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Now for a crowned jewel of a GMC. It leaves me struck in total awe. |
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Cracker box with biscuits on
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Put a bunch of miles on this 1981 C70 back in the day. 8.2 Detroit turbo and a 5 speed Allison automatic. Not exactly a powerhouse, lol. Doesn't look this nice anymore, unfortunately. Trying to decide what to do with it.
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Handsome tandem
I think this one is a '66 |
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Factory stock
Not so stock And a great hay hauler |
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Here’s two I got a few years ago. A 1965 gmc 5000 (not sure) with a toro flo diesel and a 1964 gmc b7000 twin stick winch truck. Both have been in the family for a long time.
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The '65 is most likely a 5000. They didn't put a Toro-Flow in a 6500.
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Is that straight pipes on the Toroflow? What does that sound like?
And welcome to the board! You have a couple cool GMCs |
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The 7000 has a Detroit 6-71 and the toro flo is not straight piped.
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My cousin was dragging the 7000 around and it accidentally pull started and hit the loader, it sheared a piece right off the pipe bumper and wrecked the passenger side fender and hood.
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Wow, he got pretty lucky. I will post a video of the toro flo next time I get it going.
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I wondered if that's what it had. I don't think I'd want to show off a Toroflo by running straight pipes.
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That’s what this one has, the horizontal mufflers in the frame.
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I would love to hear one with Straight Pipes, lol.
Speaking of loud, my 478 had what I believe were factory type straight thru's. Duals, of course. One day the pipe broke open before one of the mufflers. I can just imagine it with straights, lol. |
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I'd like to hear it, but wouldn't want to be running it that way very long
I'd like to see a picture of that Toroflow emblem up close. That's a rare item right there Has this one been shown yet? |
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That truck sure is a beauty. A '64 and if it has a 409, it would be a C-80.
Here are some pictures of Emblems from Jolly's site, including the Toro Flow: http://6066gmcguy.com/emblem.html My '67 7500 with the 6V-53 still had the Toro Flow Emblems on the butterfly hood. It was what it once had before it got converted. |
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Great looking '64 tractor, thanks for sharing special-K. IMO, these Chevies look best when they are correctly painted, especially the front end, as this one is. Hard to say if it's an 80 or a 60H model, these trucks require close photos of the emblems to tell. The Toro Flo is quite an engine, GM attempt to get a diesel to the medium duty market without a premium price tag.
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As much as I like the Toro Flow, it did not have the best record. Most owners had complaints about them, right down to some saying they should never have been converted from the gas engine. Same with my '67. As nice as the truck was, by the time I got it, it was long gone. I sure didn't mind the 6V-53 that replaced it though.
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You could make a pretty good case that GMC intended the V-6 to be either gas or diesel almost from the beginning. From what I understand, the V-6 family was intended to replace all the GMC built straight 6 gasoline engines along with the Pontiac and Oldsmobile V-8's that GMC was using the late 50's. Concurrently there was another program to develop a 4 cycle mid-range diesel engine, and at some point it merged into the V-6 program. The result was the Toro-Flow. Very true the Toro-Flow had problems (particularly the early versions) but so did most of the other big bore, short stroke mid-range diesels of the era, like the Cummins V-6 and '555' V-8. We could have a pretty good discussion about what was wrong (and right!) with the Toro-Flow. I may have mentioned in the past that I volunteer at a railroad museum, and we have a functioning D478 Toro-Flow in a bus. I'll post more about my experiences and what I have learned over the years about these oddball diesels in the next few days.
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The thing that puzzles me about a Diesel in a '60 or newer GMC Conventional is their choice. The Detroit was the engine of choice in a GMC. Yet, the only way to get a Detroit in these trucks was to buy a Chevrolet (offered later on in the years of the '60-'66 trucks) In my opinion, they should have offered a 4-Cylinder Detroit in them from the beginning.
When I was driving my '62 6500 with the 478 Gas, there was a Chevy C-50 or C-60 in our same neighborhood at the same time. It was about a '65. It made me feel I had the lesser of the two, lol. |
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I'm not sure the exact year on this one. Mid '20s I think. Maybe first year
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