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protrash64 06-04-2009 11:06 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Did you prime the oil system before dropping in the dizzy? I dont remember if you had mentioned this....

I always just dumped a splash of gas in the carb....make sure you're not staring down the carb when it turns over....(think of 4D's post with the mushroom cloud). It shouldnt take too long to get fuel flowing to the carb.

Ive seen different things on the cam break in. But usually the shortest time was 15 minutes. Good luck!!

joe231 06-04-2009 11:14 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:lol:
yeah I would....

MacAttack 06-04-2009 11:44 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3342978)
Did you prime the oil system before dropping in the dizzy? I dont remember if you had mentioned this....

Yeah - did that on the engine stand. Love that Moroso tool. Cheap insurance. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3342978)
It shouldnt take too long to get fuel flowing to the carb.

Carb bowl is already full - kid held a gas can under the lower fuel pump hose while I gave her a couple of cranks with the remote starter switch - right after primed the oil system. The glass fuel filter filled up quick.

Left the NPT plug at the back of the block a little loose and oil came flowing right out past the threads, but not loose enough to make a mess on the floor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3342978)
Ive seen different things on the cam break in. But usually the shortest time was 15 minutes. Good luck!!

Thanks for the input.

Mac. :chevy:

MacAttack 06-04-2009 11:47 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3342992)
:lol:
yeah I would....

Joe's just a Meanie.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...lue-meanie.jpg

:lol:

jason65 06-04-2009 12:09 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Is it time yet?

MacAttack 06-04-2009 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3343091)
Is it time yet?

:lol:Not even in Japan.

joe231 06-04-2009 12:37 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:haha:
this thread is great :haha:

4dranch 06-04-2009 01:14 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3342972)
Yeah, but if I was video capable - you'd sure as heck watch that on YouTube! :lol:

:haha:

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3343130)
:haha:
this thread is great :haha:

yeah it is....
I use to tune in for the truck info.....
but now I just want to see what little picture Mac posted..:lol:

jason65 06-04-2009 02:53 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Is it time yet? 10:00 am is what? Noon in Ok.

MacAttack 06-04-2009 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3343321)
Is it time yet? 10:00 am is what? Noon in Ok.

Okay - we'll slow the baud rate down a bit for the 'fly-over' states:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3342794)
S a t u r d a y at about 10AM, my time: That's when I'm planning to light her off.

;)

Desert1957 06-04-2009 05:04 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Hey Mac,
Don't forget the pen and paper so you can draft another creative story why you didn't get it running.....LMAO!

I left this thread 2 months ago , just came back to check in and guess what? S.O.S......

Just find it hard to understand some of the reasons , "Had to Re-bend my trans-lines" (2 week delay) , "couldn't find copper line for my oil pressure gauge"..(2 Week delay) and multiple replies about kids,Dogs,Work,Weather..

and ON and ON and ON.....WTF?

Quit being a lilttle Girl , Take the stupid tarp off it , put fuel in it , charge the battery and light that P.O.S. 283 up!!!!

Jesus Christ I could have had that thing running in a friggen Snow Storm by now!

Desert

MacAttack 06-04-2009 05:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert1957 (Post 3343521)
and ON and ON and ON.....WTF?

Quit being a lilttle Girl , Take the stupid tarp off it , put fuel in it , charge the battery and light that P.O.S. 283 up!!!!

Jesus Christ I could have had that thing running in a friggen Snow Storm by now!

:lol::lol::lol:

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:...ilty-puppy.jpg

(wish I could say something - but I can't)

Mac. :chevy:

joe231 06-04-2009 05:42 PM

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:lol:
dunno, but that sounds mean spirited there Desert.....
I'm calling Oprah ad Dr. Phil on you :D

Mac, your pics are killing me over here :haha:

you got a giant cache of those or do you find them online as you need them?

MacAttack 06-04-2009 06:30 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3343585)
Mac, your pics are killing me over here :haha:

you got a giant cache of those or do you find them online as you need them?

The Great and Powerful Oz never reveals his secrets! ;)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...tain769602.jpg

Desert1957 06-04-2009 07:52 PM

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:lol::lol::lol:....

Just Kidding , Trying to relight the spark under Mac.

Desert

Desert1957 06-04-2009 08:33 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:lol::lol::lol:....

Just Kidding , Trying to relight the spark under Mac.

Desert

protrash64 06-04-2009 10:47 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
I hafta agree with Joe on those pics, Mac....I think they're better than the smileys.

shrunken66stroker 06-05-2009 12:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3342860)
True dat. :lol:

But like the guys here at the shop, I should have sold tickets to this event - like when you go to the drags. They all say half the reason they go is to hear the AA fuelers light off and they think, somehow, my starting of this 44 year old pick-up ASAP is going to feed that primal need.

Mac. :chevy:

I enjoy the way my eyes burn from the nitro methane.

MacAttack 06-05-2009 09:00 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker (Post 3344184)
I enjoy the way my eyes burn from the nitro methane.

True enough. I also like watching the the little pebbles moving around on the ground in the pits when the big cars fire off. Unfortunately, what might occur tomorrow morning is a about 7,800 horse power short of what Mr. Force's rig produces.

:smoke:

Desert1957 06-05-2009 12:50 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Hey Mac,
Can we get one of those "Mission Control" countdown clocks? Or maybe just a link off the NASA web page. So everyone can see when to tune in....:lol:

Desert

MacAttack 06-05-2009 01:13 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert1957 (Post 3344712)
Hey Mac, Can we get one of those "Mission Control" countdown clocks?

Like this..........?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...yagr2/610x.jpg

Captainfab 06-05-2009 11:08 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3344744)

For someone who goes thru a lot more trouble than most to take and post pics of their project, you sure seem to find all sorts of cool and interesting pics on the web! :)

TimE 06-06-2009 01:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3345494)
For someone who goes thru a lot more trouble than most to take and post pics of their project, you sure seem to find all sorts of cool and interesting pics on the web! :)

:haha:

Your pics are definitely entertaining Mac.

Desert1957 06-06-2009 07:31 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Mac,

What does the Mission Control clock say?......T minus?????????

Desert

joe231 06-06-2009 08:04 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
IS IT RUNNING YET or IIRY


I know cali is 2 hours behind us....;)

MacAttack 06-06-2009 01:14 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Gas flowing, batteries cranking, HEI hotwired perfectly,

Much Fire From The 2-Barrel!

http://blog.tolien.co.uk/wp-content/...7844905421.jpg

sidthirteen 06-06-2009 01:59 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:thud::thud: Don't worry Mac it's just a "burp"....

joe231 06-06-2009 02:15 PM

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timing off?

dizzy 180* out?

Desert1957 06-07-2009 07:16 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Come on you WINNIE , pic yourself up and try again. One failed no start is not going to buy you 2 more months of posting , Its only worth about the time you stopped to come here and post this. Get your Butt back outside and fire that POS up!:haha:

Desert

shrunken66stroker 06-07-2009 04:12 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
I know you're not just sitting on the couch today Mac. Any rumblings from project slow-mo?

daverod 06-07-2009 05:14 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Slow-mo thats so wrong:lol:

MacAttack 06-08-2009 09:52 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Don’t know what it is guys - stabbed the distributor just like I did with the Chevelle’s crate motor. Just doesn’t want to go. As I’ve stated a couple of times before - I’ve got a single weekly window of two hours on Saturday morning for this stuff, and no matter what we did, or where we moved the HEI - all it did was pop back through the carburator.

We rechecked the harmonic balancer mark with the compression reading on cylinder number one again - and it’s right where it should be (TDC). Because of other employment and family commitments on the weekends - it is what it is and I won’t be able to even look at it again until Saturday.

Personally, I think it’s all the negative karma by some in this forum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert1957 (Post 3347055)
Get your Butt back outside and fire that POS up!:haha:Desert















:lol::lol::lol:

joe231 06-08-2009 09:55 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:lol:

man I have been throwing all the positive karma west that I can manage...maybe it made a wrong turn at Albuquerque ;)

jason65 06-08-2009 10:01 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Have you tried rotateing your plugwires clockwise 1 spot and playing with the timing?

MacAttack 06-08-2009 10:09 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3348991)
Have you tried rotateing your plugwires clockwise 1 spot and playing with the timing?

No, no I haven't Jason. And that sounds most logical. It's either 1 spot off or 180 off (less likely). If it's 180 off - it could be trying to fire on the exhaust stroke(?) That's all I can think of in that regard, and I've heard that from dozens of guys before, but this thing almost sounds like it wants to go - but I just can't crank the distributor over far enough.

Good input buddy.

(not like that other guy)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...0f.jpg%3Fv%3D0

(Buddha's pissed)

Mac. :lol:

joe231 06-08-2009 10:23 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
:lol:

in my experience, with the distributor 180* out it will try to run but will crank over slow and then fast then slow, pop and back fire through the carb, sometimes even blow fire up through the carb too.....doesn't seem to matter how many times I have swapped out distributors I inevitably get the dist 180* out....or the last one I did, I accidentally put my wires on counter-clockwise, it kinda acted the same way then too...I knew it need to be clockwise but for some reason I looked at the cap and put the wires on backwards.:rolleyes:

set it to TDC and just line up the rotor with your number one on the cap, that should get you close enough to run

oh and make sure you got the firing order right ;)

MacAttack 06-08-2009 10:43 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3349025)
oh and make sure you got the firing order right ;)

Yeah - those numbers on the original intake manifold (used again on this motor) were the first thing I checked. It seemed to crank fairly consistently, albeit tight at first (which was expected) and I did get some nice flames out the carb (who needs eyebrows anyway?)

:devil:

I hope I don't have to crank the dizzy half way around though, cause that little square plug's going to be right up against the firewall.

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:...ht_squeeze.jpg

padresag 06-08-2009 11:27 AM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
you have to pull the distr up and turn the shaft 180. just time it back to nbr 1
ron

MacAttack 06-08-2009 12:00 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by padresag (Post 3349130)
you have to pull the distr up and turn the shaft 180. just time it back to nbr 1
ron

Ron, sounds like the easy way to go. TDC #1 cylinder with plug out - to feel the compression stroke, take cap off - to note where the rotor's pointing, un-clamp the HEI body enough to turn the rotor to the proper position, drop the HEI back in, cap back on, plug in and wire back on and light her up, right?

padresag 06-08-2009 12:42 PM

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voom-voom
ron


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