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joe231 03-09-2009 11:32 PM

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and......

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see......they ain't picky, they will ride in a F**d

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Molly might need to lay off the hooch :lol:;)

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Captainfab 03-10-2009 01:16 AM

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The frame, engine and trans cleaned up real nice......almost ready for paint :thumbs:

How'd you manage to keep those dogs clean and dry at the car wash?

joe231 03-10-2009 07:39 AM

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yeah after the clean up, i've been thinking about por-15......dunno.
the plan was to get it sand blasted then paint, but now I don't know.....

:lol:
they didn't like it, but they stayed in the truck the whole time

4dranch 03-10-2009 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3189514)
yeah after the clean up, i've been thinking about por-15......dunno.
the plan was to get it sand blasted then paint, but now I don't know.....

:lol:
they didn't like it, but they stayed in the truck the whole time

Joe, JMO but since you have the frame bare I would go with the Por-15...that way you have no regrets later. everything is looking good.
Love the dogs...is that your son with them?

joe231 03-10-2009 08:06 AM

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:thumbs:

yeah that is my youngest son

4dranch 03-10-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3189540)
:thumbs:

yeah that is my youngest son

cool,
looks like the dogs were keeping him out of trouble while you were working:lol:

joe231 03-10-2009 08:14 AM

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:lol:

kizer 03-10-2009 10:28 AM

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Exactly what I'm doing with my frame, but you know that already. I just have to get the rest of the body of so I can get to it.

Then again Alan's looks really sexy painted. ;)

So the car wash didn't have an issue with you rolling in with a frame and engine to clean? They normally have a heart attack when I roll in with my Jeep covered with mud so I could only imagine what they'd think if I brought a frame/engine in. hahaha

joe231 03-10-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3189719)
Exactly what I'm doing with my frame, but you know that already. I just have to get the rest of the body of so I can get to it.

Then again Alan's looks really sexy painted. ;)

So the car wash didn't have an issue with you rolling in with a frame and engine to clean? They normally have a heart attack when I roll in with my Jeep covered with mud so I could only imagine what they'd think if I brought a frame/engine in. hahaha

yeah, I have probably asked already, but how do you like the POR?
i'm thinking about trying out the Zero-Rust, it is about a third the cost of POR....think I'm still gonna get it all sand blasted first

:lol:

I didn't ask ;)
it wasn't really greasy, mostly just dirt, other than the rear differential.
there was an outlaw dirt track racer cleaning his race car there too.
I had a couple guys come up and ask "what is it"
I told them and they both told me that was the way to do it :lol:

jchav62 03-10-2009 10:50 AM

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Progress is progress...Looks dam good!

We were there not too long ago with my woman's '65. Luckily there wasn't too much rust on the chassis, we shot it with Rustoleum semi-gloss black paint...:chevy:

Strodder 03-10-2009 11:18 AM

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I've had experience with Por-15 before with great results. If prepared correctly it's really durable. You can hit it with a hammer and it doesn't chip. You can paint it with a brush, and dries like you sprayed it on. Like you said it's not cheap. I have to check out Zero-Rust to see if it's as durable. What do you guys know?

joe231 03-10-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jchav62 (Post 3189743)
Progress is progress...Looks dam good!

We were there not too long ago with my woman's '65. Luckily there wasn't too much rust on the chassis, we shot it with Rustoleum semi-gloss black paint...:chevy:

Thanks Joe!!!

that's a good looking frame!!

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3189785)
I've had experience with Por-15 before with great results. If prepared correctly it's really durable. You can hit it with a hammer and it doesn't chip. You can paint it with a brush, and dries like you sprayed it on. Like you said it's not cheap. I have to check out Zero-Rust to see if it's as durable. What do you guys know?

Excerpt from their web-site
Quote:

Zero Rust - A VOC Compliant Phenolic Alkyd Primer Coating:

ZeroRust is a direct metal phenolic modified alkyd rust and corrosion control a coating, which puts down an impermeable rust proofing barrier at the steel level. ZeroRust has two superior traits (1) it provides maximum adhesion to steel or maximum rust prevention - this is called chemical affinity. (2) Its dielectric ability is extraordinary - steel is isolated from the electrolysis process, which converts steel to rust. (In laymen's terms, this rust prevention starves the oxygen from the substrate, preventing oxidation.) Zero Rust makes an excellent Original Equipment Manufacturer “OEM” coating and is routinely used on new trailers, new structural steel, new oilfield wellheads & manifolds, new mining equipment, new pump & manifold systems, new power generation skids and new tanks. Zero Rust can give your products the rust protection and prevent rust from appearing again.

ZeroRust Performance:
Continued refinement of the Zero Rust formula has netted ASTM-B117 salt spray testing results exceeding 2000 hours at 3.5 mils dry film thickness (d.f.t.). This equates to 600 hours per dry mil, which was previously unheard of in an air-dry system. The Zero-Rust rust protection performance exceeds that of commonly used red oxide, DTM Acrylics, water-borne alkyds and epoxies on these types of surfaces. Zero-Rust rust protection performance has been confirmed by industrial, commercial and marine industry. Black and Red Oxide Zero-Rust are recommended as the primers for corrosive services -- including marine, coastal and industrial surfaces. The effectiveness of Zero-Rust on bare steel surfaces is optimized at 2.5 to 3.0 mils d.f.t. over profile. Rule of thumb: Zero-Rust should provide five years of rust protection for every a mil d.f.t. With the addition of a topcoat or a thicker film of Zero-Rust to take the ultraviolet rays, sealing protection can easily double.
http://zero-rust.com

I have heard good things about it.

TimE 03-10-2009 04:35 PM

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I have a gallon of the black Zero-Rust that I plan to use on the frame. I also bought 6 cans of the red oxide to use in smaller, hard to reach areas so I would have an opposing color to make sure I had good coverage with the black.

If I ever get to the frame, I'll let you know how it turns out. (You'll probably beat me to that point though.)

joe231 03-10-2009 04:40 PM

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:thumbs:

Strodder 03-10-2009 08:17 PM

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It looks good, and I like that it comes in colors. I wonder how it will resist road chips compared to Por-15.

Alan's Classic 03-10-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3189719)
Then again Alan's looks really sexy painted. ;)

I heard that.:lol:

Joe, nice progress.:metal:

You remember our discussion on the durability of my painted frame? You said your truck will be on some dirt roads if I remember correctly. If your can hit por15 with a hammer and it won't chip, I think I know what my choice would be. Good luck with your decision.

Strodder 03-10-2009 09:21 PM

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I'm thinking of painting the frame with the Zero-Rust because it comes in colors, and the suspension parts with the black Por-15. That's what will chip the most. Plus I already have a quart of the Por-15.

joe231 03-10-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3190696)
I heard that.:lol:

Joe, nice progress.:metal:

You remember our discussion on the durability of my painted frame? You said your truck will be on some dirt roads if I remember correctly. If your can hit por15 with a hammer and it won't chip, I think I know what my choice would be. Good luck with your decision.

Thanks Alan!!!

i do recall that conversation;)
It is my understanding that the Zero-Rust is as durable as POR......dunno

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3190710)
I'm thinking of painting the frame with the Zero-Rust because it comes in colors, and the suspension parts with the black Por-15. That's what will chip the most. Plus I already have a quart of the Por-15.

I thought it only came in black and red oxide......guess i need to check out the Zero-Rust site some more.....

TwiggyTheDrummer 03-10-2009 09:37 PM

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I used the POR15 and it withstood a Bobcat blade without scraping through to the bare metal.

Strodder 03-10-2009 09:40 PM

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It's here:
http://zero-rust.com//zero-rust-colors.html

Strodder 03-10-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TwiggyTheDrummer (Post 3190742)
I used the POR15 and it withstood a Bobcat blade without scraping through to the bare metal.

That's what I'm talking about. :metal:

joe231 03-10-2009 09:44 PM

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cool, thanks

collins10672 03-10-2009 10:50 PM

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i used por15 on a 66 short fleet i was working on back in 94.i brushed it on the inner rockers,inside of the rockers before welding them on and inside of the new cab corners.i expect it to outlast me probably,but i sold the truck in 95 and don't know what it looks like now.

Strodder 03-11-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by collins10672 (Post 3190957)
i used por15 on a 66 short fleet i was working on back in 94.i brushed it on the inner rockers,inside of the rockers before welding them on and inside of the new cab corners.i expect it to outlast me probably,but i sold the truck in 95 and don't know what it looks like now.

That's a good idea.

kizer 03-11-2009 12:42 PM

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Without going on a Sales Pitch for Por15. My plan was to paint anything and everything under the truck that is subject to boucing rocks and road salt. As well the bottoms of the cab, inner fender/exterior fender, bed supports and frame. I'm sure Rust Bullet and all the others would work as well, but thats my plan for now. ;)

I didn't take pictures, but when I tried to bend the hairs on a brush after it sat over night the handle snapped on the brush before I could bend a brissel. Keep in mind the temp was 70 or so degrees so it had a good chance to harden. It would take longer to harden if it was cooler. I've never powder coated or sprayed automotive paint so I don't know if I would of had the same result. :smoke:

Just don't get that stuff on you. It does not come off easily.

joe231 03-11-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3191698)
Without going on a Sales Pitch for Por15. My plan was to paint anything and everything under the truck that is subject to boucing rocks and road salt. As well the bottoms of the cab, inner fender/exterior fender, bed supports and frame. I'm sure Rust Bullet and all the others would work as well, but thats my plan for now. ;)

I didn't take pictures, but when I tried to bend the hairs on a brush after it sat over night the handle snapped on the brush before I could bend a brissel. Keep in mind the temp was 70 or so degrees so it had a good chance to harden. It would take longer to harden if it was cooler. I've never powder coated or sprayed automotive paint so I don't know if I would of had the same result. :smoke:

Just don't get that stuff on you. It does not come off easily.


heck, I thought you were the companies PR guy:lol:

just/foolin';)

kizer 03-11-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3191783)
heck, I thought you were the companies PR guy:lol:

just/foolin';)

Just on the second Tuesday on Odd Months. If I PR for them do you think I'll get a discount? Stuff is a bit spendy. :lol:

joe231 03-11-2009 02:00 PM

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i would hope so.................
get me a discount too while you are at it ;)

joe231 03-11-2009 03:02 PM

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Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...


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Strodder 03-11-2009 03:06 PM

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That would make a cool custom Ice Cream Truck. Something like this one. But more hot rod type not low rider.
http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/461036030_QWYBk-M.jpg

TwiggyTheDrummer 03-11-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3191913)
Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...


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Nice. I bet you someone stole the grille.

joe231 03-11-2009 03:44 PM

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your probably right............
or an employee needed it for a project:rolleyes:

MacAttack 03-11-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3191913)
Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...

:smoke: Always thought one of those would make a very unique, heavy-duty camper of some sort. Neat old school design that might be cool with some tinted boat windows. At least the sides and roof wouldn't disintegrate like the cheapy tin motor homes.

;)

kizer 03-11-2009 04:50 PM

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Wow that thing almost looks like an old Chevy armored truck.

Strodder 03-11-2009 06:52 PM

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I called Zero Rust today. They won't even sell to me because I live in California. He told me it is like Por-15 and is chip resistant, and can be painted on with a brush. You must prepare it correctly, and it needs 2 coats. I tried to order it through the web site, and it went through. The web site said nothing about California not being able to order it. I paid through Pay Pal. We'll see what happens???

TimE 03-11-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3191913)
Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...

Working in Chandler or using work as an excuse to cruise Route 66?:metal:

That truck has been sitting in that spot for the last 5 years that I know of. Never thought to snap a pic of it but I eyeballed it everytime I drove by.


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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3192275)
I called Zero Rust today. They won't even sell to me because I live in California. The web site said nothing about California not being able to order it. I paid through Pay Pal. We'll see what happens???


Cool! Let us know how it turns out for you.

joe231 03-11-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3191977)
:smoke: Always thought one of those would make a very unique, heavy-duty camper of some sort. Neat old school design that might be cool with some tinted boat windows. At least the sides and roof wouldn't disintegrate like the cheapy tin motor homes.

;)

heck yeah

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Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3192066)
Wow that thing almost looks like an old Chevy armored truck.

exactly what i thought when i saw it

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3192275)
I called Zero Rust today. They won't even sell to me because I live in California. He told me it is like Por-15 and is chip resistant, and can be painted on with a brush. You must prepare it correctly, and it needs 2 coats. I tried to order it through the web site, and it went through. The web site said nothing about California not being able to order it. I paid through Pay Pal. We'll see what happens???

:metal:

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Originally Posted by TimE (Post 3192682)
Working in Chandler or using work as an excuse to cruise Route 66?:metal:

That truck has been sitting in that spot for the last 5 years that I know of. Never thought to snap a pic of it but I eyeballed it everytime I drove by.


I spend a lot of working time in Tulsa and the towns in-between
I-44 gets old, so sometimes i cruise 66
this particular time I was heading back from Sand Springs.....

billysbowties 03-11-2009 11:36 PM

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Hey Joe, great build glad to see you are coming along quite well on your truck. Its real neat to see that your wife and family are behind you on this. I've waited a long time to be able to build my truck and my wife is very understanding but she is going to leave it all to me. I never have been able to see the cab in Noble you saw but one day soon I hope, I did go and look at the cab I have been wanting for about 6-7 years now, (the one I was telling you about bbg and factory air), it has a long bed and excellent tailgate with cab and doors probably will need some floor work and maybe rockers but other than that its great with great glass will possibly buy it real soon ($300). I picked up a couple of good doors and front bed panel at Shawnee swap meet, the doors have been worked already and don't need much work. I wanted to let you know that I visited the Topps Powder Coating shop in Moore and talked to the owner and he told me he could do a bare frame for around $350 and I ask him about other components like "A" frames and crossmembers and tranny crossmember and he said $150. He has the capacity to do something I think he said up to 80' long. I was very impressed and the quality of some work I saw was real good. I didn't know if you were set on the place in Edmond or not just letting you know of a closer place. SEE YA SOON:chevy:

joe231 03-12-2009 07:44 AM

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cool
thanks Billy!!

MacAttack 03-12-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3192275)
I tried to order it through the web site, and it went through. The web site said nothing about California not being able to order it.

:smoke:

On the California regulations thing, I have the same problem with painting the inside of my boat every year. It’s a primer that "breathes", loves salt water, is tough as nails, gasses out like you wouldn’t believe and, of course - actually works.

When I order this stuff on the web I have it sent to a friend's house in Phoenix and they just UPS (ground) it to me. An extra few days, but worth it - as the California approved version of this product is not worth the value of the can it comes in.

Just say’in.

Mac. :chevy:


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