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I'm not doubting ya'll, but I don't remember having any trouble. When I go to work tommorrow I'll check out what I sprayed and how it was mixed. The painter that introduced me to the product mixed it up while I was there. I'll check with him to see if/how he reduced it. From what ya'll are saying it diffenately needs reducing. Sorry for the confusion, just trying to help. Looks like I'm doing more hendering.

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Ok man thats cool, let us know. It was werid, it was like just pouring base/clear paint in a gun and trying to pray it without reducing and it was that bad. maybe bad quart.. i dont know.. i shook it really good too. Yeah let us know what you find out tomorrow, thanks

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:agree: Yeah,what he said ;)

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Ok, I'm back at work. I took pix but can't upload at work. I used DP90LF and DP402LF. I will tell you that the painter here said he reduced it down to something that would spray good. He used TLAR method "That looks about right". That's why it went so far. I strongly urge you to talk to the people you got your paint from and see what they tell you. I sprayed my bedsides with it reduced down and the part sat outside for awhile in the weather and didn't rust except where I didn't get good coverage.

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Get a MSDS sheet and instruction sheet on how to properly apply it. 2.0 tip is WAY to big unless you are shooting Rustdefender or similar product. Which side of Norman are you on? Give me a call and maybe I can stop by this weekend and see what is going on.

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Thanks Alan, i tried to get info from the place I got the paint.....they are an auto supply and don't seem to know much......I asked what I could use to thin it.....he told me the stuff that comes with it :rolleyes:

Thanks Mike. I got the MSDS and instructions, it said 1.4-1.6mm and 40-60 psi....the one thing we missed was that with the DP401LF activator you are supposed to mix it then wait 30 minutes before spraying, oops. i got another quart of the DP90LF and this time got the DP402LF activator instead, no wait with it.
I live on the east-side of Norman, but the cab is in Tuttle at Scott's shop
you think it would work better with the suggested 1.4-1.6mm tip? it didn't hardly want to flow through the 2.0mm, but maybe that was due to us not waiting 30 min to spray it....

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You should not need a 2.0 tip and waiting 30 minutes won't change the viscosity that much. Are you sure there is not a reducer that also goes with it? 1.4-1.6 tip should be plenty. Are you going to shoot the cab again this weekend or when are you going to be there? I don't mind coming over, my work shop is in Washington, just south of both locations. Just let me know.

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yeah, I've looked and PPG says not to reduce it, it will lower the corrosion protection.
I still have to talk to Scott, but hopefully he will be available tomorrow or Sunday. I will let you know when I find out.

I assume you have used the dupont metal conditioner....does it have phosphoric acid in it?

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Oh heck no! :lol:
So was it the wrong stuff? That's the reason why we used the 2.0 gun because it was so thick otherwise we would have used the 1.4..

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All the metal conditioners/etch primers have phosphoric in them. I am not up on PPG products anymore, but if they say 1.4-1.6 tip, then it should not require a 2.0 tip to shoot. Did you ask the retailer about it?

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I got it at Palace auto supply.....they either don't have a clue or don't care to help......I'm kicking myself for not biting the bullet and buying the dupont gallon......now since i have started with the DP, think I need to finish with it. found more info saying you can mix 2 parts primer, 1 part activator, and 1/2 part reducer to make it a sealer.....but if it is being applied as primer, no reducer..... also found lots info that we didn't have to do the metal cleaner/conditioner, with the blast, could have just wiped it down with wax and grease remover then shot the dp on it :banghead:


I will be using dupont on the rest of the body and maybe the frame.....just due to the customer service

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Joe if anybody can figure this out and keep on chuggin, it's you. hope everything works out for. you only got two months before I take some good pictures of you guys cruzin across the bridge into Memphis..:metal:

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:haha:

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The last mix you mentioned was roughly how the primer was mixed that my friend and I did on my truck. I mixed it 2:1:1.

Im no expert by any means, but Im thinking it would be reduced for sure.

Is it a high build product??

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When are we gonna get some pics? Any action shots?

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no it is a 1.5mil protective, moisture proof primer, then after it you can use filler and high build/sandable.......that requires no reducer according to the PPG site.

what primer is on your truck?

Jason, i'm working on it now

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Yeah...whats up? Its probably all going to be a re-creation, just like watching Cops or something.

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:haha:
roflmao!!!

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Joe, it was 5 years ago. I know it was a budget primer. I didnt buy it because at the time there were 3 of us doing trucks and we kinda all bought different stuff/ materials and I ended up using 1/2gal of primer that someone else bought as a trade for some stuff I had at the time.

You will eventually get it straight.

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how it is now.....it isn't horrible, I think another coat and it will be good.
got a couple runs to sand first......

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anyone seen these before?? thinking maybe a PO did it?? It did have seam sealer in the holes
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Ask and you shall recive.:metal: good progress man. Good to see it.

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I aim to please, or am pleased to aim, or sumtin......

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Looks nice Joe,
A whole lot different than the cab in your avatar huh.

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ain't it, it was cool to see it totally bare.......kinda like the truck is getting to start over, fresh new start......a "i'm not tearing up, i have something in my eyes" kinda moment ;)

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it's your moment, do as you want..............



okay thats enough:lol::lol:

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:haha::haha:

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I havn't seen those holes before. Mine didn't have them. What was Scott doin? Playing with his pet box again?

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:haha:
maybe the fumes have gone to his head :rolleyes:

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Palace makes a better auto parts store than a paint supplier. I go there to get AC Delco parts as it is cheaper through them than from the dealer even with shop discount sometimes. There are some things I can show you that you don't have to buy all the expensive stuff to get a nice job. Sometimes though, it pays to get the good stuff up front. Call me anytime, no sense learning the hard way when I am a phone call or short drive away.

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I don't remember the time frame exactly, but if you wait too long between coats, you should sand the whole area before coating again. I have the info sheet at the shop....I can look for you tomorrow if that will help.

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cool Mike!
Thanks, I appreciate it. :metal:

yeah it is a 7 day window.....we did the first coat last Wednesday.....should be good to go
Thanks

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Looking nice Joe....Cool to have members all helping out !!

:metal:

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Ya i was playing with my stick, i mean mixing the primer... caught me.. :lol:

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Looken good Joe. Keep up the good work. :clap:

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Like I said before, I'm not an experienced painter and 7 days seems like a big window. Was that on a can or MSDS or just hearsay? I can't read the fine print on the side of the can any more. I'm in denial that I need reading glasses.:lol:

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And yet another 1 off "Joe Custom" cab tilt. :c2:What's the details on it?

Hurry up and figure all of this paint stuff out. You and Scott won't have much time to get my cab done. I'm only gonna be there a week!;)

I'm not even gonna comment on the pic of Scott and his response...

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thanks guys,
Alan it is on the P sheet...after 7 days you have to scuff it and clean it before coating. Apparently it take 7 days for it to fully harden....so what do you do for a living?? I thought you worked in a paint shop, you just do the repair stuff and someone else paints? sorry, i'm nosey ;)

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I found some curved arms off of some old wheelchair lifts in our shop with a nice 90* radius, welded some smaller tube to the dolly and drilled holes. I just have it on the rear now, but I'm going to add the smaller tube to all 4 sides so I can tilt which ever direction...I have to give credit to Rokcrln, if i hadn't seen this who knows if the gears would have started turning.....

one week is lots of time, just pay my weekly salary and I will dedicate the whole time to your cab ;)

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I was thinking more like 20 bucks and a "Thank you"...:sexy:

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:lol:
throw in lunch and it is a deal!!! :D