Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

^^^ True.

Not a problem for a street vehicle, but does blow dust around in my garage. '77 dumps with turn downs at the axle. No drone on the highway, but it's pretty chest-intoxicating at traffic lights.

Also, I think, there is a risk of corrosion from exhaust gasses lingering under the bed.

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In the big picture..... My ride? It's not highly detailed. It has flaky paint & some rust. I don't care about dust stirring under the bed/body from the dumped exhaust.

I head to a local gathering of enthusiasts. The ground @ the parking lot is dusty & dirty. I pull though the lot dusting the path traveled as I go. Everyone in close proximity gets the fall-out. Those w/nice detailed/painted rides & the people standing/walking around checking out everyone's efforts. It's goes on their rides in in their lungs/eyes.

Just a different perspective. You can embrace it or ignore it but it happens.

I don't like being that guy. I try to plan/build my exhaust exits to minimize impact on others.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Ah. Fair enough. The hooligan in me didn't think about others; I don't really go to shows, but that's a very fair point.

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Full disclosure: I've never been a fan of the 'dump'em in front of the rear axle' set-ups.

I didn't notice this "party-foul" @ shows actually. Once upon a time a few years ago here in Dallas we had an old-school burgers & beers drive-in joint that drew a pretty decent Fri/Sat night crowd during the warmer months (so March - Oct here).

On the back lot of this facility people would park, set-up their lawn chairs in front of their vehicles, & hang-out to talk w/friends & like minded peeps. It was there that I watched several vehicles roll through w/the exhaust stirring up everything worse than a street sweeper. People had to cover their food & turn their heads etc....

I just don't want to be the guy that gets the ride you just spent 2hrs cleaning up dirty 30 secs after I pull in.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Valid point, I am also toying with the idea of installing side exhaust, not through the bed, just below it. If do the exhaust it must be somewhat simple and not hard... lol bends all over... ya that would be a disaster if i try that.

here is a pic of the tip

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

This is just an idea...

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

The other idea is just round pipe out the side before the rear tire....

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

:thumbs:

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Nascar oval pipes??

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Boom Tubes!

Through the step on a stepside....

https://www.gwellwood.com/wordpress/..._n-672x391.jpg

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

+1!

I have started making my own boom tubes, have no idea if they will actually work but it was fun researching the design.

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

that is an idea.... ya thanks, i kinda like that

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I have similar on my "69

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Oooohhhhh...

Is it on here or can you point me to a link?

Like to see who others have done the same thing.

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Here ya go....

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Like that.

What did you use for the exit patch? Straight Ally or something repurposed?

My thinking is to make a single outlet on the drivers side and make a proper flat oval boom tube - I have enough 2 1/2 and 3" pipe left over from previous builds to have an experiment, if it doesn't work then the only cost is my time, some cutting blades and gas.

Hope to be back on Woody next week as I have had a parts delivery so can start to move forwards again.

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

This exit is very simple in that it just side exhaust that was lifted up to exit through the bed side. I just have a chrome time on it, then the side protection is just a flat piece of stainless steel that i polished and i have a die stamp that makes the hole. Nothing fancy by any means and not what I would do again as i would do more along the lines of what you are looking at doing, and I have not ruled that out of the possibilities either on what i will do.

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ok so put on the seam sealer for the main seams, still need to do the self leveling drip rail sealer. I also put on Por 15 on all of the insides along with the firewall and surrounding area.
I am impressed with the Por 15 and how well it covers. I ordered 3 quarts along time ago through summit thinking that was how i would do the frame. Well it showed up with one of the 3 exploded everywhere inside the bag they were shipped in. So i called them and explained the situation, so they said keep what is useable and we will send 3 new ones! So i now have 5 quarts! Well i have 4 now, used one quart on the pics attached.

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Very interesting stuff honestly. It dries with like a satin finish, shown in the pics are of it mostly wet.

So i want to tape off a few area's and spray on build up primer, then sand down and guide coat. Well I have decided that a few areas like the door pillar mount area that I covered in POR 15 i want to make body color, so I read that you can just scuff and shoot primer right over Por 15, so i guess i will be finding out how "easy" that is. LOL hind sight is always 20 20. lol

But damn that stuff is nice for cover, but careful, it will splatter everywhere if you are not careful, very very watery. I thought it would be more like a thinker paint... not even close. lol

So, i was looking at the front area where the fire wall is and maybe i will go with the top coat there as it will be very visible and i want it to look nice, more of a satin finish to semi-Gloss.

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Looks good , I cant wait to get to that phase of my build. I'm following along. What brand of drip rail sealer ?

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Don't get it on your hootus.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

:lol: I had to look that up. :lol:

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I bought it from Eastwood. I have got all my seam sealer from them. Seems like good stuff.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

LOL did not do that but damn that stuff gets on everything! It is very liguidy.... lol taste like crap and burns eyes too if you get in your eye... Yes I did... stupid me was using a paint brush on the inside of the dash, brushed towards myself and splat.... a splatter lands in the corner of my eye... not fun... BUT acetone will remove it as long as it is not dried, then good luck....

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Found a local automotive paint store that had the "Top Coat Por 15" in gloss black in a spray can ... at 30.00 for the can that i will use on the firewall to make it look nice.

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Ok I need some help with the self leveling seam sealer. I bought the 2K self leveling seam sealer from Eastwood, 1 tube to do the top rail of the cab. Question: how or what do you do with the one small section on the roof rail that is set at an angle? Do I install my other seam sealer here to fill in that area and provide a "stop for the self leveling seal?
Thanks for for the help here.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

the REAL question...would this stuff be better or worse than Herculiner?

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Well not sure, but i can tell you that i used a spray on bed liner on the entire underside of the cab and that stuff will not come off if you get it on your Hootus without some time and soaking.... lol

BUT the seam sealer will come off, with some effort of course.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I will have an update coming soon, been helping out a brother who cannot get around real well to redo his floors in his house to wood floors. But i will have an update coming soon.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Look forward to it Geoff.

If you ever feel the need to head towards the Mother Land I have some floors that need attention....

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

LOL!! If i ever have the honor to visit your great country and you have floors to do, i would honestly help.

Just a quick note mate, it is Jeff not the other way... lol i am normal... well ok that is not right but i spell it normal.... lol

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Apologise Jeff!

I was multi tasking, one of my countless Team calls whilst going through the site, the guy speaking is/was Geoff...

P. :D

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LOL all is good.

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Well so I had to do something with the truck, it has been so long... so I started to install all the sound deadener on the inside and oh damn, that is not a quick process or at least with me it is not. lol
I am installing the stuff everywhere in the inside, all the way up inside firewall, floor and up the back side of the cab., I am also installing it where the headliner will be and then on the outside of the foot area vents that are now going to be mid speaker air boxes. Pics coming...

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Verify this is acceptable for the speakers used. It is 'sound deadening material' so it can tweak the acoustics of speakers.

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You are very correct. I have installed many systems and this set up I am doing for this truck is all JL Audio. I built a custom Sub-Box which I did with a few calls and emails with JL Audio to make sure i meet all the requirements for just the subs i am using with the Ported box i built, along with discussing my plans for the separate mids and tweets, area they will be in, and "sound deadener" i am using and for my setup they actually suggested it, due to the speakers i am using.
You must have installed a few systems before to know this. I really do appreciate you asking though, keeps me on my toes... lol and i need that alot.

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What deadening did you use Jeff?

I am looking at using the Kilmat as it is quite cost effective and has good reviews, but always good to hear others views and uses.

Coming along nicely by the way!

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I am using a variation of Kilmat that is approx the same cost. Good quality, works and is cheaper than some name brands. I am covering just about everything i can in it... lol. As Scoti has mentioned earlier, if you use sound deadening material on anything that could effect speaker sound, make sure the speakers your using are good with deadening material around them. Otherwise, it is amazing how much that stuff stops that nasty metal ringing sound and reduces road noise to some degree.

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Following on from my what is required in a daily driver thread, internal noise/sound deadening is a big one for me so will be interested to hear what you think of the Kilmat substitute.

Interested that you are covering all surfaces, the little research I did seems to illustrate that there are two schools of though - one is to cover everything, the other is just to put the material in the middle of the panel.

Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject.

P. :D

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So Paul, i have used this substitute in my 1969 C10, covered everything and it works great. Please know that i am not saying anything bad or against Kilmat or any other name brand. I have used Kilmat and another big name brand and both are great products, i just got a killer deal on this other one, i basically was given the option of two for one deal and jumped on it.

I have read, discussed and understand both sides of the road, cover everything or not. I honestly myself prefer everything covered. it helps with sound, heat and to me just makes for a better sound environment if you ask me. Again, this is only my opinion and experience. I do not think either way is right or wrong honestly.

I would say if you are a big sound person, not necessarily "loud" but high quality, buy that, high quality equipment. (Disclaimer... LOL as i say that i have the cheaper version of the sound deadener BUT i have had it for over a year, tried it previously and like it, so I am using it for that reason.)