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Dieselwrencher 02-27-2012 06:10 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 5213721)
I have never really liked the clearance lights, but those actually look pretty cool on there! Looking good Ryan, keep at it! Do you have an up close picture of the lights?

I can get some close ups for you.

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series (Post 5215461)
keep it up Ryan! shes gonna be an orange on orange beauty!

Thanks buddy!

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Originally Posted by BlackhillsHD (Post 5215955)
Now it just needs a big set of chrome air horns up there. :metal:

Not going to happen!

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Originally Posted by 72-c20 (Post 5215981)
yeah!!!!! :sumo:


Dieselwrencher 02-27-2012 06:12 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by watahyahknow (Post 5216038)
dont forget the cb antenna's on the mirrors and stacks in the bed

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Originally Posted by woodwright (Post 5216077)
Or a big pair of rubber balls hanging from the hitch. Now that would be classy.

Let's get this straight, I like the cab lights. If you don't, simply don't look at this thread anymore. I also like stacks on certain trucks so if that was a slam to trucks with stacks, you failed. The rubber balls is a definite hell no! Same with hick sticks!

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Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 5216166)
:lol:That started at the top and quicky went to the bottom:lol:

Yes it did!

1985-GMC 02-27-2012 06:22 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I'll just say that I love the truck! I may not be a big fan of the cab lights but its not my truck so that minor detail doesn't really matter to me. Keep on with all the great work ryan!

wutnxt 02-27-2012 06:23 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Dude......

For what it's worth dude....it's looking great ...and you can tow my truck behind yours anyday....lol. You have me thinking of building some kinda torque monster to pull my trailer and prostreet truck now. Keep up the good work your making progress and it's looooooooooooking good.

Dieselwrencher 02-27-2012 06:36 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC (Post 5216588)
I'll just say that I love the truck! I may not be a big fan of the cab lights but its not my truck so that minor detail doesn't really matter to me. Keep on with all the great work ryan!

I hear that. I sat the fire hat style on it and decided they didn't look right to me because they're every where. :lol:

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Originally Posted by wutnxt (Post 5216591)
Dude......

For what it's worth dude....it's looking great ...and you can tow my truck behind yours anyday....lol. You have me thinking of building some kinda torque monster to pull my trailer and prostreet truck now. Keep up the good work your making progress and it's looooooooooooking good.

Thanks. I did manage to get the RH door assembly under way today. Got the regulator cleaned and lubed, got the new to it window installed, put the new door handle gaskets on and polishedthe door handles. I was at my local chevy parts guy's place today and I almost purchased new door handles. But every trip there nets me at least $100-$200 each time for small stuff. So I decided to lay low with these and live with them until later on. I had to pick up new felt track for the vent windows. I'll get those installed and take pics tomorrow.

BlackhillsHD 02-27-2012 07:00 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by BlackhillsHD (Post 5215955)
Now it just needs a big set of chrome air horns up there. :metal:

I didn't mean any disrespect towards your build. Just thought it would go with the whole diesel theme. Very nice work so far, been following this build since I got on here.

Dieselwrencher 02-27-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by BlackhillsHD (Post 5216665)
I didn't mean any disrespect towards your build. Just thought it would go with the whole diesel theme. Very nice work so far, been following this build since I got on here.

I didn't think you did man, it's all good. :lol:

watahyahknow 02-28-2012 01:10 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
was just janking the chain a bit ..... if you look at the little avatar you see the type of wheels i have for my truck...... there 22,5 inch truckwheels with are machined to take 22 inch car tires and fit 8 lug hubs with adapters
if you would use the stock trailerrims and tires and a set of those adapters on youre truck the would go for a loooooooong time untill there worn , only thing there huge
http://image.sporttruck.com/f/964032..._left_tire.jpg

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 04:17 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Those would look cool, but I'm afraid they're out of my bidget for a while. I plan on some aluminum wheels, but first I want to get it running and driving. I still have a couple big ticket items to purchase before I can get it running.

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 04:26 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Progress pics, not much but some. :lol: RH door is almost done. Let me tell you, some of this weatherstripping stuff should come with some instructions. I got it figured out, but boy was it nerve wracking cutting new parts. :) Thanks again Leon for the help on this! I think i'll be buying some other lock rod covers. I'm not real keen on how high these I got sit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0333.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0334.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0335-1.jpg

Here are some pics of the rock guard on the rocker/cab corner.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0339-2.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0340-1.jpg

Matt, here's a side shot of the clearance lights.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0338-2.jpg

Today I had a pleasant surprise waiting for me................................................. My transmission is back already! I did some trading with my friend that I get my manual trans parts from, and they did a super fast job. It's officially now a 98 up NV4500HD. Has all the upgrades, along with a billet big input shaft, and cast iron tail housing. now I'll have to decide what hydros I want to run, and get my clutch here.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0336-1.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...IMG_0337-1.jpg

lowrollin70gmc 02-28-2012 05:22 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
The rocker guard looks nice, can barely tell it's there. I'm digging the tranny too, it's too much fun to hammer on a cummins with a stick!

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 05:36 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by lowrollin70gmc (Post 5218984)
The rocker guard looks nice, can barely tell it's there. I'm digging the tranny too, it's too much fun to hammer on a cummins with a stick!

Thanks! Yes it is. Although, the manuals are fun, the autos are by far the most fun to drive! the last compound turbo truck we built had a built 47re in it and that was a blast to drive. That's why I was going to put a 47RH in this truck. But seeing how I needed to come up with a new ride for my wife, the 47RH was used in her truck instead. But, I can live with a dual disc and a NV4500 if I have to. :lol: Here comes 3rd gear burn outs!:devil:

Its ShowTime!! 02-28-2012 05:50 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
what rear end and front end are you using?? im building my 88 and i wanna run 52's but i dont kno what will hold up!! any suggestions:smoke:

6lcummins 02-28-2012 06:47 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Its ShowTime!! (Post 5219039)
what rear end and front end are you using?? im building my 88 and i wanna run 52's but i dont kno what will hold up!! any suggestions:smoke:

He has a D80 out of a 98-01 Dodge and a D60 out of a 1988 V30.

Ry, do we have a 4k in my 160???

mknittle 02-28-2012 09:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I may have to get a set of those cab lights! It's going to be a real nice truck! Reading your thread has helped get me started on mine.

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 09:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks. Hopefully one of these days it will be able to move under it's own power. :lol:

6lcummins 02-28-2012 10:15 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 5219437)
I may have to get a set of those cab lights! It's going to be a real nice truck! Reading your thread has helped get me started on mine.

I may know someone that can help ya get em too...:agree:

ryanroo 02-28-2012 10:49 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
If i could afford the upgrades for an auto i would have that too. instead i am shooting for a six speed if one pops up. if not ill go with the 4500. i just dont like the 3-4 gear split in the 5ers.

looking good

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 11:25 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5219624)
If i could afford the upgrades for an auto i would have that too. instead i am shooting for a six speed if one pops up. if not ill go with the 4500. i just dont like the 3-4 gear split in the 5ers.

looking good

Yeah, I have all the goodies except billet hard parts for the 47RH for the 76. It'll be a stout trans for sure. On the NV4500, it really isn't that bad with 300-350hp. Try a ZF5 behind a cummins and then let's talk 3-4 gear split. :lol:

6lcummins 02-28-2012 11:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5219624)
If i could afford the upgrades for an auto i would have that too. instead i am shooting for a six speed if one pops up. if not ill go with the 4500. i just dont like the 3-4 gear split in the 5ers.

looking good

If you run a P7100 and a 4K kit you hardly notice the 3-4 issue people complain about.

Dieselwrencher 02-28-2012 11:33 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by 6lcummins (Post 5219750)
If you run a P7100 and a 4K kit you hardly notice the 3-4 issue people complain about.

And, if you have power, you hardly notice it. :lol:

ryanroo 02-29-2012 12:12 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
the only 4500 truck i have driven was a vp44 24v with mild chippage. it sucked with a loaded stock trailer. i am glad to hear the word of experience though. that makes the takeout nv4500 i saw on CL look alot more appealing. i know a 4500 will fit in the tranny tunnel. i also know that the 5600s are huge beasts that take up a boatload of room and unlike the 4500s i cant lift it in by myself with no jack.

6lcummins 02-29-2012 01:26 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5219868)
the only 4500 truck i have driven was a vp44 24v with mild chippage. it sucked with a loaded stock trailer. i am glad to hear the word of experience though. that makes the takeout nv4500 i saw on CL look alot more appealing. i know a 4500 will fit in the tranny tunnel. i also know that the 5600s are huge beasts that take up a boatload of room and unlike the 4500s i cant lift it in by myself with no jack.

And a VP44 isn't a good testament to the rpm range of a 4500 or power. Swing by in lat April and early May and you can ride in 2 NV4500 Cummins and see what the "gap" really is. And the fact that the NV5600 is 2800-3300 to fix if there are issues. Plus the 3rd and 4th gear synchro issues, and the gear gap in them too.

jbclassix 02-29-2012 01:29 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I need to study up on the 6BT... I'm lost ;)

Dieselwrencher 02-29-2012 03:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Here in the next few weeks I might have this truck running. If it happens, I'll post vids of the drive with a NV4500.

lowrollin70gmc 02-29-2012 04:06 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
You get that beauty driving and I'll be jealous and thinking of mine sitting back in SoDak.

You can head up there and finish mine up if you need to, the keys are in the house.;)

Dieselwrencher 02-29-2012 04:11 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by lowrollin70gmc (Post 5220997)
You get that beauty driving and I'll be jealous and thinking of mine sitting back in SoDak.

You can head up there and finish mine up if you need to, the keys are in the house.;)

:lol: You won't have to worry about that. It'd be middle of the summer before I could get there. The list of things to do keeps growing. :ito:

Vintage Windmills 02-29-2012 05:25 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Ryan, looking like good progess was made! Did he spray the bed and fenders, hood etc. or do they still need paint?

Dieselwrencher 02-29-2012 06:41 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills (Post 5221149)
Ryan, looking like good progess was made! Did he spray the bed and fenders, hood etc. or do they still need paint?

The bottom of the hood was the only other thing that has been painted so far. He claims he's ready to paint the front fenders, hood, and cowl now. He doesn't want the bed until the front half is done. He also said he painted the core support as well. I have to wait to gather some more money to go buy paint so it can be knocked over, I mean applied to my parts. :smoke:

1968vetL-71 02-29-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Truck looks great Ryan. Glad too see ya got some color on it!!! Won't be long now.

mknittle 02-29-2012 08:39 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5221011)
:lol: You won't have to worry about that. It'd be middle of the summer before I could get there. The list of things to do keeps growing. :ito:

I call that the snowball effect, the farther it goes the bigger it gets!

ryanroo 02-29-2012 11:22 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by 6lcummins (Post 5220054)
And a VP44 isn't a good testament to the rpm range of a 4500 or power. Swing by in lat April and early May and you can ride in 2 NV4500 Cummins and see what the "gap" really is. And the fact that the NV5600 is 2800-3300 to fix if there are issues. Plus the 3rd and 4th gear synchro issues, and the gear gap in them too.

fortunately i think outside of a quick shot out of Sioux Falls, SD at the end of next month i will not be anywhere near iowa this year. but plans do change. find me a good p-pump 12v at a decent price an i may hitch on out there. as for the cost of repair... i have no fear of taking things apart so long as the parts themselves dont cost an armload. since our exchange last night i have decided that 4500s dont hurt my feelings anymore and i will probably go that route unless the 6er just happens at the right time/price. mostly i just need the damn engine. i crave fabwork. all this paint stripping is driveing me nuts

looking forward to a bad air video

ryan

6lcummins 03-01-2012 03:44 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5221909)
fortunately i think outside of a quick shot out of Sioux Falls, SD at the end of next month i will not be anywhere near iowa this year. but plans do change. find me a good p-pump 12v at a decent price an i may hitch on out there. as for the cost of repair... i have no fear of taking things apart so long as the parts themselves dont cost an armload. since our exchange last night i have decided that 4500s dont hurt my feelings anymore and i will probably go that route unless the 6er just happens at the right time/price. mostly i just need the damn engine. i crave fabwork. all this paint stripping is driveing me nuts

looking forward to a bad air video

ryan

That's part of the issue, the parts alone are dang near the cost of a reman unit on the NV5600's, along with the fact you MUST have a 100 ton press to disassemble and reassemble the transmission. That alone makes it not worth messing with in my book.

Are 6BT's that hard to find in Colorado, or are they just high in price?

6lcummins 03-01-2012 03:47 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by jbclassix (Post 5220064)
I need to study up on the 6BT... I'm lost ;)

Well feel free to ask, questions never hurt.

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Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 5221450)
I call that the snowball effect, the farther it goes the bigger it gets!

This is a catch 22 for him and me, customers projects or our own.... Who's to work on first... lol

ryanroo 03-01-2012 09:13 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by 6lcummins (Post 5222412)
That's part of the issue, the parts alone are dang near the cost of a reman unit on the NV5600's, along with the fact you MUST have a 100 ton press to disassemble and reassemble the transmission. That alone makes it not worth messing with in my book.

Are 6BT's that hard to find in Colorado, or are they just high in price?

we have a press of that capacity at work, it may be a little smaller than that. the neighbor has a huge monster though, 250 ton maybe. i can't remember but watching him press the wheels off the axles of rail cars is extreme and the press is enormous. either way it doesn't sound like any fun to deal with. i've been inside a few 4500, so that is familiar territory.

they aren't necessarily hard to find, but trucks don't rust away to nothing here and there are not as many "farm" trucks that get beat to hell but still have good powertrains so they are fewer and further apart. i can find VE motors all day long. also see more of the 24v than the p-pump stuff. ive thought about buying a 24v and doing the conversion.

Dieselwrencher 03-01-2012 10:58 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Nothing else get a non intercooled VE and swap it to p-pump. they have the better pistons to play with any way. A 24v is hard to beat once it's swapped too. :lol:

Beat68CST 03-02-2012 02:04 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Non intercooled 1st gens have a little more valve lift outta their cam also, don't they?

mknittle 03-02-2012 11:21 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
This is getting interesting! I know more about the big engines that the smaller ones.

mknittle 03-02-2012 11:29 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Its ShowTime!! (Post 5219039)
what rear end and front end are you using?? im building my 88 and i wanna run 52's but i dont kno what will hold up!! any suggestions:smoke:

How about rockwell DDs

6lcummins 03-02-2012 11:45 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Its ShowTime!! (Post 5219039)
what rear end and front end are you using?? im building my 88 and i wanna run 52's but i dont kno what will hold up!! any suggestions:smoke:

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Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 5225040)
How about rockwell DDs

Spend a little money on a D60 and a D80 and they will hold 1500HP and be reliable other than ring and pinions in extreme circumstances.
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