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Advanced Design 03-06-2016 11:21 PM

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Marc, very nice the F car pan and exhaust manifolds will work. Looks good.

xpickup 03-09-2016 11:13 PM

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Youngrodder, frame looks great. That PB stuff is awesome looking stuff. Those poly blocks sure make things easier, no struggling like an iron block.

Shannon

youngrodder 03-10-2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xpickup (Post 7516534)
Youngrodder, frame looks great. That PB stuff is awesome looking stuff. Those poly blocks sure make things easier, no struggling like an iron block.

Shannon

Thanks, you got that right... Waiting on a tranny mount from Porterbuilt at the present.

I think I will move my focus toward the gas tank, since AD (Doug) has already done the heavy lifting on that.

I have always been good at copying off others school work.

Marc

Advanced Design 03-10-2016 10:27 PM

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And I was copying off of Dave with Hollister Road Company. Even then, it is taking me too long! :)

youngrodder 03-10-2016 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7517994)
And I was copying off of Dave with Hollister Road Company. Even then, it is taking me too long! :)

My friend from the hotrod shop has a first gen tank that I can take home to play with to see if it will also work for my application. The watts link and trailing arms takes up space behind the rear end.

Marc

lower50's 03-10-2016 11:52 PM

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The plastic blocks are such a cool thing. Nice to have friends with cool things.

BigFrz 03-11-2016 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 6385204)
I started my next project yesterday.

Backstory...The build that I finshed is this 48 Chevy truck. The reason that I show a picture and mention it is because the plan for this 53 is everything that my 48 isn't. I saw this suburban less then 10 miles from my house over 10yrs ago. It wasn't until my 48 was nearing completion that I thought owning a Subrban would be cool. A few years ago the suburban disappered from the house I saw it at. I had a hunch it was held up in a barn. I knocked on the door this June and by July it was mine. With two young boys (also some of the reason for this project) and their busy sports schedules I didn't get a chance to really see what I bought until yesterday. So far I'm very pleased. My last project was 11 yrs and x amount of dollars. I want this project finished in a couple years with less money.

Plans
chassis - Porterbuild
Drivetrain - Undecided (possible 6 liter fuel injected motor)
Air management - Accuair
Paint - Not a show paint job. Maybe all metal. Some what undecided but to be decided later.
Interior - Nice. sporting all (3) rows of factory seats.
Wheels - 20" Delmo (ish) rims.

In the end I want an untra low comfortable cruiser that I can haul my faimly, bikes and all sorts of our other family crap around in. I also want to use this project as an opportunity to teach my 7 & 9 yr old boys how to turn a wrench. Something that they were not able to do on the 48.

On to the Pics.....

Beautiful truck. Can u send some pics on the build. Would love to see it in progress. I am currently working on a 53 GMC

youngrodder 03-11-2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrz (Post 7518217)
Beautiful truck. Can u send some pics on the build. Would love to see it in progress. I am currently working on a 53 GMC

Thanks BigFrz. The build was an 11 yr build so I have a ton of pics. I didn't document a build so it would take too long to organize the pics. Sorry I'm just focused on my Suburban currently.

Good luck on your 53 GMC.

Marc

Advanced Design 03-11-2016 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7518054)
My friend from the hotrod shop has a first gen tank that I can take home to play with to see if it will also work for my application. The watts link and trailing arms takes up space behind the rear end.

Marc

If the Camaro tank is too long, a 55 Chevy tank might fit. Another option is a 53 Chevy. I think I remember they were both shorter front to rear than the Camaro...I measured for a number of tanks from dimensions on Tanksinc.com web site. And both have a fill that may clear between the frame and Burb body.

youngrodder 03-14-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7519245)
If the Camaro tank is too long, a 55 Chevy tank might fit. Another option is a 53 Chevy. I think I remember they were both shorter front to rear than the Camaro...I measured for a number of tanks from dimensions on Tanksinc.com web site. And both have a fill that may clear between the frame and Burb body.

All good stuff Doug. To be honest I have been screwing around getting the 48 ready for driving season. I have not worked on the Suburban much.

Marc

youngrodder 04-03-2016 11:11 PM

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Well let me start off by saying that due to cyber bullying I decided that I needed to get out in the garage and accomplish something. I don't want to name the source of the bullying as I would not want any ill will toward the offending party. It just wouldn't be fair to Advance Design (Doug)....

I installed my frame mounted brake pedal/booster set up. I think this is right. All of the holes lined up here. I was lucky as I filled a lot of the holes before I remembered that I needed to install my pedal set up. There were no instructions so I tried to use common sense. You know how that can go....Let me know if this does not look right to anyone.

I also treated the lower third of the body and rear wheel wells with POR15. I plan to seam seal then coat the same areas with raptor liner which is kind of like a spray on bed liner.

I also removed the rear brace and will start planning my gas tank solution.

On to the pics

youngrodder 04-03-2016 11:12 PM

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One more pic

Marc

Advanced Design 04-04-2016 02:29 AM

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Guilty as charged I guess...sorry man...good progress Marc. Way more than I did this week end....busy with yard work, equipment maintenance and determining the exhaust tips I ordered won't work.

The brake assembly looks to be in the right place to me and same as my 48 truck was. I had an issue with the transmission mount wanting to be in the same place as the master cylinder that hopefully you won't run into.

Good luck as you and I continue to vie for third place in the Iceburgh, Youngrodder, Advanced Design Burb build off...:)

xpickup 04-04-2016 09:59 PM

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Looks great. I know what you mean about getting the truck ready for the season, mine still needs some attention. I will rephrase that, a lot. But at least it is drive able. All good thing take time. That burb should drive great.

Shannon

youngrodder 04-05-2016 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7547208)
Guilty as charged I guess...sorry man...good progress Marc. Way more than I did this week end....busy with yard work, equipment maintenance and determining the exhaust tips I ordered won't work.

The brake assembly looks to be in the right place to me and same as my 48 truck was. I had an issue with the transmission mount wanting to be in the same place as the master cylinder that hopefully you won't run into.

Good luck as you and I continue to vie for third place in the Iceburgh, Youngrodder, Advanced Design Burb build off...:)

Good to hear that the brakes look right.

Yes, I hear you about yard work. I did that the weekend before. I still need to open the pool in a few weeks which will waste a weekend. Oh and I'm soooo confident that I will have 3rd place locked up that I've ordered myself a trophy.

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Originally Posted by xpickup (Post 7548312)
Looks great. I know what you mean about getting the truck ready for the season, mine still needs some attention. I will rephrase that, a lot. But at least it is drive able. All good thing take time. That burb should drive great.

Shannon

Last year I missed the first couple of shows because I had the 48 torn down replacing a leaking freeze plug. This year the truck just needs a good cleaning. Looking forward to driving it. I think the Burb will handle, drive and steer better than the truck.

Marc

Coach529 04-06-2016 09:15 AM

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looks great. Man I love the looks of the rear end......

youngrodder 04-06-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach529 (Post 7550138)
looks great. Man I love the looks of the rear end......

Thanks, the side of the notch might have to be quite large....

Marc

nvrdone 04-06-2016 11:35 PM

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marc - what m/c & booster are you using ? thanks

youngrodder 04-07-2016 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nvrdone (Post 7551226)
marc - what m/c & booster are you using ? thanks

I picked it up off of EBay.
Here is a link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221674734248...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Marc

Coach529 04-08-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7552533)
I picked it up off of EBay.
Here is a link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221674734248...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Marc

Looks good, price is right on that one.

nvrdone 04-08-2016 09:02 AM

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unfortunately it wont work with a m/t and I have an m21. oh well, back to the drawing board.

youngrodder 04-10-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach529 (Post 7552788)
Looks good, price is right on that one.

Thank you. yes, I thought so too.
I like the idea of the MC being out of sight. On my 48 it is on the firewall.

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Originally Posted by nvrdone (Post 7552829)
unfortunately it wont work with a m/t and I have an m21. oh well, back to the drawing board.

I should have mentioned that. I'm running a 4L60E.

Marc

youngrodder 04-24-2016 09:48 PM

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Well following Doug's lead I too went with a 67-68 Camaro EFI tank. I found one used on Ebay for cheap. It took the seller over a week to ship it. I thought I bet he was having a hard time finding a box big enough. Well when I saw the tank sitting on my front stoop I realize I was wrong. I can believe USPS shipped this tank looking like this. Look at the wires, it looked like a bomb....

I started mocking up the tank today. It took a while but I think I came away with something that will/should work. I had two challenges. 1 - The tank had to be removable from the bottom. 2 - I wanted to mount it in such a way that I don't need straps and the whole thing would bolt in because I want to be able to full dissemble the frame to paint it.

I notched the factory brace allowing me to drop the tank low. I will make a bolt in brace (shown with the piece of wood) that will support the front of the tank. I then will box the frame rails. This is give me something to attach some side mount brackets the bolt the tank to...It felt good to get back out in the garage.

Here are the pics

Marc

Advanced Design 04-24-2016 09:59 PM

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Following my lead...now I feel so responsible. And I followed dwcsr. Anyway, good ideas Marc. And nice score on the Tank...bet all the UPS folks were giving that shipment the eye.

youngrodder 04-24-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7572157)
Following my lead...now I feel so responsible. And I followed dwcsr. Anyway, good ideas Marc. And nice score on the Tank...bet all the UPS folks were giving that shipment the eye.

I like to sit back and wait to see it you make a mistake so I don't repeat it. So far you haven't made any (:

Marc

Advanced Design 04-24-2016 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7572183)
I like to sit back and wait to see it you make a mistake so I don't repeat it. So far you haven't made any (:

Marc

Lol, you mean if we discount my rear floor redo or the 4 sets of engine mounts that aren't done yet, possibly going a fifth version...? Nope, I never misstep. It is all good though.

oldman3 04-24-2016 11:09 PM

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Marc, glad to see you at it again. With UPS you never know...Jim

lower50's 04-25-2016 06:59 PM

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Wow I can't believe they shipped it like that!

youngrodder 04-25-2016 10:49 PM

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Tonight I got back out in the garage and cut all of the metal for my lower tank brace. I also made the mounting tabs for the brace...

All that is left now is to burn in some welds...

Marc

69CST-V 04-26-2016 09:38 AM

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Nice work... Looking at your ideas so keep posting the little details.

youngrodder 04-26-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 69CST-V (Post 7573708)
Nice work... Looking at your ideas so keep posting the little details.

Will do.....thanks
I should receive my trans crossmember on Friday, so that will allow me to set up my drivetrain and figure out my driveshaft length.
Marc

Advanced Design 04-26-2016 08:26 PM

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Egads...you will be catching up to me soon. Nice work on those cuts Marc. They fit really well.

youngrodder 05-01-2016 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7574317)
Egads...you will be catching up to me soon. Nice work on those cuts Marc. They fit really well.

Not sure about that. I used my Dewalt chop saw. it cuts really nice.

Marc

youngrodder 05-01-2016 10:07 PM

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I received my Porterbuilt tranny mount. I mocked it up on Saturday for a few minutes. On Sunday I spent that first 1/2 of the day at an area car show with my 48 truck..the weather sucked but it was good to get it out.

Later on Sunday I got back out in the garage to drill the holes for the tranny mount. Then the bad news....after checking my drive shaft length/angle, I realized that my rear end is 1" off from center. This required me to cut away a my bag mounts, and trailing arm pads. The old 2 steps forward 3 back. At least I found it in advance and since I only tacked the brackets on it was not too difficult to remove.

Marc

oldman3 05-01-2016 11:25 PM

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Marc, engine tranny set up look good...Jim

lower50's 05-02-2016 08:44 AM

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Good find on the diff, That would suck if it caused a problem driving, then you found it. Also very nice 45* cuts.

Advanced Design 05-02-2016 04:19 PM

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Glad you caught the issue Marc. Guessing now the axle ends are equal distance from the frame rails? Good looking trans mount. Packaging in that area gets tight, especially with the under floor master. Looks like PB has a good solution.

RockinKees 05-02-2016 06:15 PM

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Your tank is a nice fit behind the Watts :metal:

Don't we all make small mistakes sometimes ;)
Glad you found it in this early stage!!

youngrodder 05-02-2016 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman3 (Post 7579460)
Marc, engine tranny set up look good...Jim

Thanks Jim...

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7579743)
Good find on the diff, That would suck if it caused a problem driving, then you found it. Also very nice 45* cuts.

Yes, it stills sucks but it can always be worse...Looking forward to getting the 45's welded up to form the brace.

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7580179)
Glad you caught the issue Marc. Guessing now the axle ends are equal distance from the frame rails? Good looking trans mount. Packaging in that area gets tight, especially with the under floor master. Looks like PB has a good solution.

No they were equal. The center of the rear end is offset by 1". That is what screwed me up. I'm going to take my time and center the rear end properly this time by marking the floor with center lines and running string to locate center points. I also think my pinion angle was a little off as I didn't have the gauge on the right part of the rear end. I have never had experience with setting the pinon angle. Another bonus to my redo.

Thanks on the drive shaft dimension. I will check my notes. It sounds close to what I think I wrote down.

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Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7580294)
Your tank is a nice fit behind the Watts :metal:

Don't we all make small mistakes sometimes ;)
Glad you found it in this early stage!!

Yes, the watts takes up quite a bit of room. I wanted to move the tank as far forward as I could to leave room at the end of the frame rails to squeeze in a hitch...

Marc

youngrodder 05-09-2016 11:02 PM

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Well this post will be picture heavy...On Sat I took the 48 to a local show that I have not attended in 7 yrs or more and I have never taken my 48 there. I took a few pics of some odd ball stuff that caught my eye. Who has seen or heard of a Marlin? it was cool and I loved the original interior...


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