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Re: Rustbuket 67 build "Georgia"
Nice progress Dan! I like the gas filler notch too.
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Everything is looking great!
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You've come a long way since I last checked your thread. Looks good, really like the silver control arms, and I'll be copying you on that filler notch most likely! Great job.
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I just went through your entire thread at work (shhh... don't tell my boss). You've done quite a bit of work. I do have one question, if you don't mind. When you did your exhaust cut out in the cross member, are the pipe sections you welded in necessary, or just preference? I ask because I think this is the route I'm going to go with, but seeing the wedge cut into the factory piece, I'm thinking it was meant to have a little flex, and the pipe doesn't allow for that. Maybe I'm over thinking it? Nice progress, and great job so far.
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I agree with you that the welded in section of round tube is not really needed. If you take a look at the ECE crossmember and other aftermarket crossmembers it is just a cut out. My reasoning was we only had 4.5" round at work so that is what I used. With the 4.5" my cutout was on the edge of the radius of the bend so I thought welding in the reinforcement would be a good idea. Ideally I would like to have used 3.5" round with no reinforcement. I work with engineers all day so I understand the overthinking, I do it all the time. slows me down :devil::lol: I finished the tank notch and mounted the tank for the last time. I have been working on several other things and stocking new parts but the pic situation here is too much of a pain to post pics. I will try to sign up with photobucket in a while and try that out. We have also been taking care of a few things with an insurance claim at the house too, new roof, gutters going up right now, I have to paint the back porch,garage door and overhangs and have a new shed built. This is taking up much of my "spare" :lol: time. Ellie wants to post some smilies: :waah::mm::devil::tee::whine::flagw::hi2: |
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I love the picture from the back with the cab on the frame. Almost like looking at a womans backside. Great job with the fab of the notch. :metal:
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Attempting to link through photobucket. Trimmed the notch down getting ready to weld. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps448024cd.jpg Welded in, smoothed out just a little bit. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4aacaee5.jpg Welded in with a little primer, it was raining on and off when I was trying to work:uhmk: http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5343440c.jpg Another shot in primer. Not the prettiest welds. I need to buy a bigger welder soon. The Millermatic at work has me spoiled. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6a3f63dc.jpg |
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I had to notch out the rear crossmember to clear the notch.
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I will finish uploading and updating after lunch. Photobucket works pretty well. I dig it :smoke:
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Lookin good there stud!
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Tank notch painted with tank installed, again.... http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2258171b.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps183ae97a.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8be31a31.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10123be8.jpg I really wish the fill neck was .75" taller. If it were it would fit perfect between the frame and bed floor. Oh well done with it now ;) |
Re: Rustbuket 67 build "Georgia"
Looks good Dan!!
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These pics show how it is mounted directly to the underside of the frame. I used two 1/2" bolts on each side through existing holes in the frame. A typical receiver hitch wont fit with the Boyd tank but I found the CPP hidden hitch will fit. I may have to get one of them someday;)
Driver side http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psf5282544.jpg Passenger side This shot also shows some .25" rubber strips I cut on the shear to go between the tank and frame. Not sure if I need to use them or not. Any thoughts?? http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4727bc8a.jpg Here are a couple shots of the tank installed. Sure looks purdy:smoke: http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps745ca860.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps021c3b52.jpg I also torqued all the hardware on the rear and marked them with a sharpie so I don't forget :uhmk: |
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That sure looks nice, super job. I know you used lock washers and nuts to bolt in the tank, I think I would use locking nuts, just to be extra safe...Jim
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Here are my rear shock relocators. I started these a long time ago but I decided I was going to copy robnolimit instead of this style. BUT the nolimit shock relocators would interfere with the Porterbuilt track bar bracket on the driver side of the frame. Sooo back to plan A.
Upper shock mounts removed and marked. Be careful they are not symmetrical. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7fd5cee2.jpg Cut them up with the plasma. Probably should have used a straight edge. They cleaned up fine on our vertical belt sander. Love that tool ;) http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps193ec426.jpg All cleaned up. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psfd942134.jpg Painted and installed. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2a703a31.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps98614a02.jpg |
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The idea on the upper shock re-locator is to move the hole up and BACK for more travel and to straighten them back up as before lowering.
Here is a link where I got the measurements. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=359399 Or you can just buy them from ECE or CPP. I am doing my lowers like the ECE and CPP version from my own measurements rather than modifying the stock lowers to work. Here is a pic of my experimental shock fitting jig. Once I decide on a hole to use I will make some out of 3/16. The lower mounts flip the tab down rather than up as original and maybe a little forward for better angle and more travel. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps427e2f5f.jpg |
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Mounted the Idler arm bracket and idler arm. Moog of course ;) painted with Seymour cast blast. I really like the cast blast finish. Looks new but wont rust like a raw part.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psf684985f.jpg I also have the pitman arm but cant put it on yet because I noticed my blasted/cleaned/primered steering gear started oozing fluid so I bought a gates reseal kit. waaaa |
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Dan, that puppies coming right along! All you lack now is finishing up. :smoke:
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Everything is looking great! Have not been on here in way way too long and I am happy to see that you are doing a fine job at keeping on going. So many thing I love about your build!
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Nice Clean Work!
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Read through the whole thread, and I am impressed! Great job on the rust repair and chassis looks awesome. I wish I was as resourceful as you are, keep up the pace and soon you'll be ridin'!
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Nice work on the shock mounts Dan. Keep up the hard work.
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SO where was I? I punched holes in the rubber strips for between the frame and tank, installed them and changed out the nuts in favor of nylock lock nuts. Then I was messing around with some gas tank filler hose trying to figure where the filler will end up. I wanted it behind the rear wheel well in the floor but I really don't see how to make the turn up that close to the floor other than welding a sharp radius 90* pipe to a filler neck. Probably end up with a filler on the inner bedside or flush mount in the top of the bedside where the stake hole used to be. I will figure that out later once I put the bed together. I decided to go with a wood bed floor so I have a steel floor I need to get rid of. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0c90c7b6.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6e5be6a2.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps41ee252f.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psf5f547de.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pse7d1b841.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psa4318516.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps03cbe781.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psa12bea05.jpg |
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Now back to the rear shocks and lower mounts.
I decided to use this hole :lol: It is just mirrored off the original bracket on the opposite side. The other holes just didn't work out as I thought. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49233c5e.jpg I cut the brackets with the plasma and smoothed the edges, and formed on the press brake. Time for a test fit. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5d67df6e.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psd89174cc.jpg I ended up having to obround one of the holes because my u bolts are a hair over bent, Just to make installation easier. Then I made some gussets to add a bit of overkill to them. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2efc59c.jpg I put the new brackets on and installed new .5" x 2.5" bolts, press fit ;) http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psaafd703d.jpg |
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Now I have plenty of shock travel and it didn't cost me anything other than spare time :metal:
Next up is the steering gear, When I blasted it and primed it fluid started seeping out of somewhere so I bought a seal kit. I removed the pitman arm nut and rented a pitman arm puller. Time to read the instructions :lol::uhmk: http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2fe709bc.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps176156ad.jpg |
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I was able to change my seals out without disassembling the entire box. Just dig the old ones out with a pick or small screwdriver and tap the new ones in. I have done full rebuilds before and it's a pain in the butt and probably not needed.
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I too am curious about your steering gear! If you rebuild the whole thing be sure to show us pictures! I'm always worried about sand having possibly worked into the gear but maybe that's not a concern? Looking good!
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Dan, great job on the shock bracket, etc., love the pics....Jim
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Awesome build!
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removing the rag joint and pitman arm.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psfac99600.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps38fe313c.jpg Then you can remove the cover bolts and remove the pitman shaft. make sure the gear is centered or it wont slide out. if you remove the adjuster nut count the threads or measure the length of the threaded part. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psb7199b48.jpg be right back, little man is crying again... |
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Okay little man is asleep...
on the rag joint end (sorry forgot the technical name) there are two seals, the outer seal pulled out pretty easy. The inner seal didn't want to leave so I had to resort to drastic measures. I screwed a sheetmetal screw into the seal and yanked it out. :lol: I must not have take a pic before I put the new seal in but here is a pic of the old seals and the new seals installed. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3d977641.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ff61be3.jpg You will need a good set of snap ring pliers. I had to borrow a real set from Daniel (suspect) once I broke a new pair from autozone attempting to get the first snap ring out. Thanks again buddy! Back to the pitman shaft seals. There are 2 washers and 2 seals behind the snap ring like so: washer,seal,washer,seal. They are accessible from the other side of the box once the pitman shaft is out so you can push them out pretty easily. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pse95d3ab1.jpg Cleaned up the bearing, I guess I should have got the rebuild kit instead of the reseal kit. The reseal kit didn't come with the bearing. Oh well there is some corrosion where the pitman shaft rode on the seals that was the source of my leak so I don't plan on this lasting forever anyway. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps41e5bc91.jpg new seals installed for the pitman shaft. I gently tapped them in place with a socket. http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5545a3c7.jpg The great thing about the Gates seals is that they are the exact same as original and even have the same numbers on the seals as the ones I took out so there was no guess work as to which seal went where. |
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I watched a youtube rebuild video and they say that if the middle gear is taller and different shaped than the outer gears that means it is a variable ratio box. Anyone know if this is true?? here are a few pics of the gear.
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So I put it back together, painted it and installed.
http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1722443e.jpg Then I finally installed the new pitman arm, tie rods, and sway bar. I used energy suspension sway bar bushings and ECE lowered sway bar mounts. THe sway bar mounts were too short for my drop yet the stockers were too tall so I have a temporary spacer (1" sq tube) in there until I make a better looking spacer. I wish they used end links on the sway bars :lol: http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...pse8c42d57.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4484a829.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps610fa16f.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psf0202c91.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psc600a29a.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps007be7d7.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps88f9e3ce.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5474a6c7.jpg http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/...psbe9e54ee.jpg Sorry it's hard to get good pics on the front driver side the way I have it shoved against the front wall. I have to install the lower shaft nut grease zerks, tighten everything down to spec, install cotter pics and get to lubing her up. What kind of grease do you guys recommend these days?? I am going to order a complete stainless brake line set from inline tube with the '72 front lines and the '67-70 rear lines next week. Then I guess I need some calipers and pads eh? |
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Looking great Dan, everything looks super clean.
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Very informative series on the gear box overhaul. I still have to do that one myself. I've been leaning towards pull-a-part for a later model box. I understand they take less turns of the steering wheel lock to lock.
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