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argonaut 06-07-2015 03:38 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Well, either the paint is crappy, or more likely there was some n00b user error. The paint hasn't hardened completely. I think it is because I painted on a cool afternoon an then it never really got warm all week. Anyway the paint is still a little "soft". Who knows if it will finish curing and harden up, but I'm going to use them anyway and see how it goes.

I also rebuilt a set of door hinges. Glad I saved a lot of them because it took 2 sets to get four good hinges that I could press the pins out of without damaging them. After I pressed the pins out image my surprise to find out that the original hinge pins are plastic!!! I think these are the only plastic parts on these old pickups. No wonder so many hinges are loosey goosey. I put bronze bushings and new pins in so now I'm ready to swap on the doors (hopefully) next weekend.

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2001.jpg

argonaut 06-23-2015 01:01 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Got the driver side door and fender mounted up tonight. Looks pretty good, at least in the dusk :) Better than the funky dark blue anyway. Here's a comparison:

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2001.jpg

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2002.jpg

These doors aren't perfect. They have rust in the bottoms, but they're no worse than the old ones. Plus the interior has a nice fawn patina to match the rest of the inside. Cool!

And let me tell you, it is SO MUCH EASIER to align the doors with the rebuilt hinges. No more slop.

Hopefully I'll have time to do the passenger side tomorrow. Then pull the three cowl pieces and the grill surround on Wednesday for paint.

'63GENIII 06-23-2015 01:22 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Plastic pins? Go figure! We're the bronze bushings and steel pins a rebuild kit or did you come up with that? I can't wait for the day that my doors are aligned so they just close right. Nice work Jason. The paint looks awesome too!

argonaut 06-23-2015 01:33 AM

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Yeah, those plastic bushings were a horrible design. I got the idea after I rebuilt the bushings in my 98 GMC (which I've since sold). I got the hinge rebuild kits from either Classic Industries or Trucks Shop, I can't remember which. I used my little harbor freight 12 ton press to push the old pins out and new ones in. Then I cut off the extra length with a cutoff wheel. A few of the pins were rusted to the hinges pretty badly, and there isn't much surface around the pin to support it without tilting. So I abandoned those since I had plenty of extras.

vectorit 06-23-2015 09:44 AM

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Looks great!

deejaaa1 06-23-2015 08:14 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
i see you asked about this and no one responded so i had a minute in Paint and came up with this:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...pseousnpbi.jpg
same fender opening, front and rear.

deejaaa1 06-23-2015 09:58 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deejaaa1 (Post 7219326)
i see you asked about this and no one responded so i had a minute in Paint and came up with this:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...pseousnpbi.jpg
same fender opening, front and rear.

i just reread my post and the pic didn't show. might not have enough post yet.
edit, weird, i see it now.

argonaut 06-24-2015 12:12 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Bolted up the passenger side door and fender tonight. So far so good. Need to put the all the window stuff in them when I have time.

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2001.jpg

The gaps between fenders and doors suck. gets wider at the bottom. I think I may need to through a shim under the front cab mounts, maybe a 3/16" thick piece of plate. Or alternatively bring the front down just a bit at the radiator support. What do you think?

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2002.jpg

argonaut 06-24-2015 12:14 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deejaaa1 (Post 7219326)
i see you asked about this and no one responded so i had a minute in Paint and came up with this:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...pseousnpbi.jpg
same fender opening, front and rear.

Hmm, looks a little funky now that I see it. :) Maybe I've just gotten used to the little rear wheel well opening. Thanks for doing that though, deejaaa1, I appreciate it!

argonaut 06-26-2015 02:30 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Got a few more parts painted. Figured out how to control the spray speed and "weight" a little better to not get so much orange peel. My last can did run out early but i got everything at least covered. I'm pretty confident that if I had a real compressor and a decent gun that I could do a pretty legit paint job!

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2001.jpg

A few spots did get some weird bubbles in them. Not sure why. Maybe I was laying it on too heavy? Or maybe just the crappy rattle cans. Anyway, its good enough for this Big Ugly beast.

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2002.jpg

I'll let these rest for a day or so and then bolt 'em up on Saturday morning. Now it'll be down to only three colors!

argonaut 06-26-2015 02:50 AM

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Took a couple pics of my front hitch while I have the front sheet metal off.
The rear hitch is pretty much the same but with longer side rails to handle larger moments from heavier tongue loads.

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...h%20-%2001.jpg

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...h%20-%2002.jpg

argonaut 06-27-2015 02:20 AM

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Down to only three different body colors!

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...t%20-%2002.jpg

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...t%20-%2001.jpg

ryanroo 06-27-2015 10:02 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
such an awesome looking truck! i am partial to the green myself

derail 06-30-2015 09:16 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Saw your rig at the show. Looked awesome! One of my favorites for sure.

'63GENIII 06-30-2015 11:16 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Ok Jason.... I gotta ask. You may have posted it before but what kind of front axle are you running? Is that a Dodge with those hub locks? or am I missing the selector part in the pics? They look cool. How do they work?

argonaut 07-04-2015 10:20 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Chris, it's a chevy, big hub, dana 44. The plastic Spicer hub selectors were cracked when I got it and I tried to repair then by epoxying in steel sleeves. Apparently one failed so I just pulled them off and bolted a pair of hub flanges on. So the front hubs are always locked in, and I haven't noticed any difference in fuel mileage.

I did recently buy some ridiculously priced replacement blue Spicer lockouts. I need to disassemble, lubricate and install them.

'63GENIII 07-04-2015 10:58 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
They look slick Jason. I have no idea what mine are out of. I thought they were Chevy, maybe Mopar. Just got a set of the Warn premiums. We will see how they work. Yours look killar

61K10 07-07-2015 01:05 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Looking good Jason! It's tough to paint big areas with a R/can. hell it tough with a spray gun. be careful if color sanding, you might rub through. For some reason i like the color lol! really only a little different shade than mine.

Do you know the difference in caster on an C/K axle and a newer O/k axle? or just the specs. My steering is still loose feeling after i reduced pump pressure even though it's better. maybe need some more caster in the ft axle. Read some good and bad things of wedges. anyway your tk is looking good.

Kimble

rusty76 07-26-2015 07:35 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
I need to be watching this one for sure.

argonaut 07-27-2015 01:49 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 61K10 (Post 7233314)
Looking good Jason! It's tough to paint big areas with a R/can. hell it tough with a spray gun. be careful if color sanding, you might rub through. For some reason i like the color lol! really only a little different shade than mine.

Do you know the difference in caster on an C/K axle and a newer O/k axle? or just the specs. My steering is still loose feeling after i reduced pump pressure even though it's better. maybe need some more caster in the ft axle. Read some good and bad things of wedges. anyway your tk is looking good.

Kimble

Kimble,
I set my caster to 6* (I think) using steel shims. I think they were 4* shims. I used a pair of shims on each spring, one below and one on top to make sure that the u-bolt plate stayed square to the spring pad on the axle. It might have been only 4* of caster, I can't remember exactly but I'm sure I have it written down somewhere.

What do you mean by "loose" steering? I put a newer model PS pump on my mom's 64 and man that steering is SUPER TOUCHY, but still driveable. Anyway that is a 2wd so not exactly a good comparison. Are you thinking the "looseness" is because you don't have enough caster??

61K10 08-01-2015 12:34 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Jason--It just has little feel to it, easy to turn even while stopped. when i put in the 3.31's i will get some 4* shims.

argonaut 08-05-2015 12:57 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 61K10 (Post 7260398)
Jason--It just has little feel to it, easy to turn even while stopped. when i put in the 3.31's i will get some 4* shims.

Kimble, park the truck on a flat surface and put an angle finder on the bottom of the lower ball joint. Then compare that to the angle of the level of the ground and you'll have your static caster angle. Then at least you'll know where you stand. I just use a cheap angle finder from harbor freight.

61K10 08-06-2015 12:55 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
put my angle finder on the bottom of the knuckle bearing pin thing with the 4 bolts (don't get old lol) anyway it shows 3*

argonaut 08-07-2015 02:44 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Looks like you might be good with only a 2* shim. You don't want to get your pinion pointed down any further than you have to.

argonaut 08-07-2015 02:54 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Put some big black lug nuts on today.

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2001.jpg

http://jase-ace.com/public/photo/196...s%20-%2003.jpg

I wouldn't exactly call it progress, but at least its something. :D

61K10 08-07-2015 12:25 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
looks good---now paint your hubs lol.

MTCK 08-07-2015 12:39 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Looks tough! Nice work.

vectorit 08-07-2015 02:32 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Looks like you got your hub selectors in

RANDY COX 08-07-2015 08:26 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Big Ugly is lookin good, I believe that the color of your bed is the original color of the bed that's on my truck, at the front panel that's against the cab is peeling and looks like that same color blue.... your truck looks like a Beast and that's a good thing.....Your fenders and door looks good...where you painted them.....Of course I like the sea-horse too, I miss my 70 Burb 4x4... Here's a picture of it now when I had it it was 1/2 ton....
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...pswmweg8fw.jpg
http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2ghgy74.jpg
I'd say it's a beast now... It was factory 250 six 3spd 4x4 less than 1,000 were made with this combo, I wished I could have kept that one....Plain Jane version no power nothing...
I added power-steering and upgraded to HEI... had 33's with 4" lift...

'63GENIII 08-07-2015 09:20 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Don't want to be the guy getting off topic but that Burb is pretty sick Randy! Wonder if I could con the wife out of her Denali to get something like that!

argonaut 08-08-2015 02:00 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Agreed, that is a sweet suburban! I love that 70 grill!
I know how you feel about the one that got away...I wish I never sold my 72 blazer. What a fool I was!

RANDY COX 08-08-2015 06:41 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Jason I also had a 72 Blazer with 33s and 4" lift. Right before I sold it I had just put 35s on it pro~comp all terrain... Talk about how much bigger a 35 compared to 33s wow...I think we've all had ones we wished we had back...
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61K10 08-08-2015 12:35 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
this is getting weird guy's----I had a 72 Blazer also-----------

'63GENIII 08-08-2015 01:10 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 61K10 (Post 7267428)
this is getting weird guy's----I had a 72 Blazer also-----------



Lol, so did I.

RANDY COX 08-08-2015 08:30 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
The Twilight Zone........

argonaut 08-08-2015 08:39 PM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
So this is what everyone does after the loss of a first gen blazer... they buy and build a 60-66 K10!

'63GENIII 08-09-2015 01:02 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
I guess this makes us a former owner of a 72 Blazer support group? That is kinda weird.

argonaut 08-09-2015 01:06 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Come on man! I need your support! I can't get through this 12 step program without you guys!

'63GENIII 08-09-2015 01:24 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
My name is Chris and I like 60 - 66 Chevy 4x4 trucks......

RANDY COX 08-09-2015 08:20 AM

Re: 66 4x4 my sons new project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by '63GENIII (Post 7268009)
My name is Chris and I like 60 - 66 Chevy 4x4 trucks......

LOL,, Hi my name is Randy, Anywho I guess it started when I was looking at 4x4 trucks over on stovebolt.com. I would have loved to had a 56-57 Napco but there a rare piece and MO money So I thought the 60-66 trucks and burbs looked KOOL 4x4 of course then it was on. I saw one on the ole C/L and then it was on, but it's not a factory 4x4, it was still a 4x4. Oh one more thing it didn't help any when I was looking at your alls builds. I think the first builder I got interested in was Oklahomerduner Rock Tonka's son's truck, Then it was Jason's truck and then Rock Tonka's 58 truck and their Burb, then it was 61K10's build and then 63GenIII.. There are other's but you's guys are my favorite...When I find pictures of all my old rides I'll post them over on my build page so's I won't be taking up Jason's space on his build...:chevy:


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