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Strodder 08-26-2009 11:01 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3485472)
I was going to say that too. BFH, :lol: I would hammer out the seam to match the door, then skim coat. What do you think Allan?

4dranch 08-26-2009 11:22 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3485472)
:lol::lol:

198plus 08-26-2009 09:47 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
That's what I'm thinking :lol:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3485472)

Alan's Classic 08-26-2009 10:37 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3485478)
I was going to say that too. BFH, :lol: I would hammer out the seam to match the door, then skim coat. What do you think Allan?
Might work on the cab corner body line. It's a shorter line to modify. Depending on how it lines up with the bed.

MacAttack 08-27-2009 10:18 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Remember guys - if you can't fix it with a beater, it's an electrical problem. ;)

Strodder 08-27-2009 11:44 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3486615)
Might work on the cab corner body line. It's a shorter line to modify. Depending on how it lines up with the bed.
The bed could be shimmed up or down that little bit?

1964C10 08-27-2009 11:51 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I am a body work beginner and I have to say that looks like an incredibly hard problem. For the most part the door aligns ok, it just looks like a bad stamp job on the door at the factory. Looking forward to the experts weighing in on this one!

shrunken66stroker 08-27-2009 12:00 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Probably not a bad stamp, just fit a certain truck. I have a donor door on mine and the stamp is a little off too. It probably fit the original truck it was on perfectly. The chrome trim holes are off a little too, but probably fit the original fine. I think there were different measurements going on at different build plants back in the day. They got em close enough.

Strodder 08-27-2009 12:06 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
In those days it was just a truck, and they were put together very crude. Like on my truck the seam above the windshield is much bigger on the right side than the left side, and the door gaps are really bad. As far as it looks like my truck is all original.

1964C10 08-27-2009 12:47 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3487495)
In those days it was just a truck, and they were put together very crude. Like on my truck the seam above the windshield is much bigger on the right side than the left side, and the door gaps are really bad. As far as it looks like my truck is all original.
Yeah that is my excuse for not making the body on my truck perfect like others on here. It has nothing to do with my inability :lol:

joe231 08-27-2009 01:07 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3487341)
Remember guys - if you can't fix it with a beater, it's an electrical problem. ;)

quit stealing my sig quote :sumo:

;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker (Post 3487484)
Probably not a bad stamp, just fit a certain truck. I have a donor door on mine and the stamp is a little off too. It probably fit the original truck it was on perfectly. The chrome trim holes are off a little too, but probably fit the original fine. I think there were different measurements going on at different build plants back in the day. They got em close enough.

they had an allowable range for the fitment of the pieces and panels...if you look in the assembly manual it tells the tolerances....as strodder said, they were only trucks so the tolerances were fairly large :banghead:
probably depended lot on the different assembly guys....we all know how that goes :rolleyes:

4dranch 08-27-2009 02:05 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3487581)
they had an allowable range for the fitment of the pieces and panels...if you look in the assembly manual it tells the tolerances....as strodder said, they were only trucks so the tolerances were fairly large :banghead:
probably depended lot on the different assembly guys....we all know how that goes :rolleyes:
I think I read somewhere that the gap all around the door is 5/32"
except the bottom, it has a 1/4" gap.....

MacAttack 08-27-2009 02:08 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3487581)
quit stealing my sig quote :sumo:

;)
Ooops! I knew I'd seen that somewhere.....http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...s/lmcOoops.jpg

OLDIRON69 08-27-2009 04:02 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
great job Allen! Read the whole thing thru..at $17.75 an hr......shhhhh!

shrunken66stroker 08-27-2009 10:15 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3487655)
I think I read somewhere that the gap all around the door is 5/32"
except the bottom, it has a 1/4" gap.....
These measurements are correct except if your truck was built on Friday afternoon.

joe231 08-27-2009 10:18 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Or Monday morning......

198plus 08-27-2009 10:51 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I took my old 12 bolt rear end out tonight....411 gears and replaced it with another 12 bolt rear end I had with 373 gears and swapped out the trailing arms while I was at it.

I'm getting to old to be doing this crap by myself :banghead:

4dranch 08-27-2009 11:05 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 198plus (Post 3488630)
I took my old 12 bolt rear end out tonight....411 gears and replaced it with another 12 bolt rear end I had with 373 gears and swapped out the trailing arms while I was at it.

I'm getting to old to be doing this crap by myself :banghead:
:lol: Wait till you get old...:lol:

padresag 08-27-2009 11:44 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
what is old?
ron

198plus 08-27-2009 11:52 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Hell I'm 52....My brain thinks it's in the twenty's, but my body feels like it's 80 :whine:

4dranch 08-28-2009 07:15 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by padresag (Post 3488743)
what is old?
ron
Well hello Ron.....Or should I say grumpy old man..:lol::lol:
Everytime someone talks about old you show up....How's things up North??

jason65 08-28-2009 08:03 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3489159)
Well hello Ron.....Or should I say grumpy old man..:lol::lol:
Everytime someone talks about old you show up....How's things up North??
:lol::lol:

padresag 08-28-2009 10:14 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3489159)
Well hello Ron.....Or should I say grumpy old man..:lol::lol:
Everytime someone talks about old you show up....How's things up North??
it is just you young guys whining about feeling old, mind you some are old at 50 while others are young at 65. then again the mind does play tricks on us sometimes
it sure is nice not to have all that heat that I hear you fellows are having down south
ron

Strodder 08-28-2009 11:08 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Like me. Old but my brain is 12 :haha:
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/16625334_aA6U8-M.jpg

4dranch 08-28-2009 11:26 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Glad you showed us that before lunch...

MacAttack 08-28-2009 11:38 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
:mm: You know that feeling when a big gulp of coffee comes out your nose?

4dranch 08-28-2009 01:30 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Is that anything like a liquid burp....??

chucks1967 08-28-2009 02:12 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Ha ha!!!

MacAttack 08-28-2009 02:13 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3489672)
Is that anything like a liquid burp....??
Yeah, with coffee creamer....

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:p...NE/s400/3b.JPG

chucks1967 08-28-2009 02:14 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3400170)
I'm a scrounger if ya'll haven't realized that yet. I started off by trying to find some metal here in town, good luck. Then remembered there is Ingrams truck bodys here in town. They didn't have any metal light enough for me, but said I could dig threw the dumpster. So I went dumpster diving and brought this home.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00508.jpg

Worked on the LT bedside only, patching rust and pulling dents. I had a hard time getting the pull pins to stick. I was using an extension cord so I eliminated the cord and it worked better, but still had some trouble.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00509.jpg

Didn't really want to go up this high, but the metal was pretty thin from corrosion. I felt better by eliminating it.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00513.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00515.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00517.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00520.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00521.jpg
What did you use for the replacement lip, and how did you make the holes? I have to replace the entire length of mine on both sides and need all the help I can get

Muleman100 08-28-2009 04:17 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
How do plan on making the square holes for the carriage bolts?

:devil:

padresag 08-28-2009 05:41 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
you can buy the replacement edges from that place that supplies bed kits and other things
ron

Alan's Classic 08-28-2009 06:08 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucks1967 (Post 3489724)
What did you use for the replacement lip, and how did you make the holes? I have to replace the entire length of mine on both sides and need all the help I can get
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muleman100 (Post 3489897)
How do plan on making the square holes for the carriage bolts?

:devil:
I only had a few to drill and shape with a small file. Like Ron says below Mar-k in OK has the inner panel patch panels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by padresag (Post 3490033)
you can buy the replacement edges from that place that supplies bed kits and other things
ron
:agree:

joe231 08-28-2009 06:26 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
here...I will quote myself..............


Quote:
Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3400267)
Nice work!!


Just for the info of the group ;)

Mar-K has patch panels for the lip inside of the bed.

http://mar-k.com/catalog/Images/Items/g5866Fiwrp2.jpg

http://mar-k.com/catalog/catalog.asp...19661966CW-102

they even have a step by step on their site

http://mar-k.com/GM58-66InnerRepairPanel.pdf

their site really is a wealth of info. and they are a site supporter here :thumbs:

http://mar-k.com/installation_hints.html


any way....advertising thread 'jacking over ;)

padresag 08-28-2009 06:51 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muleman100 (Post 3489897)
How do plan on making the square holes for the carriage bolts?

:devil:
you can drill and file as Alan says or if you have quite a few just drill and use a jig saw with a fine metal cutting blade to clean the corners out

ron

Strodder 08-28-2009 10:18 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
I have a square file that would work perfectly. :thumbs:

198plus 08-29-2009 12:02 AM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Alan, getting the truck loaded on trailer.......See ya in BUMPKINVILLE in the morning :lol:

Alan's Classic 08-29-2009 03:06 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
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Ronnie just left my house after we put his cab mounts and bed on.

ruffrida2005 08-29-2009 03:50 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
will you be doing any more work on the truck. What all was done to his frame and suspension

Alan's Classic 08-29-2009 04:08 PM
Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3491377)
will you be doing any more work on the truck. What all was done to his frame and suspension
I told Ronnie to have the guy that did the doors fix them and get them fitting the cab the way he wants. Then he said he is bringing it back to me to get the front sheet metal on. I really don't like going behind someone else's work. I don't know what is under the primer.

I've got to finish up the cab. The bed needs some more work still.

Ronnie will have to tell you about the frame etc.


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