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They make a pocket kit for the tri five Chevy that allows moving the leafs into/suspended under the frame for additional tire clearance for those larger meats and still leaves the room between the rails for fuel tank/exhaust.. Like here:
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Love that spring mod! Great idea.
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Still working on the frame, Kyle was prepping the frame for welding on the strengthening plates while I drilled the plates for plug welds..
Plug welding.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203733.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203735.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203737.jpg The outer perimeter will be Tig welded... |
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Continued nice work. Reinforcing the frame along the pocket is a good idea. Logical and I haven't noticed it done before.
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Thanks, I just wasn't keen on the pocket kit alone, a little added security blanket, if you will..
Still working the frame, here's the driver's side plate all clamped up and ready to go.. Hindsight and all that, should have made the plates about 2" longer and we wouldn't have those pesky holes in the way at the front end.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203739.jpg So we decided to cut out some 14 gauge and fill in those holes. Cut a piece the same width as the hole, and rounded the end. Then used the band saw to cut a vee on the back side of the "plugs" and continued to clean up the radius with the 3" Roloc sander. Once close, a bit more on the band saw and break off the remaining, then fine tune with the sander.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203741.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203743.jpg Magnet used to hold in place for tacking.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203748.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203742.jpg For TIG welding the perimeter of the plates, we decided to make up a "crutch" that we could rest our hand on for better holding the torch... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203751.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203750.jpg Kyle is getting a pretty good hold on this welding stuff... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203747.jpg He even let me get in some practice.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203755.jpg |
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Looking great as always...Jim
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I just read the whole thread.. Really nice attention to details, I've learned allot,, thank you for the time it takes to do the images and post the information also |
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No, they are dragging their feet and in the meantime the dirt is piling up :lol:
Kyle got the welds finished up on the frame plates... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203756.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203758.jpg Frame is ready to send to get media blasted... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203757.jpg And the rear was busted apart for some media blasting as well http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203762.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203763.jpg Getting the bus parts prepped for paint, the owner had a used bumper in stock so it will get repainted... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203761.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203760.jpg |
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We've been waiting for an opening at the machine shop's blasting booth, we're going to get the frame done first. They have some large platform in there now for the US Navy, so it looks like another couple weeks.. So in the meantime, Kyle has been prepping some front end components for paint..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203764.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203765.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203766.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203767.jpg ......and we should have this showing up tomorrow, need to get some metal cut out of the side and new replacement made up... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203726.jpg |
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Here's what we had to contend with on the bus. Some can opener effect going on....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203769.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203770.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203771.jpg After cutting some of the mangled mess out of the way......... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203773.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203774.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203775.jpg ......we saw that the bottom structural member was not going to cooperate. The horizontal section behind the weld tear at the top used to be vertical... So to save some time, we'll cut this out and make a replacement. This is 16 ga, and is there to keep vehicles out of the passenger compartment. It did it's job, so let's put in a new one to restore the integrity.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203776.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203777.jpg Here the bottom flange is pushed in over an inch.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203778.jpg Here's the replacement we made up.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203780.jpg Comparison.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203782.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203783.jpg All trimmed, we'll get the replacement panel formed and fitted Tuesday.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203784.jpg Spare parts... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203786.jpg |
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Well our bus side panel is just shy of 8' long and about 24" wide. We did a light pass on the wheeling machine just enough to break the grain, figured it would have less chance of waves that way... We found out real quick that 8' is a bit long, so some 1x2's were pony-clamped under the outside edges to provide a bit of support. We tried to make a pass through the bead roller for the stepped flange at the bottom, with less than stellar results, a bit wavy up and down. Good thing we had the other half of the sheet. More wheeling, and used the offset / step dies in the Lennox Tru-Edge.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203787.jpg Given our challenges with the long panels, we had to call in reinforcements. Regardless of the late hour that Scott's attire suggests, it was only 8 at night! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203789.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203788.jpg Linear slides really came in handy, nice straight detail this go round.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203791.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203792.jpg Comparing the bend relief above the rear bumper ear... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203793.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203795.jpg Tomorrow evening well get it fitted to the bus and final trimmed.. |
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Finished the welding of the lower structural member on the bus repair...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203797.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203798.jpg .....and underneath it is tied to the floor cross members http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203802.jpg Added the frame around the fuel door, this helps prevent the side panel from flopping around as the fuel door is pushed closed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203803.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203808.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203807.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203806.jpg Thursday evening we'll get all the holes pre-drilled for the skirting and start prepping for paint.. |
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Nice clean fix going on there. The channels came out really well. How did you make them? Almost looks like press brake work and am thinking they are too narrow for that.
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The channels are 16 ga cold rolled, they were bent on the Baileigh magnetic brake.
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Took delivery yesterday of a Blocking Hammer from Peter Tommasini. To give you an idea of the size of this beast, the stump is 24" in diameter..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g%20Hammer.jpg This should come in handy in making the 16 ga repair panels for the front fenders on John's Beiderman truck.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203642.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203603.jpg |
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The braces for behind the lower skirt were mangled pretty well, had to untwist the pretzels to get accurate measurements..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203809.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203811.jpg Getting all the holes prepped... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203813.jpg Welding in the new braces.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203817.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203820.jpg All the pieces of the puzzle... Well, almost.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203821.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203822.jpg Now to bust it apart for paint prep.. |
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Sure looks alot better...Jim
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Well, only one more piece to make for the bus, we need a cap to join together two pieces of rub rail....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203823.jpg Bent up some 18 ga on the Baileigh magnetic brake... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203824.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203825.jpg Then for the highly technical stuff, bent the rest using vise grips to clamp it in place and a dead blow to incrementally tap the ears around... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203826.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203834.jpg Continued to use the hammer to tap it around, then tightened up the radius on this die/post dolly http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203843.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203844.jpg We'll get some paint on the bus parts tomorrow.. |
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Got some paint on the bus parts tonight....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203847.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203848.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203850.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203852.jpg For the hardware, we media blast the heads and then paint.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203855.jpg |
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Looks good...Jim
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Thanks Jim!
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The other night while spraying parts, I made a couple trips over to the bus location with the spray gun... in between coats, to get some primer on the bare steel we put in... SPI epoxy on the structural components..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203856.jpg .....and some epoxy AND yellow added to the nice scraped up lower corner.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203857.jpg Coming together... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203859.jpg Rivets were media blasted and urethane only, just like the screws. This shows how well the paint holds up to the installation "abuse"... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203860.jpg Done! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203863.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203866.jpg |
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Nice work Robert.
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We knew you could do it! :)
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Turned out great...Jim
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Nice work, I bet the original builder wasn't that concerned with priming behind the panels.
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It seems a shame they didn't have you fix the scrape ahead of the wheel while yo were at it.
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Yes, but this wasn't an insurance job, nor was the previous incident when that dent was added. With the cost being paid by the owner, sometimes a line is drawn in the sand as to what is worth the cost of repair.
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I hear ya I did collision repair for 15 years. Nice work on the bus always top notch
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Thanks!
Dropped it off before work, picked it up afterward. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203866.jpg After about an hour in the driveway with an air hose, the flow of trapped media is scarce, but I'm sure there's still some there. We'll get some SPI epoxy sprayed tomorrow night... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203867.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203868.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203869.jpg |
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That frame is a thing of beauty,
Quality of work is second to none. Even on a school bus no short cuts are taken. When Im out in the shop I reflect back to this build and it makes me try that much harder. Thanks for posting, even the small stuff. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. |
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OOOO Cleeeeean! Gotta love some blasted metal.
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Nice turn around time, frame looks great...Jim
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Thanks for the comments fellas..
55 parts everywhere.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203870.jpg Two coats of SPI epoxy.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203871.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203872.jpg Had some left in the paint gun so a couple of extra pieces were moved in... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203873.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203874.jpg Oh yeah....the "new" trailer wheels were all blasted and ready to go, so they got a couple coats on the back side... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203875.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203876.jpg |
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The frame had some slight pitting so the sides were hit with the DA to flatten things out a bit, and some Evercoat 416 used to address some of our plug weld grinding marks on the frame plates...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203882.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203880.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203881.jpg Here's the "winter" heating method for spraying in cold temps. 170,000 BTU aimed at the air return, and the air handler fan turned on constant to circulate the heat. Open window for air intake.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203883.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203884.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203885.jpg After three coats of primer, the sides of the frame are looking much better than before... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203886.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203887.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203889.jpg Also got some more primer on these parts as well, should be ready for blocking in a few days. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203891.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203892.jpg |
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Have a Merry Christmas
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Nice and Clean.
Merry Christmas |
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Thanks guys. Merry Christmas everyone!
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The other day when we primed the frame a second time we also did the front side of the trailer wheels..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203893.jpg and today I mixed up some Centari that has been sitting on the shelf a few years.. It sprayed pretty decent... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203896.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203897.jpg And more blocking..... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203900.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203901.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203902.jpg |
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