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I would pay someone to help me clean my garage. I have part all over the place and no place to put them. I can weight for my frame to get power coated so I can start building my truck. The seat looks great.
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SR -- I installed headers on my K10 only to have my new plug wires touch the headers. OOPPSS needing a way to neatly route my wires I came across this YouTube video that worked very well for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWO1Oes7oJw
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So i feel that for me to be effective at any body work i really need to get a small media blaster and a better compressor, looking at a minimum 60 Gal but i know i'd be happier if i got a 80 Gal, looking at my breaker box tho i'm pretty much full up, i'm going to have to find an electrician and probably add a sub panel to make it happen...
One question i have on compressors is the amp requirement for the breaker, some need a 40, some go clear up to 80, i have no idea what a max amperage would be for a residential house, ie, should i stat at 50 max? Been looking at brands like Quincy, Eaton, BelAir ect for compressors. For the media blaster i'm looking at The small Eastwood unit. some ideas below. http://answers.northerntool.com/answ.../questions.htm http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...ssor/p857.html http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p4841.html http://www.eastwood.com/speed-blast-...d-blaster.html http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-50l...e-blaster.html |
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Those Quincy air compressors are SWEET good luck on the decisions
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Another good choice in compressors is Champion. not to confuse the issue more, but if you want another choice... haha
residential service amperage can vary based on the age of the home i think. i bet you have 100A service at least. i am not super proficient with household electricity. when i had a buddy install the 230v compressor and welder circuits in my garage, he was able to use unfilled breaker slots in my panel. i also had a higher amperage 120 circuit added for plug ins for higher amp draw tools. my house had 150A service, but it is relatively new construction. |
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the size of the compressor take does not mean it has more air. it has to do with the pump and the volume of air it can produce. you might find it cost effective to run 2 compressors instead of buying 1 expensive one. I'm running a Harbor Freight pump on my compressor with a sandblasting pot it does ok for what it is. |
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The hand held is ok for a spot hear and there. the 50 lbs pot I think you will find your self using most of the time. They are messy the pot will trash and area about 30 ft around what you are blasting. if you blast in side a make shift booth you will find your self breathing a lot of dust. a good mask, hood, long sleeve shirt and glove will help as well.
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Per the blaster your probably correct on the 50lb pot, but i will try the smaller one first, i'm not wanting to blast the entire truck. Plus having a better compressor i can use my air tools like intended. |
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I've been pretty happy with this Home Depot compressor. Wired it and my mig welder/plasma with 10/2 wire using 30 amp double pole breakers. Have not had any issues running this stuff. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...2&postcount=11
Got my little Harbor Freight 50lb sand blaster working pretty good with these mods. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...9&postcount=14 Suggest you keep the media dry and sifted with window screen or it will clog. Smaller jobs I take to a buddies blast cabinet, real big jobs we farm out. Medium jobs we do in the grandkids sandbox. |
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Thanks for the info Ryan, my house was built in 74 if i remember correctly, according to my cousens hubby who is a contractor all the houses built back then are way out of code by todays standards. My unfilled slots went to the kitchen remodel lighting, 2 more outlets in the garage and the extra 220V plug for my welder, plus all the double switches used to all be singles. |
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I remember reading your post about your pot, i was actually trying to find some blast pot mods a few weeks back. hey now there on my thread... kinda.. :) |
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Yes the 2 switches is a double pole breaker but wired for your 220V compressor or a welder outlet. Here's a pic of my garage breaker panel. Upper right is for a 220v welder outlet and then one below feeds a 220v on/off switch that powers my hard wired compressor. The rest are all wired for 110V. |
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7dee2. I wish i had that many open slots in my panel!
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I'm thinking you could if you upgrade your existing or install a secondary panel (maybe in the garage) like you mentioned earlier. My house panel looks like yours and is chucked full!
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Still nobody has called me back..
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Hey guys i need some more advice, i have been looking at vertical 80 gallon compressors, the ones that are available locally as well as others places that offer free shipping via truck with a lift gate but the driver is not required to have to help unload it off the gate..
So let say you were to order one and have it delivered, they drop it to the foot of the driveway, your by yourself with none of your buddy's are avalible because they are at work, how would you get it moved up the driveway and into the garage? Also if i was able to go pick one up and bring it home is it ok to lay it on its side for transport? I have no idea if they are transported upright or on the side, pallet or crate.. |
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No answers from my emails to any electrical place so I'll have to start calling soon, didn't wanna mess with that today.
Black Friday, we didn't wanna get all intertwined with the masses but i did decide to check out the new Tractor Supply store close by to see if they had the 80 Gallon Ingersol in stock, they had 3 of them on the floor, i wanted to see in person how heavy they felt on the pallet, i feel confidant i could rent a heavy duty lift truck with the tilt out wheels and move it by myself if nessasary http://www.buncerental.com/equipment...6&key=235-1270 http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...pressor-80-gal The Ingersol is not my first choice but the price it sure tempting but i want a lifetime purchase, not sure this one will last, it states consumer grade. I have been looking at this Quincy at Compressors direct for $1999.99 but the same one is available at Lowes for $1987, i'd have to pay tax but if i got the extended protection plan at least i'd be dealing locally. http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...ssor/p856.html http://www.lowes.com/pd_470447-56469...y%20Compressor Here's the Compressors direct webpage showing the 5hp 2 stage 80 gal compressors, kinda hard to decide... I think i like the Quincy and Belair about the same, but just not sure about the Campbell Hausfeld, if you scroll back you'll find a Jenny, FS-Curtis and EMAX http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...tts=9&lrqshp=4 http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p3798.html http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p3832.html http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p9748.html One last one i was looking at is the Eaton by Polar Air. http://www.eatoncompressor.com/catal...47/9379899.htm Too many choices, i want narrow and taller to take up less floor space, prefer a long life cast iron pump. I also have to call a couple of the MFGR's and find out the required breaker so i can consult with an electrician, i have no idea what the amperage limit is on a house breaker. I have been saving for this purchase for a year now, ready to take the plunge but want to be sure that my house electric service can handle it so i don't order and have delivered a bad choice. . . . . . |
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I have an ancient 5HP Sears 80 gal. compressor I've moved from house to house over the years. Back when I first bought it, I had an electrician wire it up for me and I've done it myself ever since. A 50 amp breaker that fits the panel and 8 gauge wire is what he used and I have too. I also piggyback my mill, TIG and MIG welders on the same circuit. Over the years, I've never, ever tripped the breaker ...not even once. The fact is, in a one horse operation like I run, it's very rare that I have two machines running off the same circuit at the same time. But even when that happens, it causes no grief. By all means, check with a local electrician, but I wouldn't sweat whether the panel can handle it. You'd have to have every single gizmo and light on in the house (all pulling their max amp draw) to overload a 100 amp service box. The chances of that happening are nil. From what I saw, your main issue is that there's currently no more room in the box for a new circuit. It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like you have several choices. 1. Wire in a separate breaker box with space for the compressor and other future expansion. 2. Replace four of the 110V breakers with two of the double circuit style. That would free up enough room to slip in another 220V breaker in the existing panel. 3. You appear to have a number of 220V circuits in your panel. Perhaps you could combine a couple of low usage circuits to free up a slot for the compressor. Again, a certified electrician can advise you if any of these options will work for you ...and maybe even suggest other alternatives. All the compressors look good to me. When it comes to this sort of decision where personal experience is minimal, I tend to have a herd mentality. I'd stick with the best sellers that fit my budget. |
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Well, i almost pulled the triger on an 80 Gal compressor thru Air Compressors Direct last night, then i decided to email and ask about the size of the freight truck, is it a full sized semi with a 60' trailer or is it a box van about 2-3 Ton..... He said today its a semi. That kinda throws a curve ball in my plans as i don't think a full sized semi can make it down my street.
Guess i'll have to find on locally, probably the Quincy which i can get thru Lowes, i know their delivery truck is a box van with a lift gate. I think the only other option might be to order one from a company in Seattle, then drive up and pick it up, but i have been advised not to lay the compressors on their side, that will mean I'd have to pull the compressor unit and motor and lay the tank down in the back of my truck. |
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The quincy is a good unit and has the thickest frame I've seen. My brother has had their 4cyl one for a couple years and no issues. I'd get one with the Baldor motor like his.
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NONHOG, wanted to say thanks on the lead, David will be out tomorrow to figure out what i need done.
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I have a friend at work who's friend that runs a sand blasting supply business, apparently he is an authorized retailer of compressors too, he is also checking into what he can offer me, but that still comes down to i would need it delivered on a truck with a lift gate, if his options are not what i need then I'm heading to Lowe's. |
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Ha Swamp ray the larger tank won't gain you a thing sandblasting or using air tools. it's all about air pressure and volume from the pump. you wont gain anything getting a 80 tank. I have a 40 gallon tank on mine but the pump is just not quite enough to keep up with the demand of my sand blaster. it works for smaller parts I did my inner fender it took 2 hour to blast both side the under side had under coat witch is tough to get off. Get a good pump that can put out 13 to 15 cfm. my compressor only put out 10 CFM at 90 psi.
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