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thanks sid, I thought I was subscribed to your thread, guess Im not. I'll hop over there now.

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10-6 Mon Put seven hours in today, working fast and not taking any breaks. Tried to beat the weather and clock to lay some epoxy, but no dice. bounced around on the two doors and inner fenders.

So Door #2 I welded the inner and outer patches on. Coated all up inside the door with chassis saver. Hard to tell by the pics but I replaced the outer lips of each side of the bottoms. The one piece requires a shrinker, which I don't have yet, so I make it by hand. I added a middle support piece in the door for the outer door skin.

You can see I don't have a sliproll so I used this contraption to bend the outter skin into shape. I welded it up and then bent it to shape on the door. There is much more work than the pics show. all the edges were flanged over just like the factory edges were.

I got door number one body work almost done for primer, got the inners in primer so they don't flash rust until I get epoxy on them. So next weekend I should be doing more body work and shooting some primer. Weather permitting.

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more door pics

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Really nice work 99! Love the creative solution for shaping the bottom of the door. Did you form the flanges over with hammer and dolly?

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99, super nice work on the repairs...Jim

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thanks guys, yeah I just put a few relief cuts in the excess metal and hammered it over. Spent some time caressing it into shape.

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Love the C&C sticker on the inside of the door. Imagine someone opening that up in another 50 years!!

Great determination and fab work. Another great example of proving you don't have to have a lot of fancy equipment to get the job done!

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Great progress! I can relate to your comment "much more work than the pics show".

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49' yeah I put little signatures like that throughout the build! Sid, no doubt pics can't possibly show all the little things that go into the most basic looking session. You look at a car or truck and think, its not big, why does it take hundreds and even thousands of hours to build. Of course having a few nice good tools to help get things done faster sure does make life easier. I'm slowly getting those tools. Problem I have is several garages, so I need doubles of alot of tools or I have to pack it up and move it. Then keeping organized is insane.

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10-11 Hold back on the compliments of the pro paint booth! Gotta deal with what room I got. Finally got these parts in epoxy and then high build. Hoping to get paint on by monday. I got 41 hrs in redoing the doors, inner fenders, stripping, coating and priming these parts. Its put a healthy dent in my expected hours of completion. but... I wanted this done right. I'v gone about as far as I can go with future rust prevention. I'll prolly coat the exterior with something to preserve the patina as well.

I already got a strong idea on another build which sux, cause I got a few lined up. but I have the parts laying around and I want to put them to use. its a 1 piece windshield 5 window cab and its crusty. I think I'm gonna paint it, bag it and EFI it. but gotta finish this 49' first.

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99, good to get stuff in epoxy and primer, then you don't have to worry about rust coming back. Looks good...Jim

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thanks jim, yeah I love epoxy. Oh I'll be installing bear claws possibly next weekend as well, they are showing up but not sure if I'll get them in or not. My goal was to do that this weekend bf I even did primer, I sure as heck hate to do it after paint, but I'd rather get paint laid before it gets too cold. thats why I'm rushing to get all this stuff ready rather than putting cab on and getting to things that will make the truck move on its own.

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Looks good 99. I have some parts to get epoxy on too. Does the epoxy take longer to dry when the weather gets colder or ?

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Looks good 99...racing to beat the weather. Sounds like you have another good build planned out too!

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thanks guys, SID I believe the min temp on spraying probably anything is 65 deg. My first run with the epoxy was a year or so ago on a fender I fixed for another project I'm doing, I got the room up to almost 60deg and it sprayed really good. I think the colder it gets yeah it will def effect the adhesion and curing. the SPI I use has a recoat time of 7days. thats the longest I'v seen for an epoxy, so I think the temp is even more critical. hey how much was your back cab skin to ship???? might just get a new one for this 5 window cab.

AD, I got a 52' I'm painting for myself, a 53' belair for the fam that needs done. Both are huge projects. I got a 54' I gotta do for a guy and I know there has been another build I wanted to do in between all of these and sell. So since I'v had the 5 window cab for so long I figure I can work on it over the winter, maybe do up the suspension. Its all just a new plan in my head, just gonna be alot of bouncing around. Here is the cab, its rough, dash is rough so I will be a good reason to do a dash swap. also doing a 47-53 grille

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Hey Henry, the dash in my 49 cab is in perfect shape! It's coming out so if you or anyone wants it let me know.

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10-13 Mon. Wrapping up some more paint. So instead of doing a contrast with the gold and white with a black, I went with a metallic rootbeer. Pretty happy so far, so once its all together I guess I'll know if I need to make any changes. The wheel I want white, the last pic you can see is the steering column, so hopefully that looks good together.

The doors, windshield trim and headliner trim is rootbeer. I still have to touch up some door jams as I'll be installing bear claws. Hopefully I don't ruin all my hard work. I got 45 hrs in doors, trims and inner fenders. Thats metal work to paint.

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couple more. I'm thinking a lighter wood stain and the darker trim will be cool.
I have the bottom door hinge cover painted and the window trim, just no pics yet. I'll be making a vinyl door panel for the factory location.

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Looks awesome 99!

I got my back cab panel from LMC. Not sure on shipping as I spent over $1000 in order to get free shipping.

Reason I ask about temp and paint is I have to get my frame in epoxy and paint inside the frame rails before I box it in. Wondering if it's that critical for inside the frame rails. Maybe I should ask in the paint section.

Keep up the good work.

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99, looks great, nice job...Jim

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sid, Id just get some heat in the garage and heat up the frame, just cause its 60 in the room doesn't mean the metal is. You could just coat the inside frame rails with some chassis saver/por15 then box it in. I find it easier to just brush sections on, than to set up for spraying and then cleaning it all up. If you have your frame all stripped and ready to coat then spraying would be much faster.

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99 looking very good. I like the contrast on the steering wheel. Man, I need to learn to paint...

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AD thanks hopefully this all comes together well, may have to repaint a few things if I don't like how it jives with the rest of the interior. the seat and door panels will really set it off, so I got to nail those.

as for paint, this is only a few times of me painting. not including primer. its just single stage metallic, which metallics are a bit harder to work with. its like anything else with cars, just gotta get in there in do it once you know the basics. then you can fine tune. I want to build a pain booth though, its not ideal painting in the area you do everything in. my garage is 18x24 so its a tight squeeze and overspray lays everywhere.

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Awesome job. Love the paint colors. I will be watching for pics of your bear claw install as I am trying to decide on that as well for mine too.

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10-20 mon Didn't get as much work in this weekend. Had to do alot of weatherizing. Anyway, jumped back onto the frame to button some things up. Should have cab on next weekend. Long over due! I got rotors, redid some air line location up front, still not final. Got exhaust on. Driverside is a real pain because the header comes down so much farther than the pass side. I just have some clamps on them as opposed to getting stainless wire to weld it on. I like the fact of removing things in pieces if need be. Still need to run some hangers.

Got rad brace back on, got to get rad hoses for final fit. Started the long overdue shock brackets, hoping to get that done next weekend.

I got bear claws in, I'll get to them and some final paint after I get more done with the drivetrain. I need a driveshaft and to hook up pedals and steering. Ran fuel and brake line. just need to button them up. I got stainless brake hoses for front and real, running all copper nickel line. Fuel is all aluminum with rubber ends. Still have to get sending unit for tank.

ordered up some nice calipers, need brake MC and clutch MC still.

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here's the claws. ebay purchase I was pretty pissed about. got them off a site that said they were johnny law brand (I know prolly nothing special) then they come in autoloc packaging. I never wanted autoloc and really didn't want to support them. but the price was hard to beat, so if they don't work out I can always replace them, no big deal. I just got the whole kit even though I'm fully capable of fabbing up my own, I just really need to start shaving off some time since I have a crap ton of work still to do. I really am cutting it close to have this truck done by end of Jan for the pittsburgh autorama. I got these bc they are the locking style. I want to try to incorporate my door handles with these.

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99, chassis looks great, nice job. Sorry about the latches, from what I know Johnny Law is part of Hoffman group (autoloc). I've never had any luck with there stuff, and had to replace everything. Hope you have better luck...Jim

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thanks jim, yeah lesson learned. I'll steer clear of them as well.

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I agree 99, chassis is looking good. Nice progress. Hope the latches don't give you problems.

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10-25 Finalized my shock mounts. Should have done it bf I coated frame, but got a head of myself. Anyway, just about everything I looked up on doing shock mounts had sketchy at best descriptions. So I did up this how to, or atleast how I did it. Since you can't read it on here. I'll put it up on my website.

I'm planning on getting cab on tomorrow and working on steering and pedals. Might just make my own brake pedal. Might just order a wilwood clutch. Found a really good driveshaft on ebay, so I'll order that up once I get brakes, cab and clutch hooked up. If I can drive this out of the garage by the 19th of nov, I'd be a happy man. the 19th of november last year is when I got the body off frame and into garage.

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10-25 Sat, got cab back on. bounced around alot today. buttoning things up here and there. Got radiator hoses on. Did up brake line in back, put some clamps on fuel lines. Tossed seat in to set height. It needs lowered by an inch. I'll be getting a nice cover made by december I hope. cut steering shaft to the length I want. Made up this bracket to hold it tight to cab floor. I need some Dshaft and steering knuckles to finish the steering. Then put on the PWS pump and get lines for it.

Hoping to get something started with the pedals. I need to either build the brake pedal or have something to moch up so I can get the booster placement and get it on. I'll have to order clutch pedal most likely.

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99, taking shape and looking super...Jim

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Yeah moving right along really nicely! Looks great.

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Looks kool already!

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This is an opportunity to express my opinion of The Hoffman Group and Johnny Law. Quality of parts sold and Customer Service are both questionable.

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Lv2tri2, no doubt express away. I'v read enough on hoffman to steer clear. I didn't know Johnny Law was apart of them. I think they also are in cahoots with the ebay store I bought the claws off of. I'd have to look them back up. I wasn't happy with them dooping me at all. I'll prolly just get better ones and keep these around for moch ups.

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10-27 Today was one of those days that makes you wonder why ya go through hell to build a friggin truck. I decided to take the brake pedal assembly out of a 95' full size chevy truck I have laying around. Bad idea in the sense that it took me hours to get it out and the ebrake assembly. The brake assembly had about six hidden and very hard to reach spot welds on it. So thats what ate up the time. But, it does fit nice. Its an inch longer than an s10 pedal assembly so it allowed me to mount the booster a tad higher. If you notice on the factory firewall there is a portion where the booster goes, it literally is about a 5x5 area in between the factory beads. So just so happens thats how
big the booster bolt pattern area is on the back, so it fits like a glove.

I think I'll use this ebrake set up, kinda feeling these kind and I think I can make it work pretty easily. but I'll have to get my clutch pedal in first and see how much room I got.

Took some measurements for my steering. These stainless headers where a move I had to make bc the s10 headers just look like crap and get rusty. So I bought these on the notion that I'll make the steering work any way I can. So I'm going to order up some stainless ujoints and DD shaft and I think I can squeeze through the header. If I can't I'll reroute around the header.

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Have had those days too. The brake bracket fits really well and that looks like a straight shot to the steering box. Gonna be nice!

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99, nice job on the brake set-up...Jim

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10-31 Got a couple hours in today. Got CCP big bore s10 calipers. Claim 20% more braking power and slightly lighter than a stock caliper. Got russel stainless brake line up front and back. Got shocks painted.

Got a wilwood clutch pedal, not much to it. Could have made one off these specs to be honest. I think I'll make one and also a brake pedal just to have for moch ups and future builds. it isn't the longest pedal so it mounts a little lower but I think it will look good with the wilwood MC once I get that ordered up. I just ordered my brake MC today and some steering stuff, so I can start on steering next week. Tomorrow I'm doing gas pedal and buttoning up stuff.

Fortunately I have a couple bigger ticket items I'm getting from some suppliers but I'm trading print work for. So I'll be getting the accuair VU4 valve pod and a Rebel wiring harness for a fraction of the costs. So that will really help out with keeping the build going on schedule. Its not always time time thats the issue, go figure.