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glock35ipsc 09-06-2009 04:57 PM

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glock35ipsc 09-06-2009 05:00 PM

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Here you can see where the upper rear 3/8" bolt comes close to the block web. Just be sure to use a washer on a short bolt. Finger tighten first to be sure.

I'm done for today. It's my boy's 9th birthday, so we are getting ready to head to town then to Grandma and Grandpas!

Tomorrow the 5.3 gets set in it's new home!!!!

menace121978 09-06-2009 08:56 PM

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awesome! I UNDERSTAND NOW!! i guess i'm a visual person:lol:

N2TRUX 09-06-2009 10:48 PM

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Nice progress Bob...:metal:

Driveway Dreams 09-07-2009 12:56 AM

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Bob, I just have to say it since no body else will. YOU SUCK! :haha:
Sorry I had to. Good job on Fred. I can't wait to see him up and running...or is that going to be up and sprinting?

hessian18 09-07-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Driveway Dreams (Post 3505618)
Bob, I just have to say it since no body else will. YOU SUCK! :haha:
Sorry I had to. Good job on Fred. I can't wait to see him up and running...or is that going to be up and sprinting?





I can go with that !! X 2 ahahaha



All I can say is soon, I have a truck lined up :metal:


Looking forward to more updates.


Bob

JohnC 09-07-2009 07:54 AM

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Looks awesome man! You are making some serious headway on Fred. Keep the momentum going, and heck you might have this swap done before Fall gets here. :lol:

glock35ipsc 09-07-2009 10:23 AM

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Thanks guys! (except maybe for Gerald :D ) :haha:

I'm setting a lofty goal for myself..... have Fred running for our September BBQ/cruise on the 27th. I may be stretching it a bit, and he may not be 100% completed, but it's the goal for now.

After coffee is done brewing, I'm heading out to set the engine and trans in. :metal:

glock35ipsc 09-07-2009 12:56 PM

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WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Engine mount mod worked PERFECT, NO mods needed for the trans cross member other than drilling 4 easy holes. Engine is perfectly level side-to-side, and I have 3.5* of angle back. Truck manifolds will work with about a quarter sized piece to be notched from the frame. Drive shaft fits perfect. Even the shifter linkage is in the right place. Passenger side exhaust will hook up the the existing pipe easily. Drivers side will need the pipe cut from the flange and rotated to get the right angle, but will be fairly easy too.

I'm getting a little nervous.... things are going TOO good so far!

Weeks of planning just paid off!!!!!

menace121978 09-07-2009 01:23 PM

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:metal: you sure work fast! looks like it belongs in there :metal:

i sure am glad its going so smooth!!!!!!!!!!

nlped 09-07-2009 02:16 PM

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^^^Yep! I'm sure glad too. Makes the task a lot less daunting with all these pics and info. Now if it will just quit raining for a few days so my damn concrete can get started :)

JohnC 09-07-2009 02:37 PM

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Congrats Bob!!!!:metal:

The reason it went so easy is the helper you had. Give that girl a cookie! :lol:

Man this is should be a sticky thread for sure when it comes to LSX conversion.

glock35ipsc 09-07-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 3506279)
Man this is should be a sticky thread for sure when it comes to LSX conversion.

When it is all done and running, I am going to do a huge post with step by step and pics, and make a FAQ out of it.

Putting on the harness right now, have the engine bay painted, and getting ready to put it back in.

Oh, I just remembered that I forgot to test fit the AC. Oh well, at least that's in a place that I can get to easy to do whatever I might need to.

Lunch time!

JohnC 09-07-2009 02:53 PM

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Your a man on a mission!!! Keep it up man.

Palf70Step 09-07-2009 06:05 PM

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Very Nice! :metal: Making me think of a square body again.

LiveAnimals 09-07-2009 06:09 PM

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Well done, I cant wait to see the finished project

Rollinsqrbdy 09-07-2009 06:32 PM

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wow that looks really good.

lolife99 09-07-2009 06:43 PM

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Glock,...
did you happen to make some "templates" of your new engine plates?
Maybe some for sale in the near future?

glock35ipsc 09-07-2009 09:31 PM

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Too tired for details tonight, I'll catch up with everyone tomorrow.

I don't want to see the inside of my shop until Wednesday!!

This weekend's progress was HUGE!!!! :metal:

I'll leave y'all with these, more coming tomorrow. G'nite!

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010182.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010183-1.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010184.jpg

glock35ipsc 09-07-2009 09:33 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred"
 
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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3506649)
Glock,...
did you happen to make some "templates" of your new engine plates?
Maybe some for sale in the near future?

Yes, and yes.

Cherub 09-07-2009 11:08 PM

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I see your sticking with the electronic throttle control

flamingbig10 09-08-2009 12:02 AM

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looking good Bob

joe231 09-08-2009 12:04 AM

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very nice!!

JohnC 09-08-2009 08:21 AM

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Oh BABY that thing looks sweet sitting in there. Great progress Bob. :thumbs:

menace121978 09-08-2009 08:35 AM

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wow... i keep looking at those teaser shots and keep seeing more and more done! the wirings laid out, power steering looks to be hooked up... :metal: where's the a/c compressor?

great news on the plates... thanks Bob!!

nlped 09-08-2009 08:52 AM

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Man, you are really knocking this thing out. I'm with ^^^, did you already test fit the A/C compressor...I know you did, but I have to know for sure :)?

Great Progress.

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherub (Post 3507144)
I see your sticking with the electronic throttle control

Yep, clean and simple, and easy to hook up the factory cruise.

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Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3507544)
where's the a/c compressor?

I have to clearance a couple spots on the AC bracket than I'll put it back on. I had to tweak the trans cooler lines slightly to make sure they weren't rubbing or getting pinched by it. Then I will have to notch the frame for the lines to clear. This part has me scratching my head. I didn't spend a lot of time there though cause I was out of gas! I was concerned at first about the amount that would need to be removed from the frame there since the idler arm mounts in that area, but I think it should be OK if I reinforce the the frame rail around that area real good. But like I said I didn't spend a lot of time looking it over. When I go back out with a clear head and not so tired, it'll come to me.

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3506649)
Glock,...
did you happen to make some "templates" of your new engine plates?
Maybe some for sale in the near future?

It's really going to come down to whether or not I can definitely make the AC work in the LS's original location without too much hassle. So far everything has worked out well. I'm hoping I can so I don't have to spend the $$$$ on a high side mounting kit.

More pics up later.

silvereagle07 09-08-2009 10:06 AM

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Wow! Nice progress. Can't wait to see more.

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 11:31 AM

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OK, here we go!

Passenger side exhaust - I decided to use the truck manifolds because I like the way they look, and I am going to JetHot coat them some day. I had to notch the frame just a little bit to make room for one ear with a stud, but nothing too big. The head pipe has plenty of clearance, and it can be rotated to position the O2 sensor wherever you want it.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010168.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010170.jpg

Drivers side exhaust - No clearancing necessary. The O2 sensor is about 1.5" from the flange, but the turn of the pipe runs it right into the frame rail. So I cut the head pipe off right at the flange, flipped it over, and marked it where it shot the pipe of away from the frame. Then I welded the pipe back to the flange. Now it turns away from the frame, and there is no issues with the shift linkage. O2 sensor is easy to get to also.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010181.jpg

Trans crossmember - Slid it back and it lined up with two holes on the drivers side. Had to drill two holes there (one on the side and one on the bottom) Two on the pass side bottom needed redrilled too. There was 2 holes on the top pass that lined up already.

Shift linkage - Lines up in the original location. Had to adjust the shift linkage rod a little, but the shifter goes into all gears, including 1st.

Power steering pump - Used the 5.3's pump. I don’t know what the name of the part is, but it’s the threaded part on the pump that the pressure hose threads in to. Remove it from the original pump, and install it into the 5.3's pump. Than reuse the original hose. The return line on the pump needed a little tweaking to clear the frame. I cut the truck’s return line, and put a 90* bend in it. Works perfect.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010180.jpg

Trans cooler lines - Had to move the bracket up (the one on the engine), otherwise the lower line rubbed the cross member. Cut and bent them in front of the motor, and I will run them to the radiator with braided SS lines.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...P1010182-1.jpg

I turned the injectors 180* so that the wires to them would be out of sight. Looks much better this way!

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010174.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P1010175.jpg

The wires for the pass O2 sensor are quite long, so I will reroute them and shorten them too. Also, the MAF sensor is on the passenger side originally. I don't want to move the battery, so my air intake will be on the drivers side. So I will have to reroute that part and probably lengthen it too. No biggie.

After spending WAAAY too much time trying to remember how to put the serpentine belt back on (with no luck), my son decided to give it a try. 15 minutes later, I hear “Got it daddy!”

bigbadjohn84 09-08-2009 01:09 PM

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ROTFLMAO!! :haha:

JohnC 09-08-2009 01:13 PM

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Looks awesome man. It's a good thing you have such great helpers with you. I am starting to think they are the ones doing all the work on this thing, and you are just sitting back taking pictures. :haha:

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbadjohn84 (Post 3507981)
ROTFLMAO!! :haha:

LMAO at what??

bigbadjohn84 09-08-2009 01:22 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred"
 
the little helper jumpin in there and getting the belt on in 15 min. Ive had the same issue before.. just wasnt holding my mouth right i suppose. lol

tvblazer78 09-08-2009 01:49 PM

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You got it in sweet! like the looks of it. what all do you need so you can start it up?

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred"
 
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Originally Posted by bigbadjohn84 (Post 3508010)
the little helper jumpin in there and getting the belt on in 15 min. Ive had the same issue before.. just wasnt holding my mouth right i suppose. lol

The kid is a little 9 year old mechanical genius I tell ya! Some of the stuff he comes off with and does simply amazes me. He puts me to shame regularly! :lol: He can spot a 67-72 truck in a blinding snowstorm, and can tell the difference between each year at a glance. We saw a 72 at Walmart once that had a 68 front clip on it. As we walked by, he said "that's a nice 72 you have there." The guy said thanks, then asked him how he knew it was a 72. My boy goes "your mirror is on the windshield!" The guy was absolutely floored! I was going :haha:

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Originally Posted by tvblazer78 (Post 3508061)
You got it in sweet! like the looks of it. what all do you need so you can start it up?

Other than the fuel system and some electrical, mostly little stuff. Fuel system is fairly straight forward.

I still need to wire in the LSx harness to power, speedo, cruise, fuel pumps, electric throttle, re-pin the cluster connector, etc. The electrical will probably take the longest time.

Still waiting on a couple fuel system parts, should be here Thur of Friday. Just got back from NAPA getting heater hoses, oil PSI sending unit, manifold to pipe gaskets, fuel pumps strainers, and some clamps.

Oh yeah, gotta swap the rear end too!

My goal is still to drive it to our Colorado BBQ and cruise on the 27th of this month.

rongstad 09-08-2009 03:16 PM

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Nice build....waiting for the list of goodies to order. I have a 6.0 going into a 86 chevy.....same color as fred..

tvblazer78 09-08-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by glock35ipsc (Post 3508142)
Oh yeah, gotta swap the rear end too!

My goal is still to drive it to our Colorado BBQ and cruise on the 27th of this month.

The rear end what are you doing to it? And 27th is coming uo soon, so good luck with that..

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 06:02 PM

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I had planned on installing the rear end out of my parts Burb, a 10-bolt with 3.42's, but the PO of the Burb trashed the housing. So I am picking up another Burb rear end from a board member in Colo Springs tomorrow that I believe will have 3.42's as well. If not, the ring and pinion from my Burb are in good shape, and I can swap those in to the "new" rear end.

The 27th may or may not happen, but it gives me a goal date to shoot for.

glock35ipsc 09-08-2009 10:30 PM

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Wasn't planning on even going in the shop tonight, but I had to for other reasons. Of course, this led me to do a few things to Fred. :D

I got the oil bypass drilled and tapped for the oil pressure sending unit and got it installed on the engine. I bought a new SU since the one out of the old motor was 1/4 NPT and I needed 1/8 NPT. In the pic you can also see the revamped drivers exhaust flange and head pipe.

Got new heater hoses today so I got them installed.

Also found the "missing" wire that feeds the fuel pumps. In the fury of removing the unnecessary wiring I must have snipped it! Doh! So I soldered a wire on it to run to the relay.

I also separated the harness in a couple spots. The harness had the MAF and the passenger O2 sensor coming out in the OEM location (you can see them draped over the tensioner in the heater hose pic). I failed to tell Jesse and Hannah that I was going to have the MAF on the drivers side, not the OEM passenger location. So I stripped that all the way back to almost the PCM plugs, then I will shorten it when I get the CAI installed. I'll also reroute the pass O2 behind the engine. Now the only wire loom you see is the large one leaving the top cover and running to the PCM. Very clean.

nlped 09-09-2009 07:33 AM

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You are making some major headway!!! It really looks like it belongs in there. I cannot wait to get started on mine!


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