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T-P Auto 02-24-2015 01:31 AM

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AD;

It got cold here today n looks like it is going to be around for the rest of the week. :mm:
Cold with wind n some snow.
So i'm not out in the shop much either. ;)
Was so cold n windy today that I didn't even try to go 90m(1 way) to the Dr appt on my New socket.

We need the snow n rain here.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

reaper71 02-24-2015 09:59 AM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
That suck's Doug about the heat and comp. but before you know it you'll be knee deep in progress!!

Mark...

rusty76 02-24-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7059520)
Thanks Drifters, I keep pecking away. Go for the start on the 52!



Thanks Mike, I used that kit on my 56 Bel Air. The ac compressor won't clear unless I modify the frame and will likely need to go high with it. Just researching ideas.

One of those days in the shop today. A friend came over and whittled out the beginnings of the frame mount, I removed the existing frame mounts...then noticed it wasn't warming up in the shop. Always keep it at 50 degrees and you could see your breath.

So instead of placing the power train, I diagnosed the radiant tube heater. Turn thermostat up, scamper up 15 foot ladder, test for 120v at the igniter when it cycles on in 45 seconds, fumble with test leads as I am kinda hesitant messing with 120v, missed the cycle opportunity, repeat several times...open circuit in igniter, found it is cracked...

Not much Burb building and I did get a bit of a work out.

You can see where it is broken. If they don't glow they don't work. Be careful when putting the new one back in. They break on you if you're not careful. I would have thought you could of got one local from a local HVAC shop or supply house. Three days is ridiculous. Hope you don't have to worry about water freezing. It looks to be a common one used in most gas furnaces. Good luck and get warm.!

Advanced Design 02-24-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty76 (Post 7063508)
You can see where it is broken. If they don't glow they don't work. Be careful when putting the new one back in. They break on you if you're not careful. I would have thought you could of got one local from a local HVAC shop or supply house. Three days is ridiculous. Hope you don't have to worry about water freezing. It looks to be a common one used in most gas furnaces. Good luck and get warm.!

Thanks Mark, I hope so! Some knee deep, or even ankle deep, progress would be welcome.

Rusty76, good eye and yeah, you would think I could get one locally. Maybe, we are in the sticks here 10 miles from a town of 1,400 people and options are limited. I did follow up with the Reverberray company and the ignitor shipped yesterday, hopefully to arrive tomorrow. Guess they must build in some cushion time for their shipping. Thanks again!

Advanced Design 02-24-2015 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by T-P Auto (Post 7063210)
AD;

It got cold here today n looks like it is going to be around for the rest of the week. :mm:
Cold with wind n some snow.
So i'm not out in the shop much either. ;)
Was so cold n windy today that I didn't even try to go 90m(1 way) to the Dr appt on my New socket.

We need the snow n rain here.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

Tim...it was 15 below zero here last night and we are straight east of St. Louis, so it is not like we are way up north...snow still sticking around! Really don't like that stuff. Hopefully you can reschedule soon with the Doc!

Advanced Design 02-26-2015 06:53 PM

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Fixed the heat and will soon have the air supply issue resolved. :)

rusty76 02-26-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7064226)
Thanks Mark, I hope so! Some knee deep, or even ankle deep, progress would be welcome.

Rusty76, good eye and yeah, you would think I could get one locally. Maybe, we are in the sticks here 10 miles from a town of 1,400 people and options are limited. I did follow up with the Reverberray company and the ignitor shipped yesterday, hopefully to arrive tomorrow. Guess they must build in some cushion time for their shipping. Thanks again!

Sorry it took so long. Sorta funny about those heaters but if you have a lift close by to them used to lift cars up, they'll melt the paint off them. Years ago we put some in a shop. We told the guy who owned the shop that he needed to be weary of clearances. He didn't take our word for it and got the lifts to close to the working area of the heaters. It wasn't our fault. Oh well.

youngrodder 02-26-2015 10:30 PM

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Good deal. Nothing like a good heat source.
I have that same compressor in my workshop

Marc

Advanced Design 02-26-2015 10:44 PM

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Rusty76, you must be in the hvac industry? I see a lot of those heaters in shops, usually the write up area. Plus a lot of used oil burners too. Been pretty happy with this one for last 10 or 12 years. Part came on Wednesday and was pretty happy to see the glow.

Marc, I think it will be a good compressor, 7.5 hp with an 80 gallon tank. Buddy has one in his shop and he does a lot of work. I was looking at Champion and he suggested this one. Talked to dealer yesterday morning and they dropped it off in the shop this morning. Same place I bought the lift. Convenient.

Now I need to plumb it in right...usually been getting water in my tools.

rusty76 02-27-2015 03:21 PM

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Yes I do work in HVAC industry. I've been at it for about 15 years now. It's been good to me. I'm glad you got heat in the shop.

youngrodder 02-28-2015 05:33 PM

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[QUOTE

Marc, I think it will be a good compressor, 7.5 hp with an 80 gallon tank. Buddy has one in his shop and he does a lot of work. I was looking at Champion and he suggested this one. Talked to dealer yesterday morning and they dropped it off in the shop this morning. Same place I bought the lift. Convenient.

Now I need to plumb it in right...usually been getting water in my tools.[/QUOTE]

OK, I lied. Mine is a 5.5 hp 60 gallon. Same brand though...
Marc

Advanced Design 02-28-2015 08:10 PM

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Well Marc, it was hard to tell from the fuzzy picture exactly what it is!

Setting it up today and I am not sure how to wire into the magnetic starter. Oh yeah, no paperwork or manual came along with the delivery. 220v single phase.

Research shows it should be into L1 and L2 for connections for the input voltage. Wires at the top of the magnetic switch go to the pressure switch and the wires at the bottom go to the motor.

Anyone have a picture showing for certain where the input wires connect? And if I am not 100% certain I will call an electrician. Gotta be safe!

Advanced Design 02-28-2015 09:20 PM

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Well, I received some good help over in the tools section and especially thanks to Franken.

A friend has the same compressor in his shop and sent me this picture showing the feed going to L1 and L2. After church tomorrow I may wire it up and take her for a spin.

CHIZZLER 03-02-2015 11:21 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Looks like your going to be nice and toasty in the shop and have plenty of air when needed.

roushinator 03-06-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7038444)
Spent a little time figuring out which end the transmission goes on :).

Then removed the harness, manifolds, ac compressor and installed the lift bridge to get ready for installation. This engine lift bridge (not sure what else to call it) came from Mac's tie downs. Decided to try one as all the others I have tend to want to get into the firewall.

What bolt size did you use to attach the cradle to the heads?

Advanced Design 03-06-2015 11:52 PM

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Chizzler, the heat has been really needed. It was -5 F this morning at sun up! Man, that new compressor really puts out the air. Very happy!

Roushinator, I used the exhaust manifold bolts from this engine. That lifting bridge with the angle adjuster is working really well. It is easy to adjust the angle of the powertrain and it is not getting into the firewall like the other ones I have used. Very pleased with this.

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 08:29 PM

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Positioned the engine and transmission in the Burb. Not much room to go back any more unless I modify the firewall. The Mac Tie Down lifting bridge made it pretty easy to dial the engine in where I needed it. And one of these days I would like to do a project where you could just bolt the engine in.....would be too easy though.

Had some really good help in the shop from my oldest Grandson.

Decided to make heavier engine mount frame tabs from 1/4". Please don't laugh at my plasma cutter cart.

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 08:35 PM

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I cut the tabs out then belt sanded them to shape to fit the frame. With the tab held in place on the frame and against the engine mount, I used a centering punch to mark the hole. Once drilled they all fit, held them in place with the mounting bolt and partially welded them in. The finish welding, a little boxing and maybe some gusseting will be completed once the engine is back out.

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 08:48 PM

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So, on to the transmission mount. I used a tie down strapped under the pan to stabilize and support the transmission while lifting the Suburban up in the air.

Trimmed the width on the transmission cross member and made use of the Hem saw I purchased from Jerry Gulley at Gulley performance. Really happy with the performance and accuracy of this saw. Playing around, I was able to slice off a piece of round stock @ 0.020" thick.

To keep the centerline of the transmission in the correct plane, the end mounts on the cross member were about one inch above the bottom of the frame.

I stood there and stared at it for awhile and decided to make one inch block mounts to raise the cross member up one inch. This was to keep it about even height wise with the front cross member.

Sliced some 1" x 3" box tubing down to 1" x 2", welded in some nuts for mounting the cross member ends to, then closed the box tubing up with some 1 inch angle.

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 08:57 PM

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The cross member end is four inches long and the eight inch long spacer will provide better support along a longer potion of the frame.

Bolted the spacer block in for easy removal and bolted the cross member to the block. Once I take it apart again I will close in the ends of the support block.

And finally....... back on the ground with powertrain in place and mounts made. Yay!

This is where I wanted to get to in 2014, so just 65 days behind. Plan to pause the Burb for a little while as I do some updates to the '56 Bel Air for HRPT 2015.

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 09:58 PM

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To celebrate some progress, I took my first ever selfie....

oldman3 03-07-2015 10:51 PM

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Doug, brackets look good, nice looking saw. Good progress....Jim

sir-gto 03-07-2015 11:21 PM

Selfie
 
Love the selfie!! Nice!!

99 to Life 03-07-2015 11:22 PM

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awwwwsuuuummmm, stellar work. man that lift must make life alot easier!!!!!

Advanced Design 03-07-2015 11:54 PM

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Thanks Jim! First time I used that saw on a project.

Sir-GTO...Thanks for checking in. Looking forward to the LS swap on your 65 wagon!

99..thanks man! The lift really makes it easier to do decent work.

slammed57 03-08-2015 07:39 PM

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comin out great ...i'am puttin this on my"follow build" page...lol

reaper71 03-09-2015 10:00 AM

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Looking really good Doug,very neat..

Advanced Design 03-09-2015 09:30 PM

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Thanks Slammed57 and Mark!

The lids for the 99r46 boxes are done thanks to LJ Customs and Blasting. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lj-cu...44230735633756

Really appreciated kicking around the ideas guys.

T-P Auto 03-09-2015 10:02 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
AD;

Them covers look great.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

oldman3 03-09-2015 11:59 PM

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Nice...Jim

Hart_Rod 03-10-2015 08:15 AM

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Great work Doug.

lower50's 03-10-2015 10:11 AM

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At least you have a plasma!! Nice looking motor and trans mounts.

Number98 03-13-2015 10:04 AM

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Coming along nicely, I am really starting to like this old girl....

Sim6 03-13-2015 11:06 AM

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Looks awesome AD! Great work and nice shop. Looks like another project or two in there.

Advanced Design 03-13-2015 05:33 PM

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AD;

Them covers look great.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

Thanks Tim! Luke did a nice job on them.

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Nice...Jim

Appreciate that Jim!

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Great work Doug.

Thanks Hart_Rod, I am really enjoying your builds.

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At least you have a plasma!! Nice looking motor and trans mounts.

Thanks lower50's...it was a wedding anniversary present from a few years ago. Wife got a bracelet. The plasma is way more useful!

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Originally Posted by Number98 (Post 7088462)
Coming along nicely, I am really starting to like this old girl....

Thank you 98...really enjoying your Burb build. Will likely be copying what you are doing when we get a 67 - 72 Burb. Have the wants!

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Originally Posted by Sim6 (Post 7088549)
Looks awesome AD! Great work and nice shop. Looks like another project or two in there.

Thanks Sim6, we've been making improvements to the place since we bought it 18 years ago. Yeah, I have automotive attention deficit disorder. The 35 Chevy Master coupe is to the "build it up before blowing apart for paint stage"...and I started in on the Burb. If you are interested, here is a short build thread on the metal work we've done to the 35.
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=1&reverse=1

Thanks for the observations, encouragement and suggestions guys. That and knowing I am showing what I am doing to everyone here is helping me to do better work.

I like it so well on this forum I bought a hat!

65sub 03-14-2015 09:06 PM

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I really like your storage box idea. I might try that on my sub.

Sim6 03-19-2015 07:55 AM

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Great work on your others. Do you have a build thread for the truck in your avatar photo?

Advanced Design 03-19-2015 08:19 AM

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I really like your storage box idea. I might try that on my sub.

Thanks 65sub. Gotta give credit to 99 to life and ratty46 for the idea that came up as we were discussing what to do with the cut out areas above the wheel tubs.

Advanced Design 03-19-2015 08:38 AM

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Great work on your others. Do you have a build thread for the truck in your avatar photo?

Thanks Sim6, unfortunatley I don't. That was a fun build where a bunch of my buddies came in over a long week end and we put the truck on bags, four link rear, build engine and trans mounts, metal finished the fenders and trial assembled it in a week end. We started with a pile of parts shown and had something that looked like a truck a few days later. It was fun!

Then wife and I finished up some things, had a friend do some paint and plumbing work then we finish assembled.

The truck cab was the most solid I've ever seen. It needed zero rust repair.

reaper71 03-19-2015 09:20 AM

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Pretty damn cool Doug!


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