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rgunlock 02-12-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTCK (Post 7483039)
Hahaha no going back!

Well, I may have to be more sober to get it back together than I was taking it apart :lol:

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Originally Posted by boynton (Post 7483057)
Hahaha it better go back

Sure hope so!

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7483073)
A Jig saw puzzle!

Took a LOT of pictures while disassembling - I'm finally learning :lol: If all else fails, there is a guy name milkcrate82 that has a great series of videos rebuilding his C10 column that I'm sure I'll be referring back to a couple of times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4Ly0m01LE

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Originally Posted by dug224 (Post 7483199)
Rick: Took a year (+) off from all the truck stuff. Finally caught up on your thread. Great testimony for staying after it. I'm partial to this body style since I had three of them while in High School. Paint turned out great! Looking forward to the "59 Chevy SWB Stepside (next in line)". dug

Thanks dug! I can't wait to start on the 59 but I'm afraid I'll have a lot of wife projects to catch up on after finishing this truck. Her patience will only go just so far being put on the back burner for her stuff :lol: You need to get back to work on yours!

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Originally Posted by BossH0G (Post 7483237)
Good job it's a nice looking truck so far.:smoke: As far as steering columns go if they ain't broke don't fix em.:lol:

Thanks BossH0G! You know, I always thought that I subscribed to that philosophy, but this whole project tells me I've been wrong about that. Its that whole "while its out of the truck anyway..." problem I have.

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Originally Posted by y5mgisi (Post 7483291)
Is that a non tilt column? Might be better off to start with tilt.

Yep, its a non-tilt. Too late now to start with tilt - this one is already fairly well started :lol:

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Originally Posted by 7dee2 (Post 7483405)
Holy Moly! :crazy: Just kidding I'm sure it'll be like new in no time.

Thanks Brett, just need to order a few things for it "while its apart anyway".

rgunlock 02-12-2016 10:17 PM

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Ordered a factory assembly manual for 1982 C-K Models Pickup Blazer and Suburban that just showed up. Thing has to be 4 inches thick, and it is printed double-sided. Tons of great illustrations, but you can't read the index. I'm hoping it will help me figure out where some of the mysterious small parts go that I took off years ago, but its going to take some time to find what I need:lol:

mjensen 02-13-2016 12:34 AM

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Good luck Rick! You'll get this!

7dee2 02-16-2016 11:42 AM

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Wow Rick, that things a phone book! :lol: We've had AIM hard copies from earlier projects (1955 & several 1966) and they are all less than half that size. I'm thinking in this case bigger is way better because they didn't always cover everything.

rgunlock 02-21-2016 04:20 PM

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Bunch of new parts showed up for the steering column. New ignition cylinder, turn signal switch, ignition switch, lower column bearing kit, and ragjoint.

rgunlock 02-21-2016 04:27 PM

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Closest thing I could find to replace the rubber boot on the steering shaft coupler was a kit from Quadratec for a CJ Jeep. It came with new stuff for inside the coupler (I'm guessing that's what this is called) and it all fit fine. Jury is still out on the boot itself as I bent up the seat plate of it trying to get it onto the shaft. Also got a boot listed for a 70-81 Camaro for the clutch rod. I originally mounted it on the engine bay side of the firewall, but the resting position of the pedal had the boot all scrunched up. I think it will work much better mounted inside.

I hunted and hunted for both these boots listed for the truck but no luck. I think these will both work ok.

rgunlock 02-21-2016 04:31 PM

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Any case, the column is all back together and no spare parts. It did require quite a few trips inside to look at pictures, and a fair amount of head scratching but I think its going to work out fine. I'm guessing that the horn cover didn't come from the factory with screws holding it to the wheel, but its the way it came in this truck. May look for a replacement at some point.

Nice to be able to steer this thing a bit without having to muscle the front tires back and forth :lol:

MTCK 02-21-2016 07:09 PM

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That worked out great. You should be on the road by next Tuesday!

rgunlock 02-21-2016 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MTCK (Post 7494356)
That worked out great. You should be on the road by next Tuesday!

You funny :lol: :lol:

7dee2 02-22-2016 12:00 PM

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Power steering is pretty nice, good job!

rgunlock 03-06-2016 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 7dee2 (Post 7495209)
Power steering is pretty nice, good job!

Thanks Brett! You are SO close to having a roller.

I haven't posted in a couple weeks, but I have been busy. Finished sanding/cutting on the hood and buffed out 1 side. Confirmed what I was afraid of - I have paint stripes. Hard to tell in pictures but they are there and I'd be staring down the length of them when I'm in the truck. I'm going to repaint the hood as well as the fender that the wind blew over. I've got extra paint, just need to get some more clear.

rgunlock 03-06-2016 07:30 PM

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I've been busy on some reassembly stuff as well. I did not clean and paint parts when I did disassembly, so having to do it now and that takes time. Got the hood latch cleaned up and installed with the cable and interior handle. There must be some part that holds the end of the cable. Going to have to find a replacement because I can't find my original part.

rgunlock 03-06-2016 07:40 PM

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Also cleaned and painted the wiper stuff. I bought the wiper motor new before I decided to tear this whole truck down, but it was already rusting. All cleaned up, painted and reinstalled.

I haven't installed the wiper arms yet because the windshield is going to have to be replaced again. Got a crack in one corner. My glass guy said its because the new windshield gasket/rubber is too stiff. Said that all of the brands of new windshield rubber (with corroboration from other installers he knows) are too stiff. Advised never to get rid of the old gasket if its not torn up. They can be cleaned up and reused and are a lot better than the new ones. He got an original used one from a salvage yard to clean up and re-use and said he'd work a deal with me on the next, new glass and install.

rgunlock 03-06-2016 07:49 PM

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I have also been cleaning up and painting all the driver's side door parts. Decided to only do one side at a time so I can use the other side as example of how to reconnect things. I'll show pictures of that when I start reassembly. I forgot to get new gaskets for the exterior door handles and lock, so hopefully that will be next week.

I bought all my new door rubber from GMCPAUL's, a supporting vendor. It's made by Precision. Got the door weatherstrip on. Took all of about 10 minutes to do both sides. No glue required, and holds the mounting lip really well. I hope that the rest of the rubber fits and installs as well as this weatherstrip.

I got myself a good set of wire crimpers, and have ordered split loom and whatever you call the little rings/whatever to mount it to the frame and body panels. Hasn't come in yet, but I won't have any excuse to keep procrastinating on the wiring much longer. For whatever reason, that job is intimidating to me.

MTCK 03-06-2016 08:32 PM

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Looks great! Wiring isn't too bad, just take your time.

swamp rat 03-07-2016 12:35 AM

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Its all coming together nicely!

boynton 03-07-2016 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MTCK (Post 7512197)
Looks great! Wiring isn't too bad, just take your time.

I agree slow and steady is the key here.

rgunlock 03-07-2016 11:24 AM

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Thanks for the encouragement guys. I know that once I dive in, it likely won't be any worse than half the other stuff in this build. Just have to quit putting it off - but there are SO many other things that also need doing:lol:

boynton 03-07-2016 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rgunlock (Post 7512978)
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I know that once I dive in, it likely won't be any worse than half the other stuff in this build. Just have to quit putting it off - but there are SO many other things that also need doing:lol:

Hahaha. I hear that but trust me you don't want to wait too long because things start to get in the way.

7dee2 03-07-2016 11:47 AM

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Sucky deal on the windshield Rick. So what is the electrical plan you going to get one of those you build it type kits or? I've always bought the pre built factory type harnesses as replacements for the ones I couldn't or didn't want to repair.

rgunlock 03-07-2016 12:05 PM

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I got an American Autowire kit, which should be mostly plug-n-play, but not entirely. So most of it should go pretty smoothly.

y5mgisi 03-07-2016 01:08 PM

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Good stuff! I'll be back on mine when my kitchen remodel is done!

cmabolt 03-18-2016 07:15 AM

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Good luck with the wiring Rick. I also procrastinated on mine, but once I finally gave in and started, I found it to be enjoyable. AAW lay it out so well it makes life pretty easy. My install was far from stock with the LS/non-factory air and other improvements and turned out just fine. Even added some weather pack connectors in places I thought needed a little upgrade. You will be just fine. These trucks really don't have much going on compared to today's cars.

Chris

rgunlock 03-18-2016 07:22 AM

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Thanks for the encouragement Chris. I realized this past weekend that it wasn't the wiring itself that intimidated me - its that I am not the contortionist that I used to be and I've never been flexible :lol: I did get started though.

7dee2 03-18-2016 09:38 AM

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Getting it wired and everything working your in the home stretch Rick!

cmabolt 03-19-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rgunlock (Post 7526772)
Thanks for the encouragement Chris. I realized this past weekend that it wasn't the wiring itself that intimidated me - its that I am not the contortionist that I used to be and I've never been flexible :lol: I did get started though.

Hilarious! Well after back surgery I wasn't exactly thrilled with the idea of hanging upside down in the cab with my head under the dash and feet hanging out the rear window hole. Somehow, little bit at a time, it was done.
Chris

rgunlock 03-20-2016 06:03 PM

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Well, I've been having loads of fun figuring out where the random brackets and switches go that are tied into the pedal assemblies. Finally think I got the brake light switch mounted right. I'm hoping that it activates the brake lights when the plunger is released by pushing the pedal. As you can see, I've started wiring under the dash as well.

rgunlock 03-20-2016 06:20 PM

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And during disassembly, I found part of a switch (on the left) hanging from the wiring. After looking online for what seems like hours, I'm pretty sure this is a safety switch that keeps you from starting the truck without pushing the clutch pedal in. Ok, so found one and ordered it. Now where does it mount??? More hours online didn't turn up anything. Finally pulled out my 5" thick Assembly Manual with the illegible index this afternoon. After looking through about 1200 pages of it, I found this diagram.

Turns out the little 'j' hook thingy on the end of the plunger doesn't actually hook to anything. It's a spring loaded thingy that is intended to be pushed through a hole on the clutch pedal. Then the switch bolts through the square hole above and to the right in the picture. Looks like it needs a special plastic bolt. Found one online that matches the part number in the assembly manual but says its for 79-84. Hope it works - for $10.00 I went ahead and took a chance and ordered it.

The bracket was a whole other mystery. Turns out is is 1 of 2 of these brackets and mounts where the steering column collar bolts to the pedal assembly bracket. Allows you to bolt the dash sheet metal to it to stiffen the dash face. Had to drop the column again and loosen the brake booster in order to get it installed.

rgunlock 03-20-2016 06:37 PM

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Since I'm having to order small parts every time I turn around, I'm working on more than 1 thing at a time. Been working on the driver side door. Figured out how to reattach all the rods to get the latch, lock and handles to work. Also got the regulator and window in. Little stiff closing the door with the new weatherstrip, but I think it fits well.

Messed up the piece of rubber that has to rivet to the vent window so had to order another. Otherwise, its close to ready to go in as well. I haven't started the passenger side yet in case I need to look at parts for reference.

One of my son's friends called these my "man cave curtains" :lol: Thought I'd share. Spread the old harness out so I could find the miscellaneous grommets, connectors, etc. in case I need them.

MTCK 03-20-2016 08:45 PM

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Good progress. I can't recall how that clutch safety switch is mounted, sorry.

Greenlee 03-20-2016 09:13 PM

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Looking good! You have done a beautiful job on this thing. :metal:

swamp rat 03-21-2016 02:12 AM

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Your doing a great job figuring it all out, this tells me that I will need to take a lot of pictures!

7dee2 03-21-2016 10:11 AM

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Man cave curtains that's pretty good! :lol:

rgunlock 03-21-2016 10:28 AM

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Thanks guys!

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7529836)
Your doing a great job figuring it all out, this tells me that I will need to take a lot of pictures!

Thanks Mike. On my next project, I will know better not only to take a bunch of pictures, but how to take them. I took a bunch on this project, but have found that I didn't have quite the right picture. Or I can't find the picture among the thousands of generically named pictures I took.

I think it is important to keep firmly in mind that when you take a picture you are doing it with the idea that you may be reassembling years later. Make sure you get enough context in the picture to know what you are looking at. Use a screwdriver or something to point at the part and where it fastens, etc. so it is clear later. I also pulled a number of parts off that I didn't snap a picture at all. I suppose at the time it seemed obvious where it went. Not so much 4 years down the road when I'm trying to figure out where it goes.

Good thing we have this forum to get help when needed!

quadzero 03-25-2016 10:41 PM

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This attention to detail is amazing. Looks like I'm looking at pictures of a brand new truck. Keep up the great work.

rgunlock 03-29-2016 11:35 AM

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Thank you quadzero. It does feel like I'm in the home stretch, but getting less time on it lately. Checked and the honey-do list was up to 27 projects I've been putting off thinking I'd be done with this truck by now. Finally broke down and decided that for a while it will have to be 75% honey-do and 25% truck until I can get a handle on that list:lol::lol:

swamp rat 03-29-2016 10:57 PM

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Honey dew list longer, days warmer, and longer......

7dee2 03-30-2016 10:22 AM

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It's true happy wife = happy life! Makes it easier for my wife to put up with the hobby.

rgunlock 04-03-2016 08:44 PM

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Ok, significant progress being made on honey-do #1. Dug ditches, ran PVC, put in a valve and voila - irrigation. Just need to put in a couple spray heads after finishing the rock work. Also ran the invisible dog fence wire around the bed and finished digging and pouring the footing (ok spreading dry concrete mix and watering it down). Working on the rock work now. About 6 years ago I made the rock sidewalk. Its about 3 times more than you can see in the picture. After today's bending and stooping and mortering, I can't believe I was able to do that sidewalk 6 years ago:lol: Damn I'm getting old. Going to have to finish all the rock work projects soon or they'll never get done:lol:

rgunlock 04-03-2016 08:49 PM

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But I've also gotten in a little truck time. Got the "innerds" of the driver side door pretty much done. All new felt and rubber around the window and vent. Door closes easily and tight. After wearing my back out on rockwork today, got after the passenger door stuff. Pretty much all cleaned and painted and ready to rebuild.


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