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factorystock 06-13-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 7192757)
If the owners are unfortunately not on this site, ebay photos are the best we can do.

Or, craigslist photos. Thanks for posting this GMC derail:metal:. Perfect addition to this thread! Pictures are worth 1000 words.

RedRoad 06-13-2015 09:02 PM

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It's my understanding that "nub" wheels came later after 66.


Was that for GMC? 64-66 had nub type rims for this style cap which he is looking for

first pic is the type of original 1/2 ton painted clip style cap he has (most vendors list this as a 55-59 cap so I guess it may not be the one you need)

second is the 1/2 ton nub cap he is looking for

third is a clip back side (3/4 ton?)

66Gilbert 06-13-2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by derail (Post 7208628)
Saw this today and thought it was interesting. The ad say 1,780 original miles!

This GMC truck has to be by far the most original truck in existence on this thread if indeed all the information is correct. Can any one confirm that GMC in 1962 painted the rear wheel housings black to match the wood on the bed floor?

Classic v6 GMC's 06-13-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by derail (Post 7208628)
Saw this today and thought it was interesting. The ad say 1,780 original miles!
http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/5072803915.html

Thank you for posting!!! Look's like it just rolled out of the factory!!! :metal:

66-PMD-GMC 06-14-2015 12:06 PM

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Its a nice truck with an obvios to me repaint... but..I don't believe the milage claim at all..
they'd need to be loaded with undeniable paperwork for me to shell out that kind of money...

factorystock 06-14-2015 01:25 PM

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Can any one confirm that GMC in 1962 painted the rear wheel housings black to match the wood on the bed floor?

Confirmed. If the GMC was built in the Midwest of the United States ( such as Ponitiac, Michigan ) yes, the rear wheel tubs were black, not just '62, '60-'66 also. Oakland and Fremont GMC's were not done this way.

63 Spud 06-14-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC (Post 7209305)
Its a nice truck with an obvios to me repaint... but..I don't believe the milage claim at all..
they'd need to be loaded with undeniable paperwork for me to shell out that kind of money...

I'd have to agree on the repaint. I cant find that color as a stock option for 62 GMC's. Great looking truck though.

66Gilbert 06-14-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 7209384)
Confirmed. If the GMC was built in the Midwest of the United States ( such as Ponitiac, Michigan ) yes, the rear wheel tubs were black, not just '62, '60-'66 also. Oakland and Fremont GMC's were not done this way.

Ok Cool, Thanks factorystock for confirming this. I have not seen this before as I have only owned 64-66 Chevys and all the GMC that I have seen had the wheel housings painted the same color as the main body color.

cericd 06-14-2015 04:44 PM

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Did they use pop rivets for the serial number plates back then? They can be seen in one of the pics. I know the 67-72's use the rosette rivets.

jonzcustomshop 06-14-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cericd (Post 7209561)
Did they use pop rivets for the serial number plates back then? They can be seen in one of the pics. I know the 67-72's use the rosette rivets.

both my 61 and 62 gmc's have the same pop rivets.

cericd 06-14-2015 05:30 PM

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That's good to know. I'm more familiar with the later models. That sure is a beautiful truck.

sodly 06-14-2015 10:05 PM

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Anyone have a 62 GMC paint chart?

Classic v6 GMC's 06-14-2015 10:36 PM

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The color is not on the paint chip but the truck has chalk markings on the firewall. Maybe the color was a special order? Here is a link to a paint chip on ebay. (not mine) http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-1961-19...16176f&vxp=mtr

1963c-10 06-15-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC (Post 7208651)
It's my understanding that "nub" wheels came later after 66.

I have found 3 bump rims dated as far back as 62. I'm not sure when the nub wheels came out, but my guess would be 61-62ish.......

forestb 06-15-2015 12:26 PM

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Is that an original color and if so what is it called?

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Originally Posted by derail (Post 7208628)
Saw this today and thought it was interesting. The ad says 1,780 original miles!
http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/5072803915.html


66-PMD-GMC 06-15-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by forestb (Post 7210500)
Is that an original color and if so what is it called?

It looks like enamel paint... they painted with lacquer back then.. I think the whole thing is made up and the price is something only a nutcase would pay.. I dont buy it

1963c-10 06-15-2015 12:45 PM

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GM did have a gold paint code 927, but doesn't show as a 62 GMC factory option unless special order maybe? The documentation he has shows "gold" on the papers....but I'm no expert.

60-66 06-15-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC (Post 7210508)
It looks like enamel paint... they painted with lacquer back then.. I think the whole thing is made up and the price is something only a nutcase would pay.. I dont buy it

Lacquer was used on cars of the era, ALL 60-66 Chevy and GMCs are factory painted in enamel .It states this in all the Chevy and GMC Data books and literature.

60-66 06-15-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 7210334)
I have found 3 bump rims dated as far back as 62. I'm not sure when the nub wheels came out, but my guess would be 61-62ish.......

On Chevrolet 1/2 ton ,Nub wheels started in 1961 . For GMC the 1960 clip hubcap carried into 1961 so it seems GMC nub wheels started in 1962. The clip wheel though was still used as a 16 and 17.5 wheel in half ton. If 66-PMD-GMC is referring to 8 lug Nub wheels , those started around 1971 with the disc brakes on trucks.

oem4me 06-15-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC (Post 7210508)
I think the whole thing is made up and the price is something only a nutcase would pay.. I dont buy it

I've not seen the truck up close, so it's hard to say. If the whole thing is "made up", it's more like an art forgery than a used car sale. It's also highly illegal to misrepresent in a sale like that, so I kinda think it's legit.
These finds DO exist. These past few months have turned up some remarkable
survivors as far as trucks go. A kind of flood after a drought, it seems.
One man's "nutcase" is another's passion for quality, and there are plenty of passionate collectors with ample funds. For those guys, it's far easier to find money than it is to find an 1800 mile specimen truck.

60-66 06-15-2015 02:19 PM

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Heres a couple other low mile trucks recently found.
32 original miles 1967 GMC http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...light=1967+gmc

4900 original mile 1968 .
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...+custom+camper

factorystock 06-15-2015 06:43 PM

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This '62 is the real deal, very difficult to pull off a restoration equal to the caliber of this '62. About the paint, there were a small percentage of trucks painted with a non standard special order color from the factory, unlike Chevy's, GMC's don't come with color codes stamped on data plates. Hard to put a dollar value on something like a super super low mile vehicle, I can tell you, forum member Astronaut, did a concourse 100 pt. restoration ( back to better than showroom condition) to a mediochre condition '66 F 100 pickup, the cost was over 100K (labor and materials).

Grandpa54 06-15-2015 10:00 PM

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It sure looks like the real deal to me!

60-66 06-16-2015 08:32 AM

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I emailed the owner yesterday and he sent me some pictures to help identify the color. He is also unsure of the color so I sent him this info also.The color number is 9518 Gold, that’s chalk marked under the hood. It’s a GM color widely used in all GM models in 62 with lots of different names for the same paint from Autumn Gold to Fawn Mist , probably some slight variations in color Id guess between models. Look at this chart http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...=Autumn%20Gold On the left you will see letters GBY , click on those letters and you'll find pictures for reference . Here are some detail shots of the truck. Still has assembly line markings on the tires also. Lots of really unique details in these pictures also.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...615_171649.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...615_171407.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...615_171321.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...615_171259.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...al%20owner.jpg

1963c-10 06-16-2015 08:45 AM

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Great looking truck for sure!!!! Real time capsule.

oem4me 06-16-2015 12:04 PM

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I rarely use the smilies, but ... :jdp:

Texas1963 06-16-2015 12:20 PM

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Heres mine. the first 2 are day #2 after wash and that wood under the bed is what was left of the bed. I believe I'm the third owner and this truck has been unmolested all these years. Original radio still turns on but no speaker. Third pic 3/5 spring drop. 4th 1 coil cut up front and painted white walls, rings and lugs. Have been working and spending on this everyday for over a month and love it and love this site.

64jmb 06-19-2015 05:08 PM

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Here is mine. 1962 C10 Custom Cab. It is pretty original for the most part. I cleaned pretty much all the old repaint off with water to the original color. I did change the hood and one fender was changed I think but it was pretty much a one owner. I was told the original owner owned for about 6 months and sold it to the family I got it from and they had it since 1962. All I have been doing is cleaning. It was a real mess. It has been sitting for a while as you can see, but and looks amazing compared to when I got it. It has been a great fun project for my son and I to work on it. Hope to get it running soon. I have not got that far yet.

sodly 08-01-2015 10:59 PM

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Here's a rare bird. How about a 1960 C20 Custom with beautiful, original Klondike Gold over white paint wearing its original Klondike Gold-painted 17.5" wheels (including the seldom seen correct hubcaps) and the exceedingly scarce full side trim.

I was told this truck had 60-some thousand original miles on the clock when it was unceremoniously butchered (IMO) a few years ago to create a "resto-mod". All the original torsion bar suspension, engine, transmission, rear axle and wheels were carelessly yanked and scattered to the four winds. What a cryin' shame! How many time-warp 1960 3/4 ton customs with nice, original paint have you seen lately? Or ever? I've seen.... uuumm, let me think.... one. This one!

I know to each their own but what happened to this truck is just plain shameful. It's fun to look at the "before" pics, though.

64jmb 08-02-2015 12:13 AM

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Very nice truck!

DakotaKid 08-02-2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sodly (Post 7260857)
Here's a rare bird. How about a 1960 C20 Custom with beautiful, original Klondike Gold over white paint wearing its original Klondike Gold-painted 17.5" wheels (including the seldom seen correct hubcaps) and the exceedingly scarce full side trim.

I was told this truck had 60-some thousand original miles on the clock when it was unceremoniously butchered (IMO) a few years ago to create a "resto-mod". All the original torsion bar suspension, engine, transmission, rear axle and wheels were carelessly yanked and scattered to the four winds. What a cryin' shame! How many time-warp 1960 3/4 ton customs with nice, original paint have you seen lately? Or ever? I've seen.... uuumm, let me think.... one. This one!

I know to each their own but what happened to this truck is just plain shameful. It's fun to look at the "before" pics, though.

If this is the same truck ive seen it at Back to the Fifties in Mineapolis...
it is gorgeous. Nicely done, and gets driven quite a bit from the discussion i had with the owner, Hes pretty proud of it, tole me the rear trim is worth $3,000. i just nodded my head and said sure, whatever hahaha.

nice truck though.

all that being said, i bet its getting enjoyed/Used alot more than it would if it was all stock. Just cause its Rare, dosent make it valuable.

oem4me 08-02-2015 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DakotaKid (Post 7260948)
Just cause its Rare, dosent make it valuable.

True, but taking something from rare to partly commonplace means losing the very thing that makes it interesting. No?

factorystock 08-02-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sodly (Post 7260857)
Here's a rare bird. How about a 1960 C20 Custom with beautiful, original Klondike Gold over white paint wearing its original Klondike Gold-painted 17.5" wheels (including the seldom seen correct hubcaps) and the exceedingly scarce full side trim.

It's fun to look at the "before" pics, though.

Thanks for posting the "before" historically correct photos sodly, needless to say, would not be interested in seeing the "after" photos on this thread. Excellent original paint pampered garaged trucks do not come up very often, most originals that you find are faded, rusted as well as banged up. Makes me think of a "time capsule" thread versus a "most original" thread for the future. Any thoughts?

sodly 08-02-2015 10:57 PM

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True, but taking something from rare to partly commonplace means losing the very thing that makes it interesting. No?

Does another 1960 C20 custom this nice and original still exist anywhere? I'm not sure. I haven't seen one. Perhaps this doesn't make it valuable in monetary terms but it is surely priceless in terms of its (former) rarity. Too bad the owner didn't realize what he had. Or didn't care.

I'm with oem4me. In this case it's all about the rarity. Whether it's being "used" or not is irrelevant. In fact, I'd rather see a time capsule truck like that NOT get used any more than what's necessary to keep it in good running order. I would get more enjoyment out of seeing a vehicle like that preserved than I would seeing it get used up and lost forever. There are plenty of lesser examples that can be used regularly or driven daily. Something this unusual deserves to be preserved for posterity. Heck it might've been the best remaining example left on the planet! Still think it should be daily-driven in that case? I don't.

Trucks like this were extremely common in America at one time. But just because they were built in huge numbers doesn't mean they still survive today in huge numbers. A formerly common truck can in fact be very rare indeed.

sodly 08-02-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 7261376)
Thanks for posting the "before" historically correct photos sodly, needless to say, would not be interested in seeing the "after" photos on this thread. Excellent original paint pampered garaged trucks do not come up very often, most originals that you find are faded, rusted as well as banged up. Makes me think of a "time capsule" thread versus a "most original" thread for the future. Any thoughts?

I've always hoped that this thread would gravitate toward a "time capsule" theme, factorystock! Problem is, of course, time capsule trucks are few and far between, as we know.

DakotaKid 08-03-2015 12:12 AM

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I have never been of the mentality to not "Use" a vehicle. be it a multi million dollar ferrari or a Yugo. These vehicles were meant to be used. going to goodwood and seing the rich flog on milliondollar exotic race cars is awesome.

Original stuff is Cool, dont get me wrong. but freaking out about someone "ruining" a vehicle that they own to do what they want with it...

If you want original stuff, go save it. But dont bag on the people that modify stuff. If it wasnt for the aftermarket world the car hobby would be dead. Cause OEM will not produce the parts. Remember that.

My truck is an Original 235 4spd SWB that was delivered in HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT ORANGE. How amny of those were made in 62? I would bet very damn few. but i put the newer suspension in it for driveability, put a 350 in it so it will drive highway speeds. i want to enjoy the pickup. not parade cruise it and have to trailier it everywhere because it wont go 50mph.

I respect the original stuff, its fun to look at. and im glad there are people out there Saving them. but dont hate on those that Modify.

oem4me 08-03-2015 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DakotaKid (Post 7261968)
dont hate on those that Modify.

Not even. Some of the mods showcased on this forum are way cooler than anything stock will ever be ... and with few exceptions, none of these trucks started out as anything other than another mass produced "tool". Cosequently, the overwhelming majority have been subjected to the regular cycle of abuse and repair, both inside and out many times over.
Occasionally though, one makes it out unscathed or even pristine. What was one OF a million, is now one IN a million. In other words, it's rare.
So, when a true "survivor" surfaces only to be treated with indifference, it's a bit sad. It's not a sacrilege. It's not a sin. But it is kind of a waste of what time has spared all these years. Wouldn't you agree?

aerotruk63 08-03-2015 06:41 AM

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It is difficult to title a thread to include all the theory behind it's intention. We all have a tendency to drift from the original theme.
I appreciate more as I mature to see the benefits of preserving the past,and as mentioned, am disappointed when you see for example, a truck that was carefully preserved all the years in it's original state, only to be sold to someone with a different point of view. But then, I don't have the cash to rescue a Gem from the past nor the ability to preserve it as we deem some things should.

AS stated above HATING on those who modify is the same as HATING on those who trailer their vehicle, who use them only in parades, or lock them away preserving their all original status. This thread is not intended for those who modify. It's intention is to get a snapshot of how things actually were. To much hearsay at times on the forum of what and how things were. Guilty to this as well.
Blah! Blah! Blah! do what you want, but, realize someone else is doing the same. Someone on this forum gave some great advise, if you don't like a thread, you don't have to read or participate in it.
I like this thread, for it's original intention.

OEM4ME your actually inaccurate in your statement above, there were not millions produced every year. Each year had some exclusive details not seen in the next or previous. That's part of what this thread is all about. There are only a few members on this forum who appreciate correct facts and figures, and fewer who use spell check and edit.

corvettejim1968 08-03-2015 08:14 AM

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I like this thread for the reference factor. if I want to know how it was factory I come here and do some digging.

oem4me 08-03-2015 10:25 AM

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...ced "tool". Cosequently, the overwh...

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Originally Posted by aerotruk63 (Post 7262095)
...and fewer who use spell check and edit.

Ok Norm, that's funny. Lol.


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