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sirJim 02-08-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8461403)
What documentation did you use to determine what heater hose clamps are used? It seems that most, if not all, of the pics of "original" trucks I've seen have the spring clamps on the heater core but I've also seen spring and tower styles on the engine end of the hoses. Never have found a definitive answer yet.

My 62 had all spring clamps.

The Rocknrod 02-08-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8461403)
What documentation did you use to determine what heater hose clamps are used? It seems that most, if not all, of the pics of "original" trucks I've seen have the spring clamps on the heater core but I've also seen spring and tower styles on the engine end of the hoses. Never have found a definitive answer yet.

You could look at Lambrect reference thread maybe?
https://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vbo...=488680&page=8
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=603021

damnyankee36 02-09-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rocknrod (Post 8461574)

Yeah, the Lambrecht thread throws another wrench into the research. One of the 6 cyl pics shows a side bolt clamp design on the 3/4" hose at the water pump!

I wonder if 6's and V8's were different... I wouldn't be surprised if the years were different too.

The Rocknrod 02-09-2019 10:33 AM

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Surprising also is that GM never kept an archive on the vehicles they built. I had a 63 Dodge 440 model and got the build sheet from the Dodge archives easily. Ferd probably doesn't either so I guess when you build and sell as many car as they do . . .

60-66 02-10-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rocknrod (Post 8462072)
Surprising also is that GM never kept an archive on the vehicles they built. I had a 63 Dodge 440 model and got the build sheet from the Dodge archives easily. Ferd probably doesn't either so I guess when you build and sell as many car as they do . . .

The numbers are out there for Chevrolet Rocknrod , Mid sixties Cars have just about all been found broken down even by color. Trucks figures from 1964-1966 have been found also , still hunting 1960-1963. The GM archives does have it but you have to be somebody to dig in those archives. I know one such person ! He has enough to write another book but the truck market was not ready for it when we last talked.

60-66 02-10-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8462066)
Yeah, the Lambrecht thread throws another wrench into the research. One of the 6 cyl pics shows a side bolt clamp design on the 3/4" hose at the water pump!

I wonder if 6's and V8's were different... I wouldn't be surprised if the years were different too.

damnyankee , theres plenty of documentation in the form of original trucks to get you to the point of , no judge could find you wrong. Not knowing what Year truck your referring to OR what assembly plant makes it difficult to help you . You have to take into account the fact that Heaters were also a dealer installed option , ALL of these factors are KEY to understanding those details. Research on your end is whats key , knowing your truck and how it was ordered and outfitted by the dealer is important to understanding what and why went where. The assembly manual , accessory installation manual , heater accessory installation instructions ALL show these details but again , what year are you working on ???

The Rocknrod 02-10-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 8462873)
The numbers are out there for Chevrolet Rocknrod , Mid sixties Cars have just about all been found broken down even by color. Trucks figures from 1964-1966 have been found also , still hunting 1960-1963. The GM archives does have it but you have to be somebody to dig in those archives. I know one such person ! He has enough to write another book but the truck market was not ready for it when we last talked.

But did they keep copies of the build sheets?

damnyankee36 02-10-2019 12:53 PM

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It's a 66 Custom, V8, factory air. It was originally sold In Paducah TX but I don't know where it was built. I haven't looked at the VIN.

It would be interesting to see if trucks that have that same configuration would have the same hose clamp styles. You could even go as far to say that just the fact that it has AC might make it different from other trucks. Or, whatever clamps they had on the line at the time might be a possibility.

I know what you're saying... I restore 1st generation Camaros and the researching them can get crazy! It's definitely a lot easier to research them compared to the trucks. There's so much more Camaro info available.

damnyankee36 02-10-2019 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8462899)
...It was originally sold In Paducah TX but I don't know where it was built. I haven't looked at the VIN...

Ah, St. Louis.

damnyankee36 02-10-2019 01:16 PM

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Blk63vette 02-11-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1 Burb (Post 8452136)
Trust me, after spending hours researching which bolt goes where, the horrible bowtie will be emblazened in your brain.

I like to see more pics of your ac set up aI want to get mint to look like yours someday!
:chevy:

LT1 Burb 02-12-2019 11:55 AM

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Here is a couple of pics of it., Can't have a picture of AC stuff without the ashtray. Also Factory AC should have 5 bladed fan, heavy duty radiator, shroud etc.

Lokin4AReason 02-12-2019 12:53 PM

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OOoooH, i have been looking for one of those ashtray(s) ....

nice progress on the build also .... keep up the good work

pimpston65 02-13-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LT1 Burb (Post 8464336)
Here is a couple of pics of it., Can't have a picture of AC stuff without the ashtray. Also Factory AC should have 5 bladed fan, heavy duty radiator, shroud etc.

I have a 292. should I keep the 4 blade fan? or switch to a 5 blade?

LT1 Burb 02-14-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65 (Post 8465656)
I have a 292. should I keep the 4 blade fan? or switch to a 5 blade?

I am not sure on the 6 cyl's.

60-66 02-14-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65 (Post 8465656)
I have a 292. should I keep the 4 blade fan? or switch to a 5 blade?

1966 292 AC truck , has the fixed 5 blade fan.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...d/IMG_0389.jpg

forestb 02-16-2019 10:50 PM

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Tried to install my new kicker audio stereo and realized that I am not smart enough to install it but I am smart enough not to try��

I don't know why this got posted here. It was supposed to go to the what did you do to your truck today thread.

corvettejim1968 02-22-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LT1 Burb (Post 8464336)
Here is a couple of pics of it., Can't have a picture of AC stuff without the ashtray. Also Factory AC should have 5 bladed fan, heavy duty radiator, shroud etc.

hate to point this out but the center A/C vent is installed backwards

damnyankee36 02-22-2019 11:02 AM

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LT1, do you have the correct nuts that mount the AC box to the firewall?

Could you show me what they look like? I have two styles on mine and can't tell if either one is correct. This pic of yours shows which ones I am referring to.

Thanks!

LT1 Burb 02-23-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8471882)
LT1, do you have the correct nuts that mount the AC box to the firewall?

Could you show me what they look like? I have two styles on mine and can't tell if either one is correct. This pic of yours shows which ones I am referring to.

Thanks!

Jon(60-66) would be the guy to answer this, he has an NOS AC kit and will have all the hardware with it new.

damnyankee36 02-23-2019 12:06 PM

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I did look at his "Dealer Installed A/C" thread earlier. No pics of the nuts, but the diagram, along with the AIM, shows what looks like a flange/washer nut. The nuts previously installed were this type of nut and a stamped, (for emblems?) type nut.

I just went to Lowe's and found a couple of free-spinning flange nuts.

pimpston65 02-23-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 8465976)
1966 292 AC truck , has the fixed 5 blade fan.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...d/IMG_0389.jpg

Nice

pimpston65 02-23-2019 12:14 PM

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try the local smaller harware stores they may have the correct items, found a set on a pick the other day.

damnyankee36 02-23-2019 12:15 PM

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You're saying this is the correct nut?

pimpston65 02-23-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8472605)
You're saying this is the correct nut?

yes it came off a heater box from a 66 C10 i always take bolts screws and washers from trucks when i pull parts, in order to have the correct one and if one is missing then i got to the hardware to match it.

damnyankee36 02-23-2019 12:33 PM

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Hmmm, I was gonna assume that this type of nut wouldn't be to bolt on something that heavy. Emblems, maybe.

Guess I'll rethink this again. They are easy to find, however.

Thanks for the tip.

60-66 02-23-2019 01:05 PM

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Winston is correct about the nut. Its more about sealing force than supporting weight since the weight is carried by the studs. Theres also support from the bracket to the dash. Lowes nuts are all wrong for this.



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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8472614)
Hmmm, I was gonna assume that this type of nut wouldn't be to bolt on something that heavy. Emblems, maybe.

Guess I'll rethink this again. They are easy to find, however.

Thanks for the tip.


pimpston65 02-23-2019 01:10 PM

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these hold the box on the engine side

damnyankee36 02-23-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 8472632)
Lowes nuts are all wrong for this.

Close enough for me. Sometimes you have to decide when to draw the line...

I bet if you could find them repro'd they wouldn't be much better!

Thanks for all the info.

pimpston65 02-23-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8472658)
Close enough for me. Sometimes you have to decide when to draw the line...

I bet if you could find them repro'd they wouldn't be much better!

Thanks for all the info.

you just made what i call a "work around". finding a product thats available now to meet the same goal and look almost like the original. nice...

pimpston65 02-23-2019 02:13 PM

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i think its more on this thread to find the factory correct item, because i have a work around. i just like pulling parts and get the item as it came.

60-66 02-23-2019 03:47 PM

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Well , that's why I have "parts trucks" I rarely if ever use store bought fasteners when putting one of these back together in "original" form. I Reuse many original nuts and bolts with the correct head markings and size and simply clean and replate them. Makes a BIG difference when you see any restoration done. My biggest turn off is seeing a restoration and every nut and bolt was bought at the local hardware store , all of your local hardware is now Chinese and is NOT the same thread pitch or diameter most the time. Theres a company that actually makes most of these fasteners exact. Pretty big catalog selection right down the the head markings and GM part numbers if you needed something speciphic. I will try to get that info and post it later. If you're doing a restoration , its worth it , resto mod or modified , who cares.

damnyankee36 02-23-2019 03:50 PM

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AMK?

http://amkproducts.com/

pimpston65 02-23-2019 03:54 PM

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My parts trucks are bone yards close that still has originals no one cares bought other then me, I been pulling parts at this one spot for 3 yrs and there’s still more there.

60-66 02-23-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by damnyankee36 (Post 8472757)

Yes , was just going to post it. Stamped nuts are what they call those.
http://www.amkproducts.com/Catalog_PDF/56-73.pdf

Submariner616 03-04-2019 02:59 AM

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On my 1965 K20, listed next to "Paint" on the kick panel plate are the numbers 80-72367 and 96890. Does anyone know what these numbers mean?

Submariner616 03-04-2019 08:54 PM

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I have searched the numbers and have tried to find a match on every 65 Chevy paint color sheet I could find with no luck.

aerotruk63 03-05-2019 10:19 PM

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Usually codes like that are a FLEET color or Government issue . state rescue and such not. What original color is on the truck now?

sirJim 03-06-2019 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65 (Post 8472763)
My parts trucks are bone yards close that still has originals no one cares bought other then me, I been pulling parts at this one spot for 3 yrs and there’s still more there.

There wouldent happen to be a round inside cargo lamp lens? I broke mine from my 62 suburban.

Submariner616 03-06-2019 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aerotruk63 (Post 8480815)
Usually codes like that are a FLEET color or Government issue . state rescue and such not. What original color is on the truck now?

Exterior is a very rough cream white. Firewall is blue and I see some blue under the white around the cowl. Interior is a gold-ish tan color. Here is a picture of the firewall with the original markings. You can see a little of the white up on the cowl. VIN is K2535S124324

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/p...ictureid=25193

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/p...ictureid=25194


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