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Advanced Design 08-23-2015 05:47 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Yep, I always enjoy the updates. Good to see the hot rod garage again.

Kim57 08-23-2015 09:19 PM

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Always ready for updates.
Kim

lower50's 08-24-2015 07:27 AM

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Yay

oldman3 08-24-2015 10:00 AM

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Kees, standing by an waiting...Jim

ptc 08-25-2015 04:25 PM

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Always good to see things taking shape.... welcome home and back at it!

ChuckDriver 08-25-2015 08:26 PM

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Updates please!

RockinKees 08-28-2015 04:06 PM

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Good to see there's some interest in building these trucks, besides myself :lol::lol:

So, slow starting this time, lot of other things on hands.
First I put some One Shot paint on the front emblems to see if it would look any better...I think so, yes.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2/P1260621.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...2/P1260627.JPG

So, now on to the truck.
I bolted the header on and looked what options I had to make a steering shaft.
After some trial and error I came up with this. This is the best routing for the shaft.
I set it up with some tools, so I could measure and see what I need.

I also think I have to use only one support bearing, just above the middle u-joint.
Please tell me if I need more!!
If you put it all in a drawing, you get this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2/IMG_2635.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2/IMG_2628.JPG

Between the column and the rack and pinion I have to use one double u-joint and two single u-joints. The double gives me an offset of 1" according to Borgeson. That 1" should be just enough.
When you look at the upper middle of the pic, you see where I need the double u-joint.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...2/IMG_2629.JPG

Frontview...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...2/IMG_2630.JPG

Ofcourse I will re-route the brakelines!

I also took the bedwood out.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...2/IMG_2631.JPG

The wood was in bad shape, but the main reason to get it out now, is that I now can put in the fuelline, make a new filler with new fillerdoor in the bedside, make new fuellines for the liquid gas (LPG) that I'm using as main fuel.
Also it's much easier now to make an exhaust, now that I see what space I have.
And to find out how the mount the towbar....

Kim57 08-28-2015 05:27 PM

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Emblems look good with the paint.
Good luck on routing the steering.
Kim

Nut Case 08-31-2015 01:41 AM

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Kees, Please teach me how to set front and rear ride height for your baby? Especially what could come out of the blue and take a huge bite out of my skinny arse. I've heard that the front irs should be moved forward in the wheel well to better hit center, 1" to 2" through your opinion in as well or what did you do? How does one set ride height, You are so very clever just hoping you will share. Many thanks in advance.

RockinKees 08-31-2015 08:59 AM

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Nut Case, if I remember well, you want Corvette stuff, right?

It's not the same...
But I did move the front IFS 3/4 of an inch forward. This measured with the front fender on, so you see whats happening. Don't know what to do with Corvette IFS.
For rideheight I did go with the stock height for Jaguar, measured under the IFS. Then you have the lower A-arms where they supposed to be, at the right angle. Then I set this under the framerails and measured rideheight of the truck itself, at the front. Bolt on the wheels you're using!
When that's all good, then you set the framerails level, front to back (or at the desired rake you want) and measure the IRS in. Also went with stock Jag measurements.
That way you know how high the diff has to be, so the lower A-arms sit at the right angle.

Jaguar measures the rideheight from the floor to the underside of the IFS, or at the back, to the diff.
You want to know how Corvette measures its rideheight, and then do the same as I did: measure, measure, measure.
When your done with your measuring, measure again!!

Hope this helps a bit?
And read back from page 7, there the fun begins ;)

tpimuncie 08-31-2015 09:28 AM

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Nice paint work! And engineering on linkage! I tried one shot paint on mine looks like my 5 year old painted them

reaper71 08-31-2015 12:37 PM

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Looking good Kees!!

Nut Case 09-01-2015 01:02 AM

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Kees: thanks for the information. Looking at your new posts, what a great idea to use 3/8 drive extensions to lay out the steering shaft. My dad taught me to measure twice and cut once, he also said, if you don't want your tools to drop on the floor and get damaged, put them on the floor in the first place. Great ideas, keep on keeping on. Nut Case

87Lowrider 09-01-2015 10:52 PM

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Nice build... good to see I'm not the only one putting a Jag IRS in... looks really nice! /Ken

RockinKees 09-03-2015 05:01 PM

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Todays update: Steering column....

As I have a early Chevy Van column, that's way too long I have to shorten it.
At first I was a bit scared to cut this up, because they are hard to find overhere.
There are plenty with ignition key in the column, but not these without it.

So, after some measurements I took my buddy the Grinder and gave it a shot :metal:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...2/IMG_2642.JPG

Where the tape is, that's the amount that has to go....

First: Mark where you cut:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...2/IMG_2644.JPG

Think once, cut twice ;)
Then cut through the lenght to get it out:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...2/IMG_2645.JPG

As you need space to weld the parts together again, I took another 3" out of the outer pipe. This is for welding the shifter pipe together again. That 3" is going to be welded back in, after welding the shifter pipe.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2/IMG_2647.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2/IMG_2649.JPG

Now I have all the parts at the right length, just have to weld them together. I have marked all pipes to get them at the same position again.
As you see in the last pic, the steering shaft only needs shortening, no welding needed there!

The column needs to be secured at the floor, so I made this clamp out of a piece of an exhaust. I put it on the column before I weld everything.
When I bolt the column in the truck, I make a floorpiece that's going to be welded on the clamp and bolted to the floor. Easy does it :lol::lol:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2/IMG_2650.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...2/IMG_2651.JPG


What the heck was I afraid of?? Didn't know it was that easy!!

Kim57 09-03-2015 05:19 PM

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Nice mods on the column.
Kim

RockinKees 09-03-2015 05:31 PM

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Thanks Kim!!

oldman3 09-03-2015 06:05 PM

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Kees, nice job on the column, looked like a seasoned pro doing the work...Jim

ChuckDriver 09-03-2015 10:08 PM

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Nice work!

Advanced Design 09-03-2015 11:16 PM

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Yep, you made that look easy!

RockinKees 09-04-2015 11:57 AM

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Finished welding the column.

Shifter pipe:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...2/P1260629.JPG

The 3" pieces going back:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2/P1260631.JPG

And the last piece (you can see the mark I made to get the parts inline):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...2/P1260633.JPG

And finished it looks like this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...2/P1260634.JPG

I now have a column build to my personal specs, what else do you need :lol:
It was easier than I thought, now comes the connection to the rack and pinion....

Put the column in place to see if I got it right, and yes, excactly what I wanted!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...2/P1260636.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...2/P1260637.JPG

Again, one item off the list :metal:

Katrina/10 09-04-2015 12:08 PM

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Nice work, you can grind a couple of flat spots on the end of the shaft to attach a u-joint.

RockinKees 09-04-2015 12:15 PM

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Yes Gary, that was exactly the plan.
I may have to shorten the end a bit, we'll see when we have the parts...

Kim57 09-04-2015 12:37 PM

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Came out real nice.
Kim

59chev 09-04-2015 12:50 PM

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Thanks for the pics on shortening the column. I will need to do the same thing with the van column I plan to put in my truck.Your pics where the ah.. ha.. moment I needed.

RockinKees 09-04-2015 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 59chev (Post 7298334)
Thanks for the pics on shortening the column. I will need to do the same thing with the van column I plan to put in my truck.Your pics where the ah.. ha.. moment I needed.

You're welcome!!

Thanks again Kim!

ChuckDriver 09-04-2015 04:09 PM

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Nice work!

Mine is also a shortened van column and I machined it for the Double-D joint. I also modified the shift arm so the shift rod would clear the brake pedal!

RockinKees 09-04-2015 05:07 PM

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That's good looking Chuckdriver!

I've made a swingpedal so I don't have to modify the shiftarm ;)

OrrieG 09-05-2015 04:16 PM

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Just a heads up. On GM for the shift indicator to match the transmission the distance from the center line of the column shaft to the linkage hole needs to be the same as the center line of the trans shift shaft to shift rod linkage hole. I spent some time on trial and error before I found a link with that nugget of information. So if you lengthened the one on the column you will need to do the same to the trans shaft lever.

RockinKees 09-05-2015 04:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OrrieG (Post 7299405)
Just a heads up. On GM for the shift indicator to match the transmission the distance from the center line of the column shaft to the linkage hole needs to be the same as the center line of the trans shift shaft to shift rod linkage hole. I spent some time on trial and error before I found a link with that nugget of information. So if you lengthened the one on the column you will need to do the same to the trans shaft lever.

THAT is some good info!!
Thanks OrrieG!!

This probably saves me a lot of headaches :thumbs:

rusty76 09-06-2015 08:08 PM

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Cool truck. Late to the build but I likes it.

RockinKees 09-07-2015 03:02 PM

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Thanks Rusty76!

I've ordered the parts for the steering so that have to wait a few weeks.

Been thinking what to do with the towbar. Did a small mock up to see if it would fit:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2/P1260638.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2/P1260640.JPG

Well it fits, but it's very thight. I also want the fueltank in that spot.
The towbar is from a '98 Trialblazer, and is just a little too wide.

I modified the towbar so it fits the framerails. I now can bolt it right under.
Ground off the original "ears" and made my own. Also welded in a gusset, that's being used as the rear mount of the fueltank. The front of the tank is bolted to the crossmember.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...2/P1260641.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...2/P1260643.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...2/P1260642.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2/P1260644.JPG

And in primer, tommorow it's all black :metal:
Next is mounting the fueltank and make the fuelline.
Then think about the fuelfiller, I want it at the rightside of the bed...
Lots to do!

Steve-W 09-07-2015 06:01 PM

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Kees, your craftmanship is truely inspirational!

55 Chevy Dave 09-07-2015 06:38 PM

Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Great build you have going here, Kees.

I can see that I am going to need to go through all 24 pages!

Kim57 09-08-2015 08:42 AM

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You're doing a great job on all the fab work.
Kim

lower50's 09-08-2015 03:27 PM

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Nice job on the column. The hitch will be nice.

ptc 09-08-2015 05:16 PM

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Nice Hitch work you did there!!! coming right along.....

reaper71 09-09-2015 09:44 AM

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Looking real good Kees!!

RockinKees 09-11-2015 03:10 PM

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Thanks guys!!

Small update...
Due to some physical problems nothing much is done.
But...fueltank is in, fuelline is in :metal:

Went ahead with the doorlocks again just before the body breakdown ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2/P1260647.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...2/P1260648.JPG

I was filling the pillar to get it nice and clean before I had to stop. You see what this is going to look like when finished I think.
I have to use modern mathmatics to get the stock doorhandle work with the BMW doorlocks. I think I know what to make for this....

As I was at home, I took the ventwindow apart to put new weatherstriping in there.

As I took it out of the truck:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...2/P1260649.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2/P1260650.JPG

Apart and ready for primer and paint:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...2/P1260651.JPG

Primered and painted and baking in the sun:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...2/P1260654.JPG

I looked at U-tube to see what was the easiest way to put the weatherstriping in, and saw I was missing a few washers. One that was needed for mounting the spring at the right tension was not there, so I made one:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...2/P1260655.JPG

Put the new weatherstriping in, bolted all together and I have a "new" good looking vent window again :metal:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2/P1260656.JPG

The list gets shorter and shorter :bann:

Kim57 09-11-2015 11:59 PM

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Nice work on the vent.
Hope you feel better.
Kim


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