner. I need some too at some point.

vtblazer 12-21-2008 07:55 AM

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Pulled the D60 out and started on it.

Looks like I'll be making a visit here:
http://extremeaxlesales.com/contact-us.aspx

So far the list for D60 parts go something like this.
Hubs, Bearings, ARB diff cover, U-joints and possibly a rotor set. :rolleyes:

http://extremeaxlesales.com/ProductI.../warn%20lo.jpg

http://extremeaxlesales.com/ProductI...RB%20COVER.jpg

vtblazer 12-21-2008 07:57 AM

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Forgot my D60 pics...

Seen worse but it's gonna take a lot of clean up, both inside & out.

Big J 12-21-2008 09:35 AM

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Nice parts. Heres what I bought to line the underside and inside. This place has it sprayed all over the shelving in the store. Looks nice and durable. AND its cheap. :metal:
http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/auto.../Autobahn.html

vtblazer 12-21-2008 09:42 AM

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Thanks for the link, I've been looking at this stuff:
http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/sound_control.php

I need to order it (or something) soon, once I clean up those 'extra' holes in the tub, I'll be ready to spray it on.

Another reason is that it needs to happen prior to putting anything back under the dash and I want to get that going asap.

Chevyman63 12-21-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer (Post 3038820)
Thanks for the link, I've been looking at this stuff:
http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/sound_control.php

I need to order it (or something) soon, once I clean up those 'extra' holes in the tub, I'll be ready to spray it on.

Another reason is that it needs to happen prior to putting anything back under the dash and I want to get that going asap.

How will you finish the bottom of the tub? This stuff?

vtblazer 12-21-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevyman63 (Post 3038827)
How will you finish the bottom of the tub? This stuff?

Without researching the product a little more, my plans were to do the entire tub interior, inside the firewall, under the dash and inside of the doors.

If I can't find enough info via their web site, I'll call em next week and talk with someone there about it.

Jtrux 12-21-2008 12:58 PM

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Every D60 build I see always ends up with people finding out that their axle needs a complete overhaul. I'm kinda surprised seeing as how they are supposed to be all beefy and such. I guess they must get really abused in those CUCV's everyone gets them from.

vtblazer 12-21-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtrux (Post 3039056)
Every D60 build I see always ends up with people finding out that their axle needs a complete overhaul. I'm kinda surprised seeing as how they are supposed to be all beefy and such. I guess they must get really abused in those CUCV's everyone gets them from.


I doubt a complete overhaul is necessary with each & every D60 build but it sure is cheap insurance while it's tore down and accessible, most likely why it's so common.

Definitely the reason I'm doing it, way easier to do it now.

vtblazer 12-22-2008 01:57 PM

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After sitting down and thinking things though, I cut back on a couple parts and added a couple too.

I was goofing around on the Extreme axle site making a mock up order with all the parts I 'thought' I wanted to replace and then looked over the saw the (potential) total. :eek:

Needless to say, I decide to take a different approach.

Until I pull things apart, clean up and inspect each part, all I'm ordering are the basics right now.
*Diff cover & a seal kit but here's the kicker...

Seeing I had to order a new hub lockout set and seeing how both the 30 spline and the 35 spline kits are the same price, I decided to bump up the toughness of the D60 with a set of alloy 4340 35 spline outers w/full circle clips.

http://extremeaxlesales.com/ProductI...arts%20020.jpg

70rs/ss 12-22-2008 04:38 PM

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I just found a D60 housing (in a wrecking yard, someone plucked the ring and pinion assembly and the axle shafts?) Is the houfsing, steering knuckle assemblies with brakes worth getting if I can score it cheap?? I'd need a new diff and gears, plus axles?? I found a killer 70's dodge 4-door truck with a set of Dana 60's (front and rear) it is forest service green so it has lived the life, but he wants a grand for the whole truck and it runs and drives good???


DANA 60 help on isle 6?!

4bynut 12-22-2008 09:58 PM

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I'd say yes for the D60 housing if you can get it for $400 or hopefully less. D60's always have a resale if you decide not to use it. Just my $.02. Jason

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Originally Posted by 70rs/ss (Post 3041106)
I just found a D60 housing (in a wrecking yard, someone plucked the ring and pinion assembly and the axle shafts?) Is the houfsing, steering knuckle assemblies with brakes worth getting if I can score it cheap?? I'd need a new diff and gears, plus axles?? I found a killer 70's dodge 4-door truck with a set of Dana 60's (front and rear) it is forest service green so it has lived the life, but he wants a grand for the whole truck and it runs and drives good???


DANA 60 help on isle 6?!


Hey Kurt,
I'll get some pics up on my mud racer post of the pieces i've got for my D60. I just got my rotor back from being turned down for my wilwood dynalite calipers. I'm waiting for a friend to cut out my brackets for them. Also have gears and a new trac loc to install. I'll post up on mine though, i don't want to hijack yours. Jason

msgross 12-22-2008 10:12 PM

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i'm gonna try using this stuff for my floor, on the outside... maybe lizardskin or brownbread (B-quiet) on the inside...
http://www.tptools.com/p/2600,233_U-...Liner-Kit.html

here is a pic of it used by a board member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=269534&page=5

vtblazer 12-23-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jtrux (Post 3039056)
Every D60 build I see always ends up with people finding out that their axle needs a complete overhaul. I'm kinda surprised seeing as how they are supposed to be all beefy and such. I guess they must get really abused in those CUCV's everyone gets them from.

Now that I've finished tearing down my own D60, I'll add this. :rolleyes:

Complete overhaul, yep it needs it. (although not everything)
*Hub lock outs were toast, grease was dried and rotten, caps were busted.
*Wheel bearings on pass. side were rough and running in rusty grease.
*Drivers side looked good and seemed smooth but they'll be changed out anyway.
*Inner axle seals are notorious for leaking on these, those will be changed out.
*Rotors are junk, no reason to even try & turn em down.
*Calipers are still an unknown but most likely crap as well.

The good:
*Gears are in excellent condition
*Looks to have a limited slip
*Dust shield is in good condition
*Overall rust is light.

So to add the Jtux's observation, there's no such thing as a 'cheapy' D60 out there in truckdom.
They've all been beat & abused or left out in a field somewhere to rust away.

:but: It's still one of the best axles out there and throwing the cash into it now will pay off huge in the end proving the D60's well deserved reputation of toughness & durability. :cool:

vtblazer 12-23-2008 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by msgross (Post 3041710)
i'm gonna try using this stuff for my floor, on the outside... maybe lizardskin or brownbread (B-quiet) on the inside...
http://www.tptools.com/p/2600,233_U-...Liner-Kit.html

here is a pic of it used by a board member
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=269534&page=5


Like the "shake & spray" all in one bottle part of it, that's cool.

Brown bread is a really decent product from what I've read but for me personally, spray on products net out better coverage as an end result.

I read on the Lizard skin site that theirs can be painted over too.


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