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68GMCCustom 08-25-2010 10:55 PM

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wow.....guess I'll be waiting a bit longer for paint!

BigSky71 08-26-2010 12:53 AM

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Thank you for the detailed write up on the body shop hunt and selection process. Also congratulations on finding a shop that will let you do some of the work during the process, that imo is a tall order.

I look forward to the updates!

Fwiw, in my corner of NW Montana I can think of only a few "one man body shops" that would even consider the type of arrangement you have worked out. I hope all goes smoothly and can't wait to see your truck in paint.

Bruce88 09-02-2010 06:37 PM

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Not a lot of difference that I can tell
The teardown continues and building a list of parts I need to order

As I remove all the inner parts from the old 72 doors, I found that the previous owner had tried to covert the inner panel to a 67-71 metal door panel and armrest from some other vehicle. I also have some doors from a 70 that I picked up a number of years ago for parts (the inner side of the door shell was hacked up real bad and the outer skin had many holes).

I’m going to put the 4 door shells up in the parts section for free to any one in my area that wants to pick them up and wants to build their welding and metal working skills. They definitely need work to bring them back from the recycle scrap metal but it can be done and I think the price is right (free) (smile). Hears the link if your interested http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=419593

The only difference that I found between the 67-71 door shells and the 72 door shell is the screw up by the vent window and how the inside panel is attached to the door. The internal parts have some differences manly relating to the inside panel that is being used.

After disassembling 4 doors I found it an advantage in having some special tools that make the job easer. An impact gun with a #3 phillips tip makes it easy to remove the tight screws, just lean into it to seat the tip, a short blast and the screws will loosen up with out stripping the head. And the infamous door handle removal tool. Not to say it can’t be done with out them it’s just less frustrating, time consuming and help prevent damaged screw heads that would need to be drilled out.

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Planning on making the inside door panel a flat 67-71 stile door panel with a custom cover that will match my seats material. Some of the internal parts will have to be replaced to make it look right and others rebuilt.

My vent window frame is rusted thru in some spots and will be rebuilding the 70 door vent window. Found a good (how to) on this forum for rebuilding the vent window (Hears the link if your interested) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=351471

All the 67-72 vent window assemblies can be used in any of the doors for those years. Some differences that can be found, clear or tinted glass, painted or chromed frames, and different handles for the vent window (67 handle attached to the window frame and 68-72 handle attached thru a hole in the glass and possibly two different style handles).

Latch control differences, the 68-71 are shorter than the 72 and are interchangeable depending on what door panel you’re using. The 67 I’m not sure what the difference is (possibly the handle used). Side note, all the Latch Controls that I have, have broken return springs (another item that Ill need to order).

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Window regulator differences, the 67-71 are shorter than the 72 and are interchangeable depending on what door panel you’re using.

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All the rest of the door internal parts appear to be the same on the 67-72 truck models.

Generated a door panel design for the cover over the 67-71 steel panels that I have. Took the design down to the upholstery shop to be made out of the same material as the seats (the shop said no problem to make the door panels). The picture below is not a match to the fabric on the seats just a pattern design, if your interested what the material will look like see (post #25) on this build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318544 . Door panels should be back in a few weeks.

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I’m looking forward to the interior being installed, but probably not my cat she seams to like the seats as a perfect place for a nap (smile). Of course this will be some time down the road after body and paint.

Body and paint update, parts are expected back in the shop on 3 Sep from media blasting, it’s moving forward

Enjoy your build

VA72C10 09-02-2010 07:20 PM

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Great info as usual....glad the body work seems to be moving along...hope the parts come back good and progress keeps up!

msgross 09-02-2010 07:48 PM

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1968 Dark Green #505... mine was repainted once though... I'm thinking of going with 1969 Fathom Green though.

glimmertwin01 09-02-2010 08:00 PM

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nice job as always Bruce...

mcbassin 09-02-2010 11:27 PM

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Thanks for the detailed shop decision process. This is something that many of us have never been through or understand. Love all the pictures and descriptions of all the parts. Your truck will be show quality when done, thanks for being modest about it (smile)

Bruce88 09-16-2010 02:33 PM

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Best laid plans of mice and men
O did I mention mother natures input too (smile)

The metal is back in the body and paint shop from the media blaster, with about a week delay in finding a weather window to keep it out of the rain (it’s that time of year around hear where the weather plays it’s part in planning).

This is where most of the custom body and paint shops start with a body off project to find all the cancer and prior repairs. Then it will be going into epoxy primer to prevent flash rust and creating any additional rust problems during the time it will be worked on.

All the prior inspection and rework in cutting out and replacing all the rusted metal is paying off. All the parts look to be in good shape no unexpected rework was found by me. Yes there’s plenty of small dings/dents that will need to be addressed but all in all it looks pretty good.

In the last picture you might notice that some of my parts are hanging out with a 53 – 55 Corvette body in the shop. It’s always nice to see that the shop has a wide diversity in handling the standard rework to handling the more unusual (smile)

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I haven’t been standing around just praying to the body and paint gods hoping all will work out good. OK there was a week off for a break, R & R (smile). Been working on the internal door parts, rebuilding and reconditioning and will post that progress later.

Enjoy your build

msgross 09-16-2010 03:47 PM

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I love freshly blasted metal... like new again.

VA72C10 09-17-2010 02:24 AM

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looks to all be in excellent condition....look forward to the next progress update

dmcnga 09-23-2010 01:22 PM

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Just finished my restoration...Aren't rocker panels fun?;) Your truck is going to look great - congratulations! I put my '72 C-10 back to all stock, including rebuilding the original L6 250CI engine.

Can't wait to see yours when it is done!

Bruce88 09-23-2010 08:27 PM

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Another step forward, it’s moving on
Quick update on the body and paint

The primer been applied and tomorrow I’m going down to do the seam sealing. Looks pretty good in the primer even with none of the body filler or dent pulling done. At least it’s all one color now (smile).

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Enjoy your build

v502 09-23-2010 08:46 PM

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Looking good. What color are painting the truck?

VA72C10 09-23-2010 08:53 PM

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looks AWESOME!!!!

Bruce88 09-23-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by v502 (Post 4206471)
Looking good. What color are painting the truck?

GM 505 Dark Green, A stock fleet color for this year truck

mcbassin 09-23-2010 10:49 PM

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Great progress! It's gonna be so nice!

my67chevytruck 09-24-2010 07:57 AM

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looking good Bruce!

splehigh 09-24-2010 09:58 AM

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Looking good!!!

chevytruckluver 09-24-2010 10:26 PM

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Looking good Bruce
Is that an epoxy primer/sealer?

travlinman 09-24-2010 11:38 PM

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big side mirrors and cab lights... u going to keep them ?

Bruce88 09-25-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chevytruckluver (Post 4208314)
Looking good Bruce
Is that an epoxy primer/sealer?

Yes it’s a epoxy primer/sealer I don’t know what brand, it’s one the body shop uses. Probably a commercial product not available to the public. I just spent 6 hours down at the shop seam sealing and was using a two part commercial seam sealer that I did not recognize by name and said it was not for sale to the public.

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Originally Posted by travlinman (Post 4208466)
big side mirrors and cab lights... u going to keep them ?

You’re going to have to ask msgross it’s his truck in the picture (smile). It does have the GM 505 dark green paint color on it that I will be using on my truck.

70LonghornCST 09-25-2010 12:31 AM

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Very nice work. Very motivating.

y5mgisi 09-25-2010 01:37 AM

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Thank you for doing this build and being so detailed about what you are doing! We all really appreciate it! I really like your ideas too!

Bruce88 09-28-2010 05:38 AM

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Decided to take the challenge
Definitely time consuming and could have a less than desirable outcome from what I’ve heard.

Rebuilding the vent window with new seals and repainting

After disassembly and repainting the parts that could be time consuming in it self, I came up with some tips that might help you with rebuilding the vent window yourself if you want to take the challenge. There is a good (how too) on this forum that I recommend to read in rebuilding the vent window http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=351471 (my tips are a minor addition to this how too, possibly to make it a little easer).

Installing the rivets in the frame and new seal are probably the hardest task. When the vent window was assembled in the factory it was set in a tool/jig and they used a rivet squeeze to install the rivets. Not very practical for a home shop, but it can be done manually with some simple tools.

The window frame and the new seals have to be held in place before installing the rivets (glass and its frame not installed at this time). I used some cleko’s to accomplish this. One small problem was that my cleko’s are for 1/8 DIA holes and will not hold in the 5/32 DIA holes in the frame & seal. A simple solution was to use a small washer with a 1/8 DIA hole on the end of the cleko to hold the parts together.

The rivet heads are installed in the channel from the factory with the driven/clinched end on the seal side. With the rivet installed in this manor it’s hard to drive the rivet with the manual setting tool with the frame in the way. I installed the rivet head on the seal side and used a ¼ inch DIA rod held in a vise to backup the head and drive the other end with the manual setting tool in the channel.

Not many pictures included in this post, I think the above (how too) has a good set of picture showing the steps/process for rebuilding a vent window. Plus my hands where busy holding things, it’s definitely a two man job (smile).

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The new parts that I’m going to be using in the door area
Note not all parts listed are seen in the pictures, possibly on a different post (smile)

03-835 Vent Rivet Tool by Classic Parts

03-825 Vent Assembly Rivets by Classic Parts

03-831 Vent Pivot Rivets by Classic Parts

18-731 Window Regulator-Left 67-71 by Classic Parts

18-732 Window Regulator-Right 67-71 by Classic Parts

18-06 Inside Door Handle 67-72 by Classic Parts

18-16 Inside Window Handle-Black Knob 67-76 by Classic Parts

18-45 Inside Handle Escutcheon-Steel 67-71 black by Classic Parts

18-835 Door Control-Left 68-71 by Classic Parts

18-836 Door Control-Right 68-71 by Classic Parts

19-951 Door Hole Plug 60-72 by Classic Parts

18-893 Door Control Rod Retainer Clips 67-72 by Classic Parts

19-645 Arm Rest-Black 69-71 by Classic Parts

38-5621 Window Channel Kit (window felt & channel seal) by LMC

38-6522 Door Handle Outside LH by LMC

38-6523 Door Handle Outside RH by LMC

36-0690 Door Lock Set W/Keys by LMC

38-5934 Vent Window Seal Kit by LMC

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After you rebuild a vent window you might find that it’s less time consuming and easer to just by a complete vent window assembly. It’s a little bit tricky but it can be rebuilt.

Enjoy your build

VA72C10 09-28-2010 08:38 AM

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Man Bruce, this build gets better and better. The pictures with writeups and/or links to them make this thread all that's needed when building the truck :chevy: Who needs a factory assembly manual ;)


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