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protrash64 07-02-2009 03:33 PM

Re: The 283 Rebuild Begins
 
4D taking 'gaming' to a whole different level:lol:.


Thanks for the pics, Mac, looks good except for the :thumbs:

4dranch 07-02-2009 03:36 PM

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:lol::lol:

MacAttack 07-02-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3392342)
I think jgh64pkup wants the short version of your truck's history...

Oh - okay - no problem:

February 8th, 2008 - sometime between midnight and 4AM, a crew of guys hit four trucks (60-66) in my neighborhood. 63' short/fleet around the corner had it's ignition ripped out and battery run down - owner had the coil wire in his garage. Mine was the only one they got - supposedly by drilling out the lock on The Club, pushing the truck around the corner - down the hill and then starting her from there.

Drove her to a warehouse in Santa Ana (15 miles from my place), to join 7 others, of various years (again 60-66) and about twelve 40-foot trailer's worth of stolen parts of the same vintage.

The head thief - an American citizen - was using illegal aliens from south of the border to go out in crews and snake all this stuff for him and had been under surveillance for a while by the OC Sheriff. My truck was the last he got and they blew the whole scene up in a huge raid.

Truck sat in evidence until Memorial Day - 2008.

DA told the illegals she wasn't interested in turning them over to INS if they (about a dozen at the time) wanted to turn state's. They sang like canaries and were released immediately.

The next working day I paid the tow truck driver a c-note and he drove my truck back to my house from the Sheriff's evidence yard.

My "friend" got 8 years in the state pen. I'm going to get copies of the really relevant pictures of this build and mail it to him as a Christmas present in California Institution for Men (CIM) - Chino.

Mac. :chevy:

MacAttack 07-02-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3392342)
Don't shoot to kill....Shoot and have some fun.....:lol::lol:

David - that's some funny chit right there! :lol:

Mac. :chevy:

jgh64pkup 07-02-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3392383)
Oh - okay - no problem:

February 8th, 2008 - sometime between midnight and 4AM, a crew of guys hit four trucks (60-66) in my neighborhood. 63' short/fleet around the corner had it's ignition ripped out and battery run down - owner had the coil wire in his garage. Mine was the only one they got - supposedly by drilling out the lock on The Club, pushing the truck around the corner - down the hill and then starting her from there.

Drove her to a warehouse in Santa Ana (15 miles from my place), to join 7 others, of various years (again 60-66) and about twelve 40-foot trailer's worth of stolen parts of the same vintage.

The head thief - an American citizen - was using illegal aliens from south of the border to go out in crews and snake all this stuff for him and had been under surveillance for a while by the OC Sheriff. My truck was the last he got and they blew the whole scene up in a huge raid.

Truck sat in evidence until Memorial Day - 2008.

DA told the illegals she wasn't interested in turning them over to INS if they (about a dozen at the time) wanted to turn state's. They sang like canaries and were released immediately.

The next working day I paid the tow truck driver a c-note and he drove my truck back to my house from the Sheriff's evidence yard.

My "friend" got 8 years in the state pen. I'm going to get copies of the really relevant pictures of this build and mail it to him as a Christmas present in California Institution for Men (CIM) - Chino.

Mac. :chevy:

thats a good christmas present
i got to shoot a shotgun for the first time yesterday
it was a sawed off 12 gauge with a birdshot the guy wanted me to shoot a buckshot

1964C10 07-02-2009 06:35 PM

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Wow, Mac, that is some story!! Mine sits on the street everyday, doesn't make me feel really fuzzy. Glad you got it back though.

justbad 07-02-2009 06:56 PM

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I build about 8 - 10 cars a year.ive had very limited luck on rebuilds it seems that everyone knows how to build a sbc
problem is they all "sort of" know how to build a small block
they all take short cuts.that's why i try to use crate or factory pullouts.you will spend $2 grand on a cheap rebuild.for about the same amount you can buy a pullout from a late 90's f body
ls1 or ls6 with a trans .ive done this a lot and i will tell you from experiance you will dbl the money you get if you sale the thing .just a thought ,by the way the last car a 68 chevelle i put one in got a lil over 27 mpg that dont suck eather.

MacAttack 07-03-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by justbad (Post 3392641)
that's why i try to use crate or factory pullouts.you will spend $2 grand on a cheap rebuild.

Yeah - I won't do it again. It was fun, but only because I had the 65' Chevelle to drive to work in the mean time. I think I'll do the modern power-plant routine on the next build, but I have to sell or rebuild the 350 and 327 engines I have on dollies first.

Mac.:lol:

MacAttack 07-03-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 1964C10 (Post 3392617)
Wow, Mac, that is some story!! Mine sits on the street everyday, doesn't make me feel really fuzzy. Glad you got it back though.

According to the OC Sheriff's office - it rarely, if ever happens that way on these old classics. Usually the're skipped out-of-state or south of the border.

This idiot, for some drug-related reason, took my perfectly good straight six and TH350 out of the truck - threw them in the bed, and proceed to put a 283 V-8 and old granny farmer's 3-speed in the vehicle.

My re-builder said he'd never seen a block with so many cracks. I have no answers for why Mr. 3-Time-Loser did what he did to my fine old truck.

Mac.:smoke:

1964C10 07-03-2009 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3393455)
According to the OC Sheriff's office - it rarely, if ever happens that way on these old classics. Usually the're skipped out-of-state or south of the border.

This idiot, for some drug-related reason, took my perfectly good straight six and TH350 out of the truck - threw them in the bed, and proceed to put a 283 V-8 and old granny farmer's 3-speed in the vehicle.

My re-builder said he'd never seen a block with so many cracks. I have no answers for why Mr. 3-Time-Loser did what he did to my fine old truck.

Mac.:smoke:

Yeah that makes no sense, I guess some people just have V8 on their mind and really have no idea about anything else. On a side note, and apologies I am not trying hijack the thread but will a TH350 bolt up to an L6 without too much problems?

MacAttack 07-03-2009 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1964C10 (Post 3393597)
Will a TH350 bolt up to an L6 without too much problems?

Perfectly. Unfortunately - when I let the 6 go I forgot to take the flex-plate off (just lazy) and had to buy one from Jeg's for the 283.

A Homer moment.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:.../kuvat/doh.png

Mac. :lol:

justcuz 07-04-2009 12:55 PM

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Hey Mac, good to hear you got the tan running. The thread is entertaining as can be! Did I remind you about drilling the bleed hole in the thermostat lip? If not sorry about that. A 1/4 hole in the lip lets the air bleed out and if you keep the cap off and the coolant level about an inch below the top of the radiator, it usually will not puke over the top when the thermostat opens.
Do you have a spin on oil filter? If so remember the oil change interval for that new engine. I think I posted it for you somewhere in here. If not let me know, I'll repost it. Lastly will you have this back in time for the Brothers Truck Show this year. If not you should go anyway, take your son and grandson. It is full of a lot of cool old Chevy trucks. Plus you may meet some board members there.

MacAttack 07-06-2009 09:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 3395158)
Hey Mac, good to hear you got the tan running.

Thanks, Man - it’s taken way too long to get to this point, but I’m glad I finally made it.

Went with the Milodon thermostat, 160 degree, high-flow and it’s got a bleed ‘dimple’. After I threw that P.O.S. Chinese thermostat as far as I could and installed the real one - everything worked perfectly - coolant wise.

Yes I have a spin-on oil filter (bought the NAPA adapter kit) and yes I need a refresher on the oil change interval.

Can’t make the show, as my mom’s coming in Thursday afternoon from Phoenix for the grandson’s birthday weekend and I’ll be booked through Monday. Bummer.

Mac.:chevy:

justcuz 07-11-2009 11:11 AM

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First oil change and filter, right after cam break in ,(so when you get it home)
Next at 500 miles
Then at 1000 miles
Next at 2000 miles
Again at 3000 miles
Then every 3000 there after.

I personally would use the recommended amount of oil additive for the first 1000 miles at least, until the rings seat. After that you should be OK, but you could add 4 to 8 ounces with each oil change if you are concerned about lubrication.

VDOG 07-12-2009 12:57 PM

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My 283 after installing a new intake. It was built 11 years ago, other than changing the water pump, its run flawless. Now its getting a lil tired, getting some blowback, so it will be replaced for a 350 for more torque, then the 283 will be rebuilt and shellved for a 62 to 65 nova project, someday.

jgh64pkup 07-12-2009 01:40 PM

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i think you radiator hose is a little kinked :uhmk:

VDOG 07-12-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3408169)
i think you radiator hose is a little kinked :uhmk:

LOL!! Yeah that was a while ago, its better now.

MacAttack 07-28-2009 10:15 AM

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Piston Ring Seating Myth Time: :smoke:

The truck is coming home after I leave work at 5PM Friday, 7/31. The shop is 1.5 miles from my house - which should allow time to get 'The Tan' up to operating temperature.

If it's actually ready for driving home I plan on taking her down some small hills (about 75 feet in elevation) and mashing the crap out of the accelerator (once I'm sure the brakes function correctly) and get up to about 70 mph and slam on the brakes as hard as I can (drums all around with power booster), go back up the hill and repeat the process 3-4 times, and/or get arrested for speeding in a 35 mph zone.

The Myth?: It seats the rings before the honing cross-hatch has worn off.

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:...70f7766063.jpg......or not?

protrash64 07-28-2009 07:19 PM

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Sounds like it oughta knock any glaze off your brake shoes!!:lol: I've heard just about everything at this point....''take it easy for the first 500''....''dont drive at a constant speed''.....''drive it how you would normally''. I couldn't tell ya.

shrunken66stroker 07-28-2009 07:34 PM

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Make sure the e-brake works too. Just in case. You would have to coast around the block quite a few times to slow down from 75.

MacAttack 07-31-2009 02:34 PM

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Five hours to pick the old girl up..................maybe................

In the mean time, check out the cams we're grinding this morning. ($5k each)

(no customer name, but it kind of rhymes with): http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:...08/08/yoda.jpg

MacAttack 07-31-2009 03:02 PM

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and.....

MacAttack 07-31-2009 03:04 PM

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and finally.......(more money in this single piece than my entire drive train) :lol:

mike73 07-31-2009 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2821988)
What kind of cam are you putting in it? I would suggest staying mild, something like a HO 305 Camaro cam. Ask the machine shop, but those small engines do not like a lot of cam, won't make much vacuum for power brakes if you do. HO 305 cam is like 403 in and 415 ex. I forget the duration and lobe seperation, it is slightly bigger than a stock 350 cam which is 390 in and 410 ex. Are you running a 2 barrel carb? How do you crack an intake manifold? Does this guy build hobby stock race engines? Old stock Chevy 2BBL intakes are worth bank to these guys for some reason. I swapped 3 of mine for some cast iron 4BBL intakes for Qjets and the guy was practically overjoyed to get them. Not worth much to me, I would rather have the Qjet and drive the primaries most of the time and still have the ability to tromp on it if needed.

I think they like em for the TBI swaps if Im not mistaken?

joe231 07-31-2009 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3440516)
and finally.......(more money in this single piece than my entire drive train) :lol:

Cool...
where do you work?

protrash64 07-31-2009 11:22 PM

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Hey, how did you post pics from today?

Captainfab 08-02-2009 01:05 AM

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Yeah what's up with that?.....couldn't be could it?....did Mac get a digital camera?

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3441223)
Hey, how did you post pics from today?


4dranch 08-03-2009 07:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3441223)
Hey, how did you post pics from today?

:lol::lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3442854)
Yeah what's up with that?.....couldn't be could it?....did Mac get a digital camera?

:lol::lol:

MacAttack 08-03-2009 10:10 AM

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3440709)
Cool...
where do you work?

Machine / Grinding / Tooling - Job Shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3441223)
Hey, how did you post pics from today?

Boss’s Sony - old school, with a 3.5" floppy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3442854)
Yeah what's up with that?.....couldn't be could it?....did Mac get a digital camera?

Not a chance!


BTW - no truck yet: Electrical gremlins. :smoke:

MacAttack 08-05-2009 04:05 PM

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Talked with my transmission guy last night - apparently the PO (a friend's son) had put posi in this truck and the rear end may not be from a 65'. Asked if I wanted to put the money into overhauling it and I agreed immediately.

The new gears will have the 283 turning 2,450 @ 65 mph because of the short (60 series) T/A Radials, which is just fine - in my book.

Hopefully I'll get to actually drive this truck some day.

Mac. :waah:

MacAttack 08-05-2009 04:14 PM

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http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:...cker-cries.jpgI want my schlong! (bed)

70 Suburban 08-05-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by macattack (Post 3448993)

if you dont mind can you never post that pic again...wow

MacAttack 08-05-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3449077)
if you dont mind can you never post that pic again...wow

:lol: :lol: :lol:

* gee - if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that. :smoke:

Mac. :chevy:

protrash64 08-05-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3449086)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

* gee - if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that. :smoke:

Mac. :chevy:

:lol::lol:.......no doubt!!:lol:

4dranch 08-06-2009 06:48 AM

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:lol::lol::lol:

jason65 08-08-2009 08:55 AM

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3.08 gears Mac?

MacAttack 08-10-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3453313)
3.08 gears Mac?

:metal: Full marks, Jason. That's exactly what they are.

joe231 08-10-2009 11:01 AM

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is it still at the supposed "shop"?
;)

MacAttack 08-10-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3456752)
is it still at the supposed "shop"?
;)

:mm: Yeah. And at my last visit, Friday before last, he said he'd "call when it was ready." Which basically translates to - don't call us, we'll call you.

Mac. ;)

jason65 08-10-2009 11:56 AM

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Any chance of progress pics from the chop?


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