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lower50's 03-17-2015 12:17 AM

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The interior looks great so far. Just remember fist day of spring friday ;)

99 to Life 03-20-2015 10:26 PM

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3-20 Not many pics, but I did get a lot done in a short amount of time today. Some good some bad. Got my back glass in. Don't remember the rubber being so difficult to get around the glass, I had to use duct tape to keep it in place.

The way I installed it was start from the inside, get the bottom and bottom corner on (hard part is getting the gap open on the rubber to sit on the cab) once that is started then its just a matter of someone on the inside putting pressure on an area, and me on the outside with a screwdriver, pulling the rubber out. Once all the rubber was out, I had to go inside and push the glass slowly so it popped up into place, thats the last hoorahh of that project and just got to be careful is all. Took me about an hour to do, but there was a good 15 minutes getting the rubber placed around the glass. I still have to do the lock bead.

I got a full stainless Jones full boar muffler in. I just wanted something throaty and stainless, getting down to the wire here, so if I don't like them in the future I'll dedicate them to "start up" mufflers. Still need to order the other and debating on cutting the exhaust back so the mufflers aren't right under the air tank.

I got some more interior wiring done. Finally got the all the air ride wirings done. I have a toggle switch that controls the comps when the key is on ACC, so they just don't start running bf you start the truck. I tested it out and the pressure switch is working properly (shuts the air off at 150psi).

Wrapped up some more interior wiring as well. I just have to get speedo and tach in, get them wired up. and a few odds and ends and interior is just about fully wired.

I'm leaking anti freeze from what I believe is the "brand new" water pump. So I gotta take that off and investigate. My fuel reg is leaking again. I'm getting annoyed with redoing everything!!!!

Billys68SS 03-21-2015 07:52 AM

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Hey Henry, In your future projects... Dont know if you have heard about this or not, but the way to get a glass in like that with a rubber seal is to use a piece of string around the perimeter of the glass inside the rubber channel where it goes on the sheet metal. You loop the string in, overlap it where it crosses, lube it and the channel up real good with silicone, have someone on the outside put the window in place, someone on the inside with the 2 ends of the string in hand and just gently pull in opposite directions. The rubber will slip right up onto the sheetmetal. Lickity Split! I have done it this way for years. Using a screwdriver is not the best way. It will work, but you chance damaging the rubber and cracking the glass. Glad you got it in though. Looking good man!

Advanced Design 03-21-2015 08:45 AM

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Good progress 99! Too bad about the new water pump leaking. Probably from the weep hole? These are challenging enough to build without the new parts not cooperating..

IWanna49 03-21-2015 10:46 AM

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Almost there! It does piss you off when "new" stuff doesn't work tho!!

99 to Life 03-21-2015 02:10 PM

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thanks guys, billy. I'v used rope on my windshield on my 51'. it was pretty easy. Then tried it on this windshield and it just wasn't working. This one was really tuff. So on the back glass I didn't even bother trying, the rubber was just not sitting on the glass for crap. Soon as I taped it up, which was a task on its own, I then went right over to get it in. It really wasn't too bad. I do believe the rope trick but just wasn't happening for me on this. Maybe I got crappy rubber, I dunno.

yes new parts not working sux. I just took my old temp water pump off to put the nice polished one on. So now I'm gonna take it off and start all over. Hoping to refire it up next weekend and possibly a drive outta the garage very soon.

Billys68SS 03-21-2015 11:37 PM

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Hey Man, I understand. Biggest windshield I ever did that method on was my first a 65 Ford Falcon. It was my dads car and the windshield was cracked. He found a used one, Mom and I went to Dennis Carpenter in Charlotte and picked up the new rubber. Best thing to do with new rubber before trying to install it is lay it out in the sun and get it warm. Same thing with new seat covers, or headliners.. etc. Of course that might be difficult this time of year in some areas. Ha. We still have to do the same thing on the 66 we are working on. The rubbers are in a box in my garage.

99 to Life 03-28-2015 11:50 PM

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3-28 Not much to report but some things getting done. I only had my headlights and turnsignals rigged up front (because I was unsure of what turnsignals I wanted to use) I folded and just used these ones. I bought retrofit sockets that go into the assembly so you can use a dual bulb. I ordered 10 amber bulbs online for the cost of about 2 bulbs in the store. I cleaned up my sockets and got new gaskets for them.

I final wired my headlights and turnsignals, took waaaaaay longer than I expected. Though I did wire up weather packs to each unit on both sides, so I can easily disconnect if needed. I also made some good grounds to the frame. I hate doing grounds, I like wiring but hate grounds, always just takes forever trying to figure out where its gonna go and is just more wires to deal with (my dumb ranting)

been firing up the engine a bit. carb is running so rich it burns my eyes everytime and is pissing me off. as if I don't have enough crap to redo on this truck! So Im about to take it off and see what jets etc, the prior owner had. Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made is being lazy about that (it came off a running car) and I didn't bust it open.

here is a random ride height shot, running boards aren't really on. still need to patch rear fenders and get them bolted up, odds and ends for days. interior needs finished, doors need fully hung and bear clawed.

I'v been having some trouble with my tach that i'm converting. Not sure if I have a bad tach or what, or if I messed it up by fiddling with it. So I'v been playing around with that. I'm going to hook up PWS monday and it should be able to drive outta garage, even though I need to do some final bolting on alot of things.

Advanced Design 03-29-2015 09:03 AM

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Good looking at ride height 99. Hopefully you can sort the carb out quickly. Good idea on the connectors.

oldman3 03-29-2015 09:41 AM

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Looks great, can't wait to see it outside...Jim

99 to Life 03-29-2015 12:11 PM

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thanks guys, yeah the weather packs IMO are worth the extra work. I like the idea of quick removal or access to things, just never know when you gotta swap and engine or if you get in a wreck or whatever.

Jim, I can't tell you how bad I want to get this out in the light. sick of these dingy garage pics.

SSABMUD 03-30-2015 08:34 PM

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Looking really good. I can't tell you how many things I have done twice and even three times. I guess it is all worth it in the long run.

daverod 04-02-2015 10:39 PM

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getting there

99 to Life 04-04-2015 12:01 AM

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4-3 Daaang wassup daverod? Nice to see you back, hows the 52? Making some more progress, sorry no pics. Will try tomorrow and also maybe some more footage. shooting for rain so not sure if I'm taking it outta garage or not. its getting close. Today I fought for hours on my PWS pump. I bought one for a 85 c10, I could have swore the one on my 51' is outta a c10. So come to find out they have different bolt patterns. See the pic. I have an extra one that is like the camaro and the new one I have is like the c10.

Problem with the c10 clocked position, with this style aluminum bracket is.... A. had to cut and drill the lower bracket, B. only one part of the lower bracket that bolts to waterpump could be used (no bolt in back of reservoir) C. its clocked so tight to the waterpump I have almost no adjustment room.

So my problem with the c10 pump is no adjustment, so I'd have to be dead nuts with the belt and I just don't even see how its gonna work. So I may put the other pump I have on. which sux, cause I bought a brand new pump and pulley for a reason, now I can't prolly use it.

Anyone experience this? Here is a pic Hopefully get more decent posts coming soon.

oldman3 04-04-2015 10:36 AM

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99, that sucks, wish I could help, but no info...Jim

Advanced Design 04-04-2015 12:06 PM

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What Jim said. I have a shelf full of parts for different projects that didn't work out.
Be easy enough to sell though!

Russell Ashley 04-04-2015 03:44 PM

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Aren't the pumps the same, with the difference being in the reservoir? If so, you could remove the pump from the C10 reservoir and put it in the Camaro reservoir if that would give you the clocking that you need.

P/S pump mounting can be a pita. I tried two different mounts and reservoirs before I got mine like I wanted it.

99 to Life 04-04-2015 11:46 PM

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4-4 Well I did manage to get the other PWS pump on. Belt is a tad long so I have to get another one. I had to take the back pressure fitting off the truck reservoir and swap it into the camaro(ish) pump so my hose would work. Seeings cause I bought a hose for a 85 c10. but yeah I'll be able to sell that pump with brand new pulley etc. Live and learn. I was aware that some pumps have different fittings in the back and I'v seen that first hand, along with the clocking positions. I got all new centerlink and tierods buttoned up on her today. Fired it up and with the fans for the first time. Keeping nice and cool and running good. pulled some 5k revs and I'm liking it. Drove back n' forth in the garage today :metal:

here are some ride heightish pics and layed out and with the hood just plopped on there. don't mind the hood placement and door placement, both are just sitting idle. my temporary alt isn't working, so gonna get my final one and once its on, taking this skag outta the garage.

oldman3 04-05-2015 12:25 AM

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Alright 99, great progress...Jim

Advanced Design 04-05-2015 11:03 AM

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Looking good 99! Glad you worked out the ps pump.

lower50's 04-07-2015 12:18 AM

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Ride height looks good. I hear you on the outside pics, pushed mine out for first time in the sun 2 weeks ago.

skymangs 04-07-2015 08:02 AM

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Looking killer 99.

47 Fasttoys 04-07-2015 09:48 AM

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Looks good 99, on the road soon?
Rob

99 to Life 04-07-2015 12:51 PM

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thanks guys, I got new alt on way 120 amp lifetime warranty. I think that should handle the efan and compressors. Its really ready to drive outta the garage, just so muddy out and or raining. Got alot of things to address still. Hoping to get doors on with bearclaws this weekend. Have a few airleaks to fix (stays up for a few hours at the moment). Then onto alot of the random stuff. Still gotta wrap up the tach and speedo conversion, carpet, door glass, trim etc, seat, headliner, shifter, hitch, mount my taillights, fix rear fenders and coat them, and install hidden stereo and speakers after I get it inspected. At this rate, I'm shooting for the inspection for May. Still need to register it etc. So I got a little spending to do and time involved still.

lower50's 04-08-2015 12:07 AM

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How high can you get the running boards to clear speed bumps ect.?

99 to Life 04-08-2015 10:13 AM

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lower 50' I'll have to check on that for you. It can get up pretty decent though. I think my ride height is around 4" or so, I can prolly get up to 6 maybe 7". I dunno I'll have to measure that. I'll prolly try and keep 60psi in the fronts 2600 airlifts and 40ish in the back firestones, less if I can.

youngrodder 04-08-2015 10:40 AM

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99- looking really good. Keep at it.

Marc

Sim6 04-08-2015 09:16 PM

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Looks awesome!

99 to Life 04-12-2015 10:45 PM

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4-12 Moving alone at snails pace. Little things really dig into time, like getting hood on, and still have problems with my one spring. Got doors somewhat on, holy friggin bolts needed for that. Started on the bearclaws, somewhat dreading it as everything seems to give me alot of trouble on this build. I wanted to make my inside handles, outside turndown handles both work, all while having a keyless lock. I doubt I'm gonna get everything to work as planned so I may just keep outside handle stationary and put a button out there. Just sees like a tight squeeze to get two actuators in there to run the latch and lock. I wouldn't be so worried, had the doors not already been painted.

here is a pic of the custom tach I'm working on. it hasn't been working, (told you, everything is hard hence its name 49hartimes) so I bought a new tach, it works. then I hooked the conversion a tach back up, kept moving the needle around and finally go it to work. took it off today to put the custom face plate on and now it won't work again. I really don't want to cut up another new tach, but I guess I will if I got to. I dunno if I got a defective tach or if the needle is the issue.

here is a vid of some revs and air up and down. sound doesn't really do it justice. I only went up to 5k. Need some exhaust turndowns and couple more hangers to finish it up. Getting some gravel soon so I can build a ramp up to my garage as there is a good 8" of drop so I can't even drive outta the garage!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Z6...ature=youtu.be

oldman3 04-12-2015 11:17 PM

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99, sounds great, getting closer all the time...Jim

joedoh 04-12-2015 11:22 PM

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just outstanding!

Advanced Design 04-13-2015 07:49 AM

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Great job 99! Looks good, sounds good. Hope the latches don't give you too much trouble.

IWanna49 04-13-2015 04:52 PM

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Looks and sounds great!!

I really like the tach conversion. I really think there's a market for a reasonably priced setup like that. Looks outstanding! Be cool for some custom gauges to match....

99 to Life 04-13-2015 08:27 PM

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thanks guys, 49... I seen this conversion done before. but for some reason mine really isn't working. The tachs I have found on ebay for 30 bucks, so its a really cheap modification, just takes some time. I might just hack up my other tach and see if taking the needle off and on are making it not work. I thought maybe since I applied the new needled on, maybe its too much weight. I did have it working once. So maybe by fluke I have some bad connection. I plan on doing the same with a speedo, which I'd hate to have not work since they are way more money.

I want everything to work right. More gauges the better IMO.

oh, and I played around with my bear claw for a little today. So to use the plates it came with they are pretty much designed to weld in, which I was really hoping not to do. the picture above has the claw too forward by atleast half and inch or more. when I put the plate on, and shut the door, the plate hits the back end of the door jam, so it need to be conformed to the door like altman latches are, or... fitted into the door which would require welding. I guess I'll just bite the bullet, but rest assured I'm motivated to make my own latch plates and or kits for the future.

reaper71 04-14-2015 09:51 AM

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99...Since you don't want to weld anything to the door, how about you take the latch and fit it as needed and then make a cover (maybe 20 or 22 gauge) and put some flanges around it so it can be bolted to the door ( use some button head cap screws to fasten to door)

99 to Life 04-14-2015 12:03 PM

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reaper, the thinner gauge would def be easier to conform to the door, but not so sure on the longevity of it holding up. The plate supplied is prolly closer to 16g. It has to conform to the door exactly, thats why the altman kit works as a bolt on. That shape isn't the easiest to make out of thicker material. I'll take some more pics and do a more focused write up on the route I decide to take. I'm sure I could do it either way. One thing that is not a huge deal is, I already have to repaint a few things, like door jambs etc so touching up the bear claws wouldn't be the end of the world.

Coach529 04-14-2015 02:10 PM

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Everything looks great!!

lower50's 04-14-2015 03:47 PM

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That sounds GOOOOOD. Lookin GOOD. You'll be driving soon.
Why do a lot of builds change to the bear claw latches, what is the problem with the original latches?

99 to Life 04-14-2015 03:58 PM

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thanks guys, I'll get some better clips soon. as for changing to claws. The OG latches usually get worn out and don't stay closed all that well. Plus its a pain to get the (1 side only) door lock to work. I'm going with claws so it shuts smoother, stays shut around bends!! and will have an remote locking system.

reaper71 04-15-2015 09:18 AM

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X2 on the O.E. latches they were junk from the factory! Bear claws or jaws as some may call them are quieter and smoother to operate, and a ton safer! (you can also use nylon on the striker to make even quieter )

Mark...


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