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roll_the_dice 03-20-2019 02:05 PM

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Congratulations....Looking good John...was patiently waiting for pictures of the new truck!

straight6chevyguy 03-20-2019 03:43 PM

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Looks good John.
Thumbs up on the muffler delete!
How does it sound? To loud to quiet or just right?

Johns 66 03-20-2019 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by straight6chevyguy (Post 8491042)
Looks good John.
Thumbs up on the muffler delete!
How does it sound? To loud to quiet or just right?

It sounds really good. doesn't have any drone when cruising around. when you mash on it you can hear it but when cruising I can honestly hear the tires more than the exhaust. Best part was it cost me a whole 30.00. The GM system was 1595.00 plus installation and IMO doesn't sound this good. Not too loud just enough that you know its a truck.

Johns 66 03-20-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by roll_the_dice (Post 8490983)
Congratulations....Looking good John...was patiently waiting for pictures of the new truck!

I love this truck and the tailgate is an amazing piece of engineering.....Ive almost got a 1000 miles on her, 500 from the drive home but honestly think this is one of the better GM trucks I have bought....besides my favorite ole girl.

64RELIC 03-20-2019 07:43 PM

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Funny to think of the 66' coming home from the dealer and getting it's first 1000 miles.

Johns 66 03-25-2019 07:10 PM

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Been a couple of weeks since I posted some updates on ole girl....I have the passenger side door jamb, cowl piece and grill support left and she will be completely down to metal. I have started spreading some filler and sanding it down as you can see.

Also bought some POR 15 in a spray can and POR 15 undercoating. Got the bed wheel wells under coated and POR 15 the underside of the hood....I will scuff it up and get some epoxy on it but wanted to get the underside, especially the edge/lip of the hood. Once I get it sat back down on the bench I will spray POR 15 where the hood latch goes. Still trying to decide what color to paint the front hood openings...Body color or black.

Plan on getting all this , except the cab in epoxy before the end of the week if the weather holds out.

Johns 66 03-25-2019 07:17 PM

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a few more. Still have a few hard to get areas on the door jambs that I need to get but am waiting on that till I get the glass out and sand the glass lip.

I guess the good thing so far is besides a few minor dings that had been filled with filler its not too bad. I did find 3 very small pin holes on the hood lip...I coated them with POR 15 and gonna use some filler and smooth out the underside of the lip but gonna do that after epoxy is on.

Once I have everything in epoxy then I will pit it back together and get things lined up and do panel to panel body work...My hopes are that it comes out looking good.

My poor little die grinder gave out so had to get another and a WHOLE bunch more 2" scotch brite pads for it....but it does the trick for sure

roll_the_dice 03-26-2019 10:35 AM

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You have been BUSY! Everything is starting to take shape...lots of work, but will be worth it in the end.

pdxhall 03-27-2019 05:22 PM

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Nice work John.

Johns 66 03-27-2019 05:33 PM

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Thanks Andy!!

They say that you should learn something new everyday...well in todays episode of "Not a Show Truck/Rust Free Truck" I learned a couple of things...The spray gun I bought was worth every penny and secondly that I have a ways to go on learning how to do body work..lol

I got the hood, hood braces, rear fender wells, both fenders, and both cowl pieces in 2 coats of epoxy primer today....it laid down smooth which I was really pleased with.. I can tell that the rear fenders will need some more sanding to make them look like they should, saw some edges and wasn't too my liking. I did see 2 high spots and 3 low spots on the hood while I was priming so I know I will have a little bit to do on that as well.

After that I started smearing filler on the cab, specifically the cab corners and I "Think" I have them ready for some primer...so the back of the cab should be ready for primer.

Not sure if I started something that Im gonna regret but I also spread some filler on the passenger rocker panel and door jamb. It wasn't replaced and had some dings, plus spot welds etc....and I decided to spread some on the inside lip where the cab fold over to the door jamb. I think it will look good once done...just a lot of sanding..lol.

It will take a couple of posts to get the pics.

Johns 66 03-27-2019 05:36 PM

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A couple more for your viewing pleasure..lol

Johns 66 03-27-2019 05:43 PM

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Now lastly I never knew that there were parts that come off the fender, specifically where the rubber pieces go so before I sprayed things I took these part off....They look pretty messed up so not sure if there are replacements out there or?????

Plus I have to find the little clips that hold this stiff on...don't EVEN have a clue where to get them.

cwcarpenter98 03-27-2019 06:14 PM

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Looking good! Can't wait to see some color on it

Johns 66 03-27-2019 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcarpenter98 (Post 8495892)
Looking good! Can't wait to see some color on it

Thanks Christian...me too but have a ways to go before that.....slowly but surely.

roll_the_dice 03-27-2019 06:25 PM

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Looks like new money!! The hood looks amazing, it all does. I know what you mean about reworking spots though. I have one spot inside my cab I can't get to lay right to save my life....tomorrow will be the 4th rework of one spot! I keep telling myself ...patience is a virtue.

maybe I will win the lottery tonight and have my truck finished....sadly, I would still finish it myself. haha

I am so glad your paint guns are working like you wanted and they should!

aggie91 03-28-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johns 66 (Post 8495875)
Now lastly I never knew that there were parts that come off the fender, specifically where the rubber pieces go so before I sprayed things I took these part off....They look pretty messed up so not sure if there are replacements out there or?????

Plus I have to find the little clips that hold this stiff on...don't EVEN have a clue where to get them.

Here are the clips...

https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-663/

aggie91 03-28-2019 01:31 PM

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Left Fender Seal Mounting Plate:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-651/

Right Fender Seal Mounting Plate:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-652/

Front Fender Upper Rear Support Bracket Left:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-654L/

Front Fender Upper Rear Support Bracket Right:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-654R/

Front Fender Upper Rear Filler Bracket Left:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-653L/

Front Fender Upper Rear Filler Bracket Right:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-653R/

aggie91 03-28-2019 01:34 PM

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Inner Fender Seal: (this is what is also installed on the Upper Rear Support Brackets)
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-729/

Front Fender to Cab Seals:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-614/

Johns 66 03-28-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8496425)

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8496429)
Left Fender Seal Mounting Plate:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-651/

Right Fender Seal Mounting Plate:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-652/

Front Fender Upper Rear Support Bracket Left:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-654L/

Front Fender Upper Rear Support Bracket Right:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-654R/

Front Fender Upper Rear Filler Bracket Left:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-653L/

Front Fender Upper Rear Filler Bracket Right:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...tinfo/37-653R/

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8496432)
Inner Fender Seal: (this is what is also installed on the Upper Rear Support Brackets)
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-729/

Front Fender to Cab Seals:
https://www.classicparts.com/1960-66...ctinfo/37-614/

Man I sure do appreciate that a lot...Thanks so much!!!

Johns 66 03-28-2019 04:06 PM

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Remember when I said you should try to learn something everyday? Well in todays episode of "Notashowtruck/Rustfreetruck" I think I have learned something that no one on the whole board knows.

As we know I bought some NOS Doors because mine had speaker holes and the obligatory rust issues. Well Today I found out that not only are they NOS....BUT they also came with #503 Green paint AND AND they even came with holes for camper mirrors AND AND AND AND of course my favorite....BONDO!!!!!
Yes boys and girls I have the ONLY set of NOS Doors that have paint, pre-drilled for camper mirrors AND BONDO under that black epoxy primer...….. Now please don't be jealous of my doors....I know these are rare birds...LOL Its not funny but at this point I just have to laugh.

My plan was to spread some filler on the passenger door jamb and while it dried I would block the NOS door and hopefully get some epoxy on it...Well as stated above they aren't NOS they are used doors. They are not in bad shape, just not NOS and definitely NOT NOS Prices. Best I can tell is that they had some surface rust and pitting and someone fixed them. Im hoping that the epoxy primer was not an attempt to be dishonest and cover up everything. Besides the camper mirror holes they weren't Fixed because of rusty holes

So spent all day sanding it down to metal, POR 15d where needed, spreading filler where it needed and got it blocked down......I was able to also get the passenger side door jamb to my liking. So it looks like I will do the same to the drivers door...at this point whats one more piece? Then ALL I have left is the front grille support. Its still mounted on the truck but I have sanded what I could ...Mostly the bottom edge is whats left.

I do have a lead on an NOS tailgate from a member on the board and I trust that he wouldn't sell me a used tailgate as NOS....

So enjoy the pics....One thing is for sure...ONCE I do get it all sanded down to metal I will definitely know what is in my truck.

Life is not what happens to you...its how you react!!!!

cwcarpenter98 03-28-2019 09:11 PM

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Dadgum man, I never would have expected that

straight6chevyguy 03-29-2019 02:12 PM

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Sorry man that is not no fun at all getting ripped off like that.
Any way keep up the good work. It's looking real good.

Android04 03-29-2019 02:24 PM

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Man I've been down that road of being ripped off before, never fun.

Keep working hard

Johns 66 03-29-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cwcarpenter98 (Post 8496710)
Dadgum man, I never would have expected that

Quote:

Originally Posted by straight6chevyguy (Post 8497132)
Sorry man that is not no fun at all getting ripped off like that.
Any way keep up the good work. It's looking real good.

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Originally Posted by Android04 (Post 8497140)
Man I've been down that road of being ripped off before, never fun.

Keep working hard

Thanks guys....Guess I should have checked them more but its ok....They were not rusted out just some surface rust....just a good set of used doors. Its all good....just another story to tell about ole girl once she gets all prettied up with new makeup and some new shoes.

Johns 66 03-30-2019 06:36 PM

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Did a little today on ole girl...Got the grille support out and sanded down...NO BONDO YAY!!!!!!

I tried some aircraft stripper I bought from KBS......waste of 45.00 wouldn't take off Rustolem paint but it will make bondo bubble...So back to the die grinder and scotch brite pads....I got it all cleaned up and shot some POR 15 on the backside...hopefully to rust no more....ever.

I then took out the back glass and windshield....This could be the only pllce left that I could be surprised....I am very happy to report besides a little bit of surface rust, both flanges looked great....Will get them cleaned up this week and get some POR 15 on them as well.

Undercoating wasn't too bad...glad I took Scotts suggestion and scraped it first....a lot came off with just a razor blade.

Johns 66 04-01-2019 10:37 PM

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Did a lil piddlin today...as you can see she is backed in.....and you can see my wonderful helper today...My sisters grandson..Kayden….or my Great Nephew...yep....he Loves Trucks.

Anyways got her backed into the garage...where she is gonna be for awhile. After getting everything sanded down to metal and still not really knowing about the drivetrain not running right, and after replacing the torque convertor 3 times I have decided to completely tear her down, take the motor back to the shop that built it...Randy is gonna go back through the tranny just to make sure( I don't think its the tranny, I think the cam is out of time)
Im not gonna take the cab off the frame but gonna take the drivetrain, wiring, interior etc...out. Gonna get the firewall, inner fenders, and radiator support stripped and painted, get the interior sanded down and primed and ready for color.

My hopes are that by the time I get the motor back that I will have the interior painted and wiring started....Just kinda disheartening that the motor has to come back out...but he is either gonna make it run right or give me my money back.

Will get the glass flanges cleaned up and POR 15 in the next day or so......Then get the firewall, inner fenders, and core support primed and painted. I did find a rusted out spot on the core support that I am gonna try and fix...Inner fenders and firewall wont be bad to strip since all its got on it is some rattle can paint.....the ole oven cleaner trick will do wonders...…...

roll_the_dice 04-02-2019 10:06 AM

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Better to get the engine out now and running right than after everything is finished!

Looks like Kayden is a happy camper! Teach em young...love the old trucks!

Johns 66 04-03-2019 05:28 PM

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Lil more epoxy primer and a lil more sanding....I will say the interior is way easier to sand than the outside since it only has one layer of paint..I did find some pitting on the top of the dash near the drivers side and some surface rust on the inside of the windshield flange.....not real sure why or how it got there but some POR 15 will take care of it for sure.

Also learned today that it is a must to remove the steering column cluster out. I also took out the radio and the under dash center speaker....both look to be originals...I will get some pics of them next time Im at the shop.

roll_the_dice 04-03-2019 05:30 PM

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Looks awesome! I think you are getting the hang of it!!!

Is that my new radiator support primed? hahaha

Johns 66 04-03-2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by roll_the_dice (Post 8500232)
Looks awesome! I think you are getting the hang of it!!!

Is that my new radiator support primed? hahaha

Thanks Andy.....I think taking it all down to the metal has helped the look of the primer...my hopes are that they finished product will be better because of it, Gonna start on the cab and get it in primer...I did about half the inside today...mainly piddling around but will get the seat and tank out tomorrow and be able to go full bore on it. besides the small place on the top of the dash and the gunrack holes I don't think I will need much filler....then I get to try my hand at spraying the inside.

cwcarpenter98 04-03-2019 05:44 PM

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Looking great John! Keep up the good work :metal:

Johns 66 04-04-2019 09:26 PM

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Lil More done today.....
Got the seat out and taken apart. Not sure if this was standard or not but there was carpet under all the padding etc...only on the drivers side. I was able to get the seat covers off in one piece.....a member on here wanted them...he is gonna use them for patterns.

Found some metal tags on the back of the seat, Im guessing they are fabric tags but not sure...they were wrapped around the springs....

Sanded the interior and put filler where needed on the gunrack places. I also took out the fresh air vent and cleaned out everything....its amazing at what stuff was in there and how long it could have been there.

Ill get the gas tank out this weekend when I have some help since it has some fuel in it.

Johns 66 04-04-2019 09:29 PM

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Plus a few pics of the radio and center speaker....Not sure if they work but its just cool to see…..

cwcarpenter98 04-04-2019 11:45 PM

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My guess is the carpet was put there to keep the springs from punching through the foam. I just might have to try that on mine to see if it works :lol:

On the radio, there are some companies that rebuild your original with all new internals to have a modern system with that original look. That's what I would do if I had an original radio, but I don't think Frankentruck came equipped with a radio, and the PO hacked my dash a little

roll_the_dice 04-05-2019 08:18 AM

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I think the tags are cool...

I would do as Christian said...I would get the radio rebuilt to modern conversion...to have the old school look with modern technology. That is what I am planning on doing one day.

Johns 66 04-06-2019 05:08 PM

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My guess is the carpet was put there to keep the springs from punching through the foam. I just might have to try that on mine to see if it works :lol:

On the radio, there are some companies that rebuild your original with all new internals to have a modern system with that original look. That's what I would do if I had an original radio, but I don't think Frankentruck came equipped with a radio, and the PO hacked my dash a little

Thanks Christian...I will look into that and see if I can find a vendor that doesn't want an arm and a legs to refurbish the radio

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Originally Posted by roll_the_dice (Post 8501165)
I think the tags are cool...

I would do as Christian said...I would get the radio rebuilt to modern conversion...to have the old school look with modern technology. That is what I am planning on doing one day.

Yeah Andy will have to see if I can find someone to do it and a cost....may not be cost effective but doesn't hurt to check.

Not a lot done today...we had Church work day so spent most of the day doing spring cleaning around the Church......But when I got home the ole mailman brought me my refurbished locks and new keys from the Lockdoc...Mr Leon.

The key on the right is the original key...Mr Leon had some original blanks and cut me two keys along with redoing my lock cylinders and re keying the glove box lock I got from Winston...definitely no slop in the locks now....

Johns 66 04-15-2019 06:27 PM

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A Lil Update...Pretty much torn a part...all that's left is steering column and brake booster. Got the firewall cleaned up. Put POR 15 on all the firewall seams and painted the wiper trough area with POR 15, Also painted inside the fresh air vents.

When I sanded the dash I noticed I had some surface rust on the inside of the dash near the windshield in the trough near the windshield...I guess it was from condensation from the windshield so I also gave it a coat of POR 15. Started cleaning the frame as well.

Johns 66 04-17-2019 09:20 PM

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Few more details.

Took the front cradle out. Its amazing at how dirt and rust seizes bolts and nut...but I guess after 50+ years its to be expected. I only had to cut one bolt off which I didn't think was too bad

Started cleaning the frame......Slow process but itll be worth it. Once the frame is cleaned up then Ill get the cradle torn apart, cleaned up and then painted. Trying to decide if I wanna do the brakes now or wait till a later date....If I do the brakes now I will have to get new wheels since mine are 6 lug and the discs will be 5 lug. Much easier to do it now but have to think about the cost of all of it.

I did get the underside of the dash cleaned as well, all the old "Stuff" was taken out and cleaned up. I will epoxy it when I prime the inside of the cab.

Will get the steering column and brake booster off tomorrow and that should be it for the cab as far as dis-assembly

cwcarpenter98 04-17-2019 11:49 PM

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Dadgum, you've been putting in some work! Why not keep the front 6 lug? That's what I did with 6 lug rotors

Johns 66 04-22-2019 09:12 PM

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Why not keep the front 6 lug? That's what I did with 6 lug rotors

Christian I am wanting to put some 5 spoke wheels on it when she is done and I cannot get those with 6 lugs discs.

A little update. Was able to get some things done. Took the steering column completely apart and ordered new bearings...got it all sanded down and put in primer...coat of epoxy and high build.

Also decided to go ahead and put primer on what I could. Got the interior into both, and the majority of the outside.

Am working on the drivers side rocker area. Having to fix what has been repaired since the door wouldn't shut with the weather stripping on it....kind of aggravating if ya know what I mean.

I will say I learned some valuable things when spraying the primer which will help when it comes to getting color on it. I did see a few places that I will need to work on when I sprayed the primer on it


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