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G-Ring 01-30-2010 04:39 PM

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Any word on tie rods? AutoZone has a set but they are Duralasts. Did you call Tuckers or that other place...Premier I think.

highperf4x4 01-30-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 70stroker (Post 3768640)
highperf he also said hes raising the rear up about a inch.. it oughta be enough after that.

Yeah maybe so. I'll keep my fingers crossed! :lol:

vegaschevy 01-30-2010 07:37 PM

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Carquest stocks all Moog Tie rods. Their "house" brand is all Moog stuff, not cause some moron told you but because it also says on the box.

Anyways I returned my Moog stuff to Checkers, found some in stock at Carquest and got them.

Got home and got back to work on the truck... and guess what she is done!!! Well, for now... back on the road. Wont be driven until Monday after an alignment though.

Well I could blab and blab but you all want to see pics. Im waiting on Nate from Porterbuilt to get me my other piece I need to raise the rear an inch. Hopefully he comes through soon. I need that inch.

The rear seems way more "unlevel" then it is as the upper white/blue line slopes downhill compared to the body lines....

Well here you go

All steering cross shafts, and ball joints are Moog

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butternut1972 01-30-2010 08:31 PM

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Looks good. I think it could a touch lower in the front, Just my .02. wheels look really good.

Normy71 01-30-2010 08:40 PM

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Looks Good
Just wondering about your tie rod connections to the center link, should they not be on the back side of the center link? not the front? or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

ripdog28 01-30-2010 09:12 PM

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If you were rolling through South Central LA that stance would be sick. But your not their so FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lolife99 01-30-2010 10:16 PM

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Like Normy71 said,... the center link is on backwards. You need to swap it "end for end" so the inner tie rods will connect on the back side of the centerlink.
Member Mondo had this problem and it eventually broke the inner tie rod due to contact with the center link.
The ends of the centerlink should point forward, not backwards.

Otherwise looks killer.

camokid 01-30-2010 10:38 PM

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looks good.....but I think it needs to drop in the front a little more or bring the back up a little...(.I like the lower in the front a little better:))

Keep it up...
Jeff

70stroker 01-30-2010 10:41 PM

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ya do agree on the center link.

however i think jack the rear up a inch and maybe go a little lower on the front. But man those wheels look good.

Your for sure gonna need to get a exshaust setup on that now.

72BlckButy 01-30-2010 10:49 PM

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Lookin' good!

CheyenneShop 01-30-2010 11:07 PM

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Once you get that stance figured out - Watch Out:ito:

I wonder if just the 1" raise in the back is going to be enough???

It looks like you have a bit of room in the front to drop her some more. Do you? Keep us posted, maybe once you get your part from Nate it will be where you want her! Looking good.

highperf4x4 01-30-2010 11:09 PM

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I'm voting on "raising the rear" about 2" and PAINT THOSE DRUMS!


Did you hit that muffler coming off the driveway? :lol:

vegaschevy 01-31-2010 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Normy71 (Post 3769199)
Looks Good
Just wondering about your tie rod connections to the center link, should they not be on the back side of the center link? not the front? or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3769393)
Like Normy71 said,... the center link is on backwards. You need to swap it "end for end" so the inner tie rods will connect on the back side of the centerlink.
Member Mondo had this problem and it eventually broke the inner tie rod due to contact with the center link.
The ends of the centerlink should point forward, not backwards.

Otherwise looks killer.

I thought the same thing on the center link. but I really saw no way of anything fitting the other way around. The tie rods seemed to hit the crossmember when put the other way around.

I guess Ill have to look at it again

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Originally Posted by highperf4x4 (Post 3769550)
I'm voting on "raising the rear" about 2" and PAINT THOSE DRUMS!


Did you hit that muffler coming off the driveway? :lol:

Ya, its a 4.5" drop in front which his what everyone does with this tire size. mine for some reason seems a tad high still.

the muffler was to put something on after doing the rear suspension as the muffler had to be cut off. So it works for now!!!

chevy_mike 01-31-2010 01:56 AM

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Yep, centerlink on backwards. Here is a pic of mine after the rebuild.

http://gallery.lisaandmike.org/album...k/PICT5113.jpg

I found I had to rotate the centerlink side to side to fit the tie rods on and they are close but about a 1/4" away from the crossmember when centered. As you move left or right, the centerlink moves away from the crossmember. That is also why the inner tie rods have the grease fittings on the end and not the back like the outer ones.

Looking good!!!! I'll have to come by next time I'm in Vegas.

vegaschevy 01-31-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike (Post 3769915)
Yep, centerlink on backwards. Here is a pic of mine after the rebuild.

http://gallery.lisaandmike.org/album...k/PICT5113.jpg

I found I had to rotate the centerlink side to side to fit the tie rods on and they are close but about a 1/4" away from the crossmember when centered. As you move left or right, the centerlink moves away from the crossmember. That is also why the inner tie rods have the grease fittings on the end and not the back like the outer ones.

Looking good!!!! I'll have to come by next time I'm in Vegas.

Ill switch it around tomorrow. I tried and tried an it seemed like nothing was going on with it the other way around. I was certain it went this way. So I was like maybe it goes the other way and it mounted right up. Could not find any pics on the board when I looked...

Time to remove cotter keys and get it switched... lol

CheyenneShop 02-01-2010 12:07 AM

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Vegas - I needed to load some concrete up into the 68' today & I thought of you!:lol:

lolife99 02-01-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theCheyenneShop (Post 3772024)
Vegas - I needed to load some concrete up into the 68' today & I thought of you!:lol:

Man Cheyenne,...
is that '68 for sale?

nuke1 02-01-2010 12:16 AM

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Looks killer , losve the new ride height.

CheyenneShop 02-01-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3772048)
Man Cheyenne,...
is that '68 for sale?

PM'd ya

highperf4x4 02-01-2010 01:24 AM

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Vegas did you get the steering straightened out today? :D

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theCheyenneShop (Post 3772024)
Vegas - I needed to load some concrete up into the 68' today & I thought of you!:lol:

This made me crack up!!! HAHAHA:lol:

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by highperf4x4 (Post 3772212)
Vegas did you get the steering straightened out today? :D

no, I got out of work and went to breakfast that lasted till noon. sitting around like that all morning after working all night pretty much makes me ready for bed. LOL

Tomorrow I will fix the steering and I am also thinking about remving the front springs and removing about 3/4 of a coil back towards the end of the notch. Im not sure this will remove much height but maybe 3/4" maybe... anyone know?

hopefully I get my piece from Porter soon as it is I think I am rubbing to much to drive it.

unless anyone has some 4" drop springs they want to trade for 5" drop springs as i have 5" in there now

lolife99 02-01-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vegaschevy (Post 3772381)
no, I got out of work and went to breakfast that lasted till noon. sitting around like that all morning after working all night pretty much makes me ready for bed. LOL

Tomorrow I will fix the steering and I am also thinking about remving the front springs and removing about 3/4 of a coil back towards the end of the notch. Im not sure this will remove much height but maybe 3/4" maybe... anyone know?
hopefully I get my piece from Porter soon as it is I think I am rubbing to much to drive it.

unless anyone has some 4" drop springs they want to trade for 5" drop springs as i have 5" in there now


1/2 COIL = 1" of drop.

I would start with 1/2 coil first.
Bolt it back together without shocks and set it on the ground.
Just make sure the top of the spring is in the spring pocket.
Let the bottom go wherever it goes.

lolife99 02-01-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vegaschevy (Post 3772381)
no, I got out of work and went to breakfast that lasted till noon. sitting around like that all morning after working all night pretty much makes me ready for bed. LOL

Tomorrow I will fix the steering and I am also thinking about remving the front springs and removing about 3/4 of a coil back towards the end of the notch. Im not sure this will remove much height but maybe 3/4" maybe... anyone know?

hopefully I get my piece from Porter soon as it is I think I am rubbing to much to drive it.

unless anyone has some 4" drop springs they want to trade for 5" drop springs as i have 5" in there now

What exactly is rubbing?
Too much backspace on the wheels?
Do you have the 2" drop or 3" drop on your Porterbuilt trailing arms?

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3772480)
What exactly is rubbing?
Too much backspace on the wheels?
Do you have the 2" drop or 3" drop on your Porterbuilt trailing arms?

All the arms as far as I know are identical. The difference in the drop comes with a spacer provided for on top of the coil for the 2" drop and 3" drop you just use the arms no spacer for the coil.

I currently have 3 extra" of drop along with a 5" drop spring. I need to be around 7"

With my tire combo it is perfectly centered in the wheel well however it will still touch both sides of the tub under load.

im going to cut just over 1/2 coil off today on the front to get it where I want it I hope and then ill raise the rear to get clearence

lolife99 02-01-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vegaschevy (Post 3772735)
All the arms as far as I know are identical. The difference in the drop comes with a spacer provided for on top of the coil for the 2" drop and 3" drop you just use the arms no spacer for the coil.

I currently have 3 extra" of drop along with a 5" drop spring. I need to be around 7"

With my tire combo it is perfectly centered in the wheel well however it will still touch both sides of the tub under load.

im going to cut just over 1/2 coil off today on the front to get it where I want it I hope and then ill raise the rear to get clearence

I have a set of Nates trailing arms that are only 2" drop.
Maybe he's making only 3" drop arms now. (And using a spacer as an option).
3" is too much for scrub line issues with 15" wheels. That why I order just the 2" drop.

highperf4x4 02-01-2010 01:32 PM

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That's what I was afraid of.

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3772749)
I have a set of Nates trailing arms that are only 2" drop.
Maybe he's making only 3" drop arms now. (And using a spacer as an option).
3" is too much for scrub line issues with 15" wheels. That why I order just the 2" drop.

Ya I dont know. Maybe he sold me the wrong ones and has a fix, or maybe hes just making one size and spacing for the extra, which either way works. I PMd him a few days ago and still have not heard back.

I need to get the rear up at least an inch though. And I need ot get the front down I think about an inch as well.

SCOTI 02-01-2010 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3772749)
I have a set of Nates trailing arms that are only 2" drop.
Maybe he's making only 3" drop arms now. (And using a spacer as an option).
3" is too much for scrub line issues with 15" wheels. That why I order just the 2" drop.

I believe this is correct.

I installed mine on my chassis & realized they were the 3" units & not the 2" I thought I was getting. I checked the scrub-line concern & it was flush w/the lip of a 15" wheel as measured from the lowest portion of the truck arm. The 3" shock brackets were definitely below scrub for a 15" wheel. After conversing w/Nate, he might just be offering the one arm, spacing the spring for the drop difference, & using the shorter 2" shock bracket.

Check w/him to be 100% accurate though ;) .

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 3773006)
I believe this is correct.

I installed mine on my chassis & realized they were the 3" units & not the 2" I thought I was getting. I checked the scrub-line concern & it was flush w/the lip of a 15" wheel as measured from the lowest portion of the truck arm. The 3" shock brackets were definitely below scrub for a 15" wheel. After conversing w/Nate, he might just be offering the one arm, spacing the spring for the drop difference, & using the shorter 2" shock bracket.

Check w/him to be 100% accurate though ;) .

crap, i wonder what rear shock brackets I have then... Hmmm

Ill have to call him shortly. My rear is just a tad to low.

I left the front springs for now awaiting raising the rear and it may not make the front seem to tall.

Switched all my steering around and the alignment shop is ready to align it tomorrow morning at 9am

big_al_71 02-01-2010 03:48 PM

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I am really loving the rear that low, if you lower the front to match the rear watch out!!!!:metal:

I have a six inch lowering spring from ECE and a 295/40/20 on a 20x10 Coy wheel just like you and mine definetly is not even close to what yours looks like...


Great progress.....

lolife99 02-01-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 3773006)
I believe this is correct.

I installed mine on my chassis & realized they were the 3" units & not the 2" I thought I was getting. I checked the scrub-line concern & it was flush w/the lip of a 15" wheel as measured from the lowest portion of the truck arm. The 3" shock brackets were definitely below scrub for a 15" wheel. After conversing w/Nate, he might just be offering the one arm, spacing the spring for the drop difference, & using the shorter 2" shock bracket.

Check w/him to be 100% accurate though ;) .

Now you've got me second guessing.
I need to look at mine again.
I know that I did order just the 2" drop.

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by big_al_71 (Post 3773095)
I am really loving the rear that low, if you lower the front to match the rear watch out!!!!:metal:

I have a six inch lowering spring from ECE and a 295/40/20 on a 20x10 Coy wheel just like you and mine definetly is not even close to what yours looks like...


Great progress.....

the front is 4.5" dropped. I think it will look fine once I raise the back up another inch. I think it will balance out really nice.

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 06:13 PM

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Went and put 20 miles on the truck today before heading to work at midnight with it. Front seemed very nice the rear is harsh and bottoming out on something.... Cannot wait to get it smoothed out!!

So far everything seemed to be dialed

Smallz72project 02-01-2010 07:52 PM

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Truck is looking amazing! :metal: Glad you were able to get the steering figured out. I did notice in your post regarding the spindle nut that you were concerned about hte castle nut being too far down from the cotter pin hole. I havent taken mine apart in some time, but I wanted to ask...do you have the spindle nut tightened right against the bearing? If my memory serves me, you should have a slotted washer that goes between the bearing and the nut. I have seen too many times bearing just completely descintegrate from this if not caught early on.

lolife99 02-01-2010 08:13 PM

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I have a correction to make,...
Mine are 3" drop.
(which really surprises me).
I measured from the top of the plate, where the rear axle housing rests,... to the top of the 2" tube itself.

I know I asked for 2" drop.
Hmmm,...

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallz72project (Post 3773588)
Truck is looking amazing! :metal: Glad you were able to get the steering figured out. I did notice in your post regarding the spindle nut that you were concerned about hte castle nut being too far down from the cotter pin hole. I havent taken mine apart in some time, but I wanted to ask...do you have the spindle nut tightened right against the bearing? If my memory serves me, you should have a slotted washer that goes between the bearing and the nut. I have seen too many times bearing just completely descintegrate from this if not caught early on.

yes, washer is in there as well. Ill check it in a couple thousand miles and see if it will be a problem.

PBFAB.COM 02-01-2010 08:54 PM

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Let's clear up all the confusion on the arms... The trailing arms themselves ALL have 3" of drop built into them. The differences between the 2" drop and 3" drop arms are:

-The shock brackets are different
-The 2" drop arms come with a cup that goes between the top of the spring and the frame.

Devin-

Your cups will be in the mail tomorrow.

vegaschevy 02-01-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt (Post 3773767)
Let's clear up all the confusion on the arms... The trailing arms themselves ALL have 3" of drop built into them. The differences between the 2" drop and 3" drop arms are:

-The shock brackets are different
-The 2" drop arms come with a cup that goes between the top of the spring and the frame.

Devin-

Your cups will be in the mail tomorrow.

cool, have pics of both styles of shock brackets?

vegaschevy 02-02-2010 06:57 PM

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Trucks all aligned but on the way to work last night it started making a funky noise. Like the carrier bearing has the dust cover spinning loosely and sometimes make a crazy viberation high pitch squealing sound


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