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Alan's Classic 02-13-2009 12:49 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Thanks for the inputs. I will consider those ideas as I go.

This is what got done tonight. Cut out 8 brackets with the help of sdailey. We used a plasma and cleaned up with a die grinder. Next, the holes have to be drilled. Man, I wish I had a drill press. :lol: I'd like to have 2 studs sticking down thru the floor and one going up thru the seat. Then possibly cap the ends.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08796.jpg

The bracket looks too small compaired to what you see on the seat, but the actual pad on the seat is about the same size as the bracket. I also decided to run 1 1/2" tubing all the way around since the seat bottom tilts. That will also make the seat level with the floor when viewed from the side.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08798.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08799.jpg

Then primed the spot that I wasn't happy with on the roof.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08802.jpg

4dranch 02-13-2009 01:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3141471)
Man, I wish I had a drill press.

Dang Alan, even I got a drill press. look around that big ole shop of yours it's either there or over at Mr.Dailey place.:lol:
Your doing a heck of a job on your rig. I really enjoy the reading.

Strodder 02-13-2009 01:28 AM

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Looks good Allan. Will you brace the underneath the floor with a thick plate where the bolts go through? You can weld nuts on them and bolt the bracket right to it.

Strodder 02-13-2009 01:29 AM

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Sorry you already said that?

protrash64 02-13-2009 02:02 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
What about making the riser all one piece from front to rear, pad up any difference in hite, cut your relief and bolt on the ends. Save yourself 2 bolts per rail, too.

ChiefRocka 02-13-2009 07:47 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Thats an idea...but I think seperate stand offs look better.

protrash64 02-13-2009 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3141734)
Thats an idea...but I think seperate stand offs look better.

I was kinda picturing it becoming more 'one' with seat than a seperate assembly.

Alan's Classic 02-14-2009 12:16 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3141514)
Dang Alan, even I got a drill press. look around that big ole shop of yours it's either there or over at Mr.Dailey place.:lol:
Your doing a heck of a job on your rig. I really enjoy the reading.

It's just one of those things that I need from time to time, but have never bought one. Thanks for the comments David.

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3141577)
What about making the riser all one piece from front to rear, pad up any difference in hite, cut your relief and bolt on the ends. Save yourself 2 bolts per rail, too.

At first I thought about building a frame for each seat, then I had this idea (the one I'm trying). I like it because it is different. I never thought about your idea. It sounds like a good idea. Who knows it might end up that way.:lol:My plans change as I go.

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3141734)
Thats an idea...but I think seperate stand offs look better.

I agree John, at least for now it sounds good. I'm sure it will look good. I've never seen it done like this.

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3142023)
I was kinda picturing it becoming more 'one' with seat than a seperate assembly.

I think it will flow and make it look like part of the seat.

Todays accomplishment. With the Miata done and gone, now I can concentrate on the truck. The fenders, inner fenders and core support got some color.:metal:

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08809.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08808.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08807.jpg

cogorman 02-14-2009 01:30 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
is that a BlowTherm Booth?

joe231 02-14-2009 01:33 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Man I love the orange!!
nice work Alan!!!

TimE 02-14-2009 03:24 AM

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Cool!! Color is going on, that's gonna look nice!:metal:

ChiefRocka 02-14-2009 10:24 AM

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Man that paint looks nice !!

4dranch 02-14-2009 10:34 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
nice work Alan....

Alan's Classic 02-14-2009 12:01 PM

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Does anyone have any pix of how the cab bushings go? I'm going to paint the roof since it is sitting on the ground. Then test fit the cab on the frame finish seam sealing. While it is on the frame I can get to the bottom of the cab to finish up the seats. Then the cab will finally get some color. :metal:

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Originally Posted by cogorman (Post 3143567)
is that a BlowTherm Booth?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3143581)
Man I love the orange!!
nice work Alan!!!

:thumbs:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimE (Post 3143986)
Cool!! Color is going on, that's gonna look nice!:metal:

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3144162)
Man that paint looks nice !!

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3144173)
nice work Alan....

:thumbs:

orange66fleet 02-14-2009 12:10 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I can tell that when someone has a lot of experience, if only I could be closer to visit to see how a pro works. Great job and keep the pictures coming.

Strodder 02-14-2009 12:47 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Looken good Allan. What color is it called?

70 Suburban 02-15-2009 01:13 AM

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http://images2d.snapfish.com/2323232...8%3A4677nu0mrj

cjracing15 02-15-2009 09:31 AM

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I like it!!!:cool:

Alan's Classic 02-15-2009 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orange66fleet (Post 3144304)
I can tell that when someone has a lot of experience, if only I could be closer to visit to see how a pro works. Great job and keep the pictures coming.

Thanks Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3144348)
Looken good Allan. What color is it called?

Thanks, it's 1969 Hugger Orange

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3145429)
Bushing pic

Thanks for the picture of the bushings

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjracing15 (Post 3145708)
I like it!!!:cool:

:thumbs:

The seat brackets are almost done. I bolted them to the seats, set the seats in place, aligned, then tacked in place. Finaly I drilled thru the bracket and floor 16 times. I will remove the tacks and clean up

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08811.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08814.jpg

This is what the bottom of the center seat looks like or use too.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08820.jpg

Right now this is what it looks like. It got late last night and didn't finish the last leg. I just cut off the feet and turned them to the inside. There was some interfearance with the seats. I had to locate the center seat to the front somewhat because when I flipped the center seat back up it hit the back of the cab. After all of this i realized that the seat brackets probably weren't needed. I could have flipped the center seat brackets the way I did and just shortened them. The seats sat on the floor just fine without the center seat in. But with the seats being raised it made it more comfortable and more leg room. I felt like it was easier to reach the pedals. I've sat in another truck with these same seats and it was ackward driving it, by that I mean I felt like I had to lift my leg up when going from the gas to the brake.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08824.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08819.jpg

Dinos63 02-15-2009 11:04 AM

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nice work alan , and i like orange

502tripower 02-15-2009 11:14 AM

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Looks very nice Allen...Love the Orange. The newer seats are much harder to install being three pieces....and I know what you mean about the seat height. I am 5'-11" and in my 02 HD I have the seat adjusted all the way up, not forward but up, because it feels better. With it down it feels like your sitting in a hole or maybe on one of those weard bikes with your feet out in front of you....:lol: Doesn't that seat have the electric adjust?

Strodder 02-15-2009 12:25 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder View Post
Looken good Allan. What color is it called?

Thanks, it's 1969 Hugger Orange

I was thinking it was that color. I'm thinking of a two tone. Black/Torch Red, or Black/Orange. Hugger Orange would look good with the black.

Alan's Classic 02-15-2009 01:33 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinos63 (Post 3145838)
nice work alan , and i like orange

Thanks Dino

Quote:

Originally Posted by 502tripower (Post 3145856)
Looks very nice Allen...Love the Orange. The newer seats are much harder to install being three pieces....and I know what you mean about the seat height. I am 5'-11" and in my 02 HD I have the seat adjusted all the way up, not forward but up, because it feels better. With it down it feels like your sitting in a hole or maybe on one of those weard bikes with your feet out in front of you....:lol: Doesn't that seat have the electric adjust?

Thanks 502, I put the seats in the position that I liked. Since I willl be the only driver and tried to align everything to that, so everything (the rest of the seats) will be aligned. But, there is room for adjustment up/down and forward/back. The seat can't go back anymore due too space limitations behind it. If the seat back is tilted forward a little then it will go back more, but uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3145956)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strodder View Post
Looken good Allan. What color is it called?

Thanks, it's 1969 Hugger Orange

I was thinking it was that color. I'm thinking of a two tone. Black/Torch Red, or Black/Orange. Hugger Orange would look good with the black.

I agree with black and orange. It looks good, but also reminds me of halloween. :lol:

Strodder 02-15-2009 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3146064)
I agree with black and orange. It looks good, but also reminds me of halloween. :lol:

Or Harley.:metal:

Alan's Classic 02-15-2009 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3146231)
Or Harley.:metal:

:lol: I forgot about that theme.

For the most part the seats are done. The seats sit closer to each other than they use to. I needed to do that to line the seat up on the steering column. So too make it even the passenger seat had to come in as well.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08829.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08830.jpg

Cab going up for a test fit and I'm glad I did before I painted it. Even the professionals make mistakes. The right front cab support hole in the pan is not lined up. I don't know what happened. I basically have to do what I did on the drivers side. Cut out a square around the hole and move it. I could have sworn I dropped a bolt thru it. The rear cab mount bolt that came in the replacement kit is too big for the factory nut. I will need to knock off the factory cage nut and use the nut in the kit.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08833.jpg

Me and missing hardware. The radiator support kit that I ordered is missing a carriage bolt.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08838.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08839.jpg

Test fitted the front sheet metal again. For several reasons get them in a safe location and I cleaned up the shop today. Oh yeah I need to repair the headlight mount panel and test fit it on the new fenders.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08840.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08842.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08843.jpg

jason65 02-15-2009 08:04 PM

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I bet it makes you happy seeing it like that. It does me. Our style of trucks makes me smile.

Old School Kid 02-15-2009 08:16 PM

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lookin like a truck , you gotta feel good! she'll be done in no time. Can't wait to see her... Agian I'm diggin the hugger orange. I'll keep you posted on a bed. Keep up the superb work! :metal:

joe231 02-15-2009 09:01 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Nice progress!!!

cogorman 02-15-2009 09:16 PM

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Your truck sure is looking nice man. What brand paint are you guys sprayng? Your finish looks good too. What gun and tip size did you use for your base and what for your clear? I've had good luck using my sata 3000 hvlp 1.3 for base and sata 3000 RP 1.4 for my clears. I used to use the same gun untill I painted an E4 ford fender and blended the door and on my door I had mett. flecks in my blend panel. Then I went to using seperate guns.
I have my bed and fenders stripped down, bodyworked and ready for primer, but I dont know which im going to go with yet. What did you do from bare metal? Did you etch prime and then use high build primer or did you epoxy and then build primer? Did you prep your primer out in 600 and just base on it or did you prep it in 320-400 and seal it before your base? Both ways will work, but I just wated your opinion of what you did and why before I do mine. I dont know what system would be better since they both work well. I do all insurance repairs and dont have a lot of experiance in all bare metal completes, so thats why I ask. all i do at work is spot repair, panels, blends, edging .. insurance jobs dont do complete strip and refinishes too often. Thanks man. When you baked it - did you let it flash for 10-15 before bake or did you go straight out and kick on the bake? Do you guys bake at 155 for 45min or? We just got our blowtherm booth and it seems if I come straight out aand kick on bake immediately i get some solvent pop issues, but if I wait 10-15 or 20 ... bake it everything is fine. The paint rep says to immediatly bake it so as to not trap solvents and we use SIKKENS, but I think it needs to flow out for 10-15 before bake. Let me know what works for you thanks.

jgh64pkup 02-15-2009 10:17 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
do you have a pic of the whole truck with the bed

Alan's Classic 02-15-2009 11:49 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3146641)
I bet it makes you happy seeing it like that. It does me. Our style of trucks makes me smile.

Oh yeah, it makes my sticker peck out.:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old School Kid (Post 3146661)
lookin like a truck , you gotta feel good! she'll be done in no time. Can't wait to see her... Agian I'm diggin the hugger orange. I'll keep you posted on a bed. Keep up the superb work! :metal:

It looks so close but yet so far away. But, it is progress. I saw your ad on CL any hits yet?

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3146719)
Nice progress!!!

:thumbs:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cogorman (Post 3146768)
Your truck sure is looking nice man. What brand paint are you guys sprayng? Your finish looks good too. What gun and tip size did you use for your base and what for your clear? I've had good luck using my sata 3000 hvlp 1.3 for base and sata 3000 RP 1.4 for my clears. I used to use the same gun untill I painted an E4 ford fender and blended the door and on my door I had mett. flecks in my blend panel. Then I went to using seperate guns.
I have my bed and fenders stripped down, bodyworked and ready for primer, but I dont know which im going to go with yet. What did you do from bare metal? Did you etch prime and then use high build primer or did you epoxy and then build primer? Did you prep your primer out in 600 and just base on it or did you prep it in 320-400 and seal it before your base? Both ways will work, but I just wated your opinion of what you did and why before I do mine. I dont know what system would be better since they both work well. I do all insurance repairs and dont have a lot of experiance in all bare metal completes, so thats why I ask. all i do at work is spot repair, panels, blends, edging .. insurance jobs dont do complete strip and refinishes too often. Thanks man. When you baked it - did you let it flash for 10-15 before bake or did you go straight out and kick on the bake? Do you guys bake at 155 for 45min or? We just got our blowtherm booth and it seems if I come straight out aand kick on bake immediately i get some solvent pop issues, but if I wait 10-15 or 20 ... bake it everything is fine. The paint rep says to immediatly bake it so as to not trap solvents and we use SIKKENS, but I think it needs to flow out for 10-15 before bake. Let me know what works for you thanks.

We shoot PPG at work. This orange is actually Sikkens base. I think is has a better color than PPG. I mixed up some and did some spray outs and liked the sikkens better. I know I could tint the PPG, but I'm not a painter by trade I'm still learning. I'll have to get the painters to help tint the PPG to match the Sikkens. It was left over from the Toyota truck I painted.

I've got cheap guns off the tool trucks. The painter lets me use his guns. The orange was sprayed with Iwata ???400. I think the tip was 1.4. He also uses the SATA's.

I sprayed DP90 over my bare metal. Then did the metal work and primed with a 2k highbuild.

I wet sand with 400 and seal.

I rushed the stuff I just painted knowing I will have to repaint for several reasons. The fenders have some solvent pop and the inner fenders were hard to paint both sides at one time and get all of the nooks and crannys. I will have to repaint the top of the inner fenders. I just wanted to get something done. Painting something motivates me cause I feel like I'm making more progress even if I have to repaint if that makes sense.:lol: I don't think I let it flash long enough between coats cause I've got some solvent pop. I also used rapid hardener cause it was friday night and I wanted to take the parts home. I baked it for 15 minutes and it was dry. Normally we bake at 150 for 30 minutes with regular hardener. We started using PPG Glamour clear, I love it more than the 884. I normally kick the heat on with in 10 minutes of painting.

I've painted several cars and have alot too learn.


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Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3146954)
do you have a pic of the whole truck with the bed

If you want a pic of the complete truck go to post #1 and that is when I started the build. The only pix of the current condition is what has been posted lately.

Alan's Classic 02-16-2009 01:22 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3146954)
do you have a pic of the whole truck with the bed

I forgot I didn't post this pic.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08841.jpg

cogorman 02-16-2009 03:07 AM

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Oh, hell, I wasn't trying to nit pick you. I think it turned out great. I wouldnt do any repainting on the inners, but thats me. Once its all shot, sanded and buffed it will be a super sharp truck. I like that orange a lot. Not to often do people do solid colors anymore. Everyone wants a mettallic or pearl or Kandy, etc,etc. I like the solid orange you chose.
The gun your painter uses a ...Iwata-LPH400? Ask him how it compares to a SATA 3000. I've always wanted to buy an Iwata, but don't know anyone who uses one everyday.
Again - looking good!
Danny

cogorman 02-16-2009 03:18 AM

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not to steal your thread, but here's a 64 pontiac lemans I redone for my buddy at work. Ive been thinking about something similar paint scheme wise on mine when I get it ready for paint. hes a cowboys fan so we went with "cowboys" colors. The second picture is where I started on my fenders .. lol im still far off. Im stretching each fender 2 1/2" so i got a ways to go yet. I look at your build thread for more ambition to do mine so I dont get burnt out.
I think i may have your orange n blk painted on my toolbox i use for all my blocks and sanders and grinders. I shot it orange similar to yours and black and then threw a harley sticker on it. harleys - my other love.

jason65 02-16-2009 09:06 AM

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[QUOTE=Alan's Classic;3147197]Oh yeah, it makes my sticker peck out.:lol:

:ack: To much info! But :metal:

ChiefRocka 02-16-2009 09:39 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
That cab/fender/bed mock up pic is awesome....that's gonna be one clean a$$ ride !!

Barebones66 02-16-2009 09:43 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Man thats gonna be sweet !

Awesome work Alan. :thumbs:

jgh64pkup 02-16-2009 03:25 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
its looking great cant wait to see it done

Alan's Classic 02-16-2009 07:51 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cogorman (Post 3147468)
Oh, hell, I wasn't trying to nit pick you. I think it turned out great. I wouldnt do any repainting on the inners, but thats me. Once its all shot, sanded and buffed it will be a super sharp truck. I like that orange a lot. Not to often do people do solid colors anymore. Everyone wants a mettallic or pearl or Kandy, etc,etc. I like the solid orange you chose.
The gun your painter uses a ...Iwata-LPH400? Ask him how it compares to a SATA 3000. I've always wanted to buy an Iwata, but don't know anyone who uses one everyday.
Again - looking good!
Danny

Thanks Danny. The painter prefers the Iwata LPH400

Quote:

Originally Posted by cogorman (Post 3147476)
not to steal your thread, but here's a 64 pontiac lemans I redone for my buddy at work. Ive been thinking about something similar paint scheme wise on mine when I get it ready for paint. hes a cowboys fan so we went with "cowboys" colors. The second picture is where I started on my fenders .. lol im still far off. Im stretching each fender 2 1/2" so i got a ways to go yet. I look at your build thread for more ambition to do mine so I dont get burnt out.
I think i may have your orange n blk painted on my toolbox i use for all my blocks and sanders and grinders. I shot it orange similar to yours and black and then threw a harley sticker on it. harleys - my other love.

Nice work

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3147645)
That cab/fender/bed mock up pic is awesome....that's gonna be one clean a$$ ride !!

Thanks John:metal:

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Originally Posted by Barebones66 (Post 3147649)
Man thats gonna be sweet !

Awesome work Alan. :thumbs:

Thanks Barebones

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Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3148173)
its looking great cant wait to see it done

Thanks, I can't wait to see it done also. :lol: Everytime I turn around I find something else that I forgot that needs to be done. I've got lists everywhere of things that need to be done. I need to consolidate them into one list and prioritize.

jgh64pkup 02-17-2009 04:21 PM

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yeah me too i cant ever find time to work on mine


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