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Advanced Design 11-25-2016 11:32 PM

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Hey Marc congrat's on the welder. Looks like you quickly put it to good use!

youngrodder 11-25-2016 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7778059)
Hey Marc congrat's on the welder. Looks like you quickly put it to good use!

Yes, I plan to tackle the rear floor structure next...I hope this helps to speed things along.

Marc

reaper71 11-26-2016 12:55 AM

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Don't even sweat the gun...I have the same one and it works perfect (going on 4 yrs) what size wire did you go with and also make sure you get a separate tank for Argon for the tig ;)

The reason I ask about the wire .023 will lay smoother and you will have less material for cleanup, If I get into heavy wall stuff to weld ill go upto the .030

Mark...

lower50's 11-26-2016 01:27 AM

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Congrats nice looking unit!!!

BIGglaSS 11-26-2016 01:34 AM

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Nice welder! I have the same one. So far, I have only run .023 er70s-2 wire in it. I'm really liking the TIG for sheetmetal. If you haven't bought the TIG kit yet, you can put together better stuff for about the same price.

There is nothing wrong with the ground clamp. It has heavy duty copper jaws with plenty of contact area.

youngrodder 11-26-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by reaper71 (Post 7778123)
Don't even sweat the gun...I have the same one and it works perfect (going on 4 yrs) what size wire did you go with and also make sure you get a separate tank for Argon for the tig ;)

The reason I ask about the wire .023 will lay smoother and you will have less material for cleanup, If I get into heavy wall stuff to weld ill go upto the .030

Mark...

Mark

I appreciate all of your tips. I'm using .030. If I drop down to .023 do I need to get .023 tips for my gun? it only came with .030 wire and tips.

youngrodder 11-26-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGglaSS (Post 7778153)
Nice welder! I have the same one. So far, I have only run .023 er70s-2 wire in it. I'm really liking the TIG for sheetmetal. If you haven't bought the TIG kit yet, you can put together better stuff for about the same price.

There is nothing wrong with the ground clamp. It has heavy duty copper jaws with plenty of contact area.

Yes, I need to buy the TIG stuff. I have never TIG welded but I do want to learn.

Marc

reaper71 11-26-2016 10:37 AM

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You can still use the 030 tips it wont really effect the weld at all. I use the same tips.
The ER70-s wire is a great all around wire it welds nice and grinds easy.

When you get ready to get your tig setup let me know, I can give you some websites to go through that I use and the Torch,cups etc to go with

Mark...

mongocanfly 11-26-2016 02:19 PM

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Your stinger should be fine..I've used mine about 20 years..had a little trouble here and there..I just replaced mine with a upgraded heavy duty version and wow...what a difference...like i said..your ground looks better made than mine was..before I changed it out if I did much continuous welding it would get extremely hot and wouldn't clamp tight..I think you'll be fine..I used the tweco clamp on mine now and it works great..

youngrodder 11-26-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7778150)
Congrats nice looking unit!!!

Thanks. I also picked up a welding cart today.

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Originally Posted by reaper71 (Post 7778310)
You can still use the 030 tips it wont really effect the weld at all. I use the same tips.
The ER70-s wire is a great all around wire it welds nice and grinds easy.

When you get ready to get your tig setup let me know, I can give you some websites to go through that I use and the Torch,cups etc to go with

Mark...

Thanks Mark I appreciate the help..

Marc

youngrodder 11-27-2016 11:12 PM

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I got back out in the garage Saturday. I picked up a welding cart since my last one caught on fire....(jk). While Doug is busy shucking peanuts, I'm going to try to catch up...

I have quite a bit of the rear floor structure cut to length. I started to fab up the front section of floor. The plan is a strong structure that will provide support and added structure. I plan to use some type of wood over the top of the structure. If you look closely at the top of the photo you can see where I used some of the old flooring to space out the structure so the same thickness of wood will fit between the flange and support bracing. I'm kicking around a couple different ideas in my head for the wood.

I will use this same 1" x 2" tubing to go over the notch all the way to the rear. This will also provide a nice strong tie in for body mounts.

I tried to take a few pics....the lighting is not the best.

Marc

reaper71 11-27-2016 11:49 PM

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Looking good Marc

Advanced Design 11-28-2016 12:05 AM

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Yep, I paused my peanut shucking and see you are making good progress. Good idea and direction.

nebdrummer 11-28-2016 12:45 AM

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Soooo cool. Can't wait to see this done. I also wanna see your pickup in person. One of my favorites for sure. I'm glad to see another person with the multimatic. I'm eyeing that one myself. They still have some pretty good deals on them right now.

youngrodder 11-29-2016 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by reaper71 (Post 7780763)
Looking good Marc

Thanks Mark

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7780776)
Yep, I paused my peanut shucking and see you are making good progress. Good idea and direction.

Thanks Doug

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Originally Posted by nebdrummer (Post 7780813)
Soooo cool. Can't wait to see this done. I also wanna see your pickup in person. One of my favorites for sure. I'm glad to see another person with the multimatic. I'm eyeing that one myself. They still have some pretty good deals on them right now.

Yes, you and me both. I need to figure out the floor and rear tub situation before I pull the body back off and paint the frame. Thanks, you welcome to check out my 48 anytime...Yes, I dig my Multimatic. Rebates good until the end of the year.

Marc

youngrodder 12-04-2016 11:31 PM

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I have been busy working on the floor structure. I added more supports as well as the structure that goes up and over the large notch. I paid close attention to place one of the support structures over the body mounting tabs. I will drill through the support to that I can bolt the body through the floor and structure to the frame like it was from the factory. In one of the pictures you will also see I placed a small piece of the rear floor to get an idea of how it will look.

everything is spot welded at this point. This is a good thing because I had to change around one piece I welded in because I used the wrong measurement...that's what the mock up process is for.

I also added one piece across the notch. I might add another one above the gas tank.

The vision I have for the floor is some type of cool looking wood in the front and rear sections of the floor and a metal notch cover.

youngrodder 12-04-2016 11:35 PM

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Another pic.....The next step will be to trim down the stock inner fenders and raise them up slightly...I saw a guy on Facebook that did something similar with his build. I'm following his lead and putting my spin on it.

Marc

lower50's 12-05-2016 11:59 PM

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Looking good!! How do you like your welder? Are you accessing your compressor and tanks from underneath or hatch?

69CST-V 12-07-2016 03:27 PM

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Looking good!!!

youngrodder 12-07-2016 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7788103)
Looking good!! How do you like your welder? Are you accessing your compressor and tanks from underneath or hatch?

Lovin the welder...you have no idea. I kick myself for not pulling the trigger sooner. Yes probably. I will have a wood floor that I can remove from above if need be. I can also remove them from the bottom. Not sure the failure rate constitutes the extra work.

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Originally Posted by 69CST-V (Post 7789614)
Looking good!!!

Thanks

Marc

Advanced Design 12-07-2016 11:50 PM

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Marc you are cruising on the floor structure. Isn't the welder awesome?

Are you still going up through the floor for your fuel fill?

youngrodder 12-11-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7790071)
Marc you are cruising on the floor structure. Isn't the welder awesome?

Are you still going up through the floor for your fuel fill?

thanks, I had some of the metal already cut in advance and a general idea of how I planned to lay it out. Yes, I'm loving the welder..

Yes I'm planning on a small pop up gas cap directly above the fill on the tank. Depending on how far down the gas cap flange extends down I might only need about 2" of hose to connect the gas cap to the tank.

Marc

Scott2 12-12-2016 11:49 PM

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Great progress and the floor looks really solid! Nice welder - I got the Miller 211 last year and love it. I'm still burning holes but getting better over time.

murd969 12-15-2016 12:42 AM

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I like the build. It's looking great.

hotrodelrod 12-15-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7652913)
In talking with Nate from PB Fab it sounds like I will need a 2 piece. Shaft. He is also working on a bracket for a carrier bearing. It looked to me like I would have to go the two piece route. He did say the angle isn't really steep.



I would say yes on both accounts. With the stock F body manifolds on the passenger side I would have needed to clearance the frame rail to fit. These fit fine without modifications..

Marc

Who makes those manifolds Marc?

Thanks

youngrodder 12-15-2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrodelrod (Post 7796578)
Who makes those manifolds Marc?

Thanks

They are made by Holley (Hooker brand). I went with the natural finish because I'm cheap. For my look I will probably wrap them in fiberglass anyway.

Here is a link. I got mine locally to save on shipping.
https://www.holley.com/products/ls_p...ust_manifolds/

Marc

youngrodder 12-15-2016 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by murd969 (Post 7796418)
I like the build. It's looking great.

Thanks. I was out of state for a week for work then deathly sick. I have a week off of work over the holidays so I would like to get some work done on the Suburban very soon.

Marc

hotrodelrod 12-15-2016 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7797138)
They are made by Holley (Hooker brand). I went with the natural finish because I'm cheap. For my look I will probably wrap them in fiberglass anyway.

Here is a link. I got mine locally to save on shipping.
https://www.holley.com/products/ls_p...ust_manifolds/

Marc

Thanks Marc!

Rick

youngrodder 12-26-2016 11:59 PM

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Well I have the week off of work so I'm going to spend some time in the garage in hopes to catch up to Doug. It was over 50 degrees today in Michigan which is crazy for December. I decided it was a good day to pull the 20's off of my 48 to throw them on the 53 suburban to check fitment. I also started to fit the inner fenders. The goal is 22" rims up front with full OE inner fenders. I have such a nice set of OE inner fenders that it pained me to cut them up to fit to my Porterbuilt drop member. I also spent a few minutes to weld up a few small holes in an effort to clean up the inner fenders.

On to the pics.

mongocanfly 12-27-2016 12:19 AM

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Marc this is a killer pic

reaper71 12-27-2016 10:34 AM

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Looking good Marc.

Mark..

STOCKISH 12-27-2016 12:12 PM

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Cant wait to see more of this!

69CST-V 12-27-2016 05:19 PM

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Looks great!!!

Advanced Design 12-27-2016 10:02 PM

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How did the wheel and tire fit?

Those inner are really solid pieces. Looks like it is all fitting well Marc.

youngrodder 12-27-2016 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mongocanfly (Post 7806127)
Marc this is a killer pic

Thanks I had wondered for quite some time how it would look.


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Originally Posted by reaper71 (Post 7806274)
Looking good Marc.

Mark..

Thanks Mark

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Originally Posted by STOCKISH (Post 7806346)
Cant wait to see more of this!

Thanks, I hope to make some decent progress in the months to come.

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Originally Posted by 69CST-V (Post 7806566)
Looks great!!!

Thanks man

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7806793)
How did the wheel and tire fit?

Those inner are really solid pieces. Looks like it is all fitting well Marc.

The wheels fit pretty good. I want to roll my front fender wheel opening lips and trim a tab that I won't be using for the fender brace. This was a little trick I did on the 48 in an effort to squeeze as much room as I can. The inner fenders don't look to interfere at all. The wheel hits the fender when aired out and I turn. more work to be done here.

I have since went back and added some material back to the inner fenders to improve the look/fit. I'm liking the fit more and more..

Marc

ptc 12-28-2016 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7797141)
Thanks. I was out of state for a week for work then deathly sick. I have a week off of work over the holidays so I would like to get some work done on the Suburban very soon.

Marc

Man I can relate to this!!!! just finally getting back to mine after getting sick on a plane just after Thanksgiving....

Project looking really nice!!!

99 to Life 12-28-2016 10:00 AM

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looks great. I too woulda cringed cutting up them inners.

youngrodder 12-28-2016 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ptc (Post 7806975)
Man I can relate to this!!!! just finally getting back to mine after getting sick on a plane just after Thanksgiving....

Project looking really nice!!!

Thanks man

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7807130)
looks great. I too woulda cringed cutting up them inners.

Yes, but I'm liking them so much more than the flimsy inner fenders on my 48. I used some from ******n products because they went with the firewall. I like how they are turning out. I have went back and added more metal in parts to get them really fitting the contour of the frame rails better.

Marc

99 to Life 12-28-2016 09:23 PM

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the extra work will pay off. are you painting the engine bay area? I personally love the stock inners. its just one of the things the factory did so well from the gate. glad you are using them. IMO the newer parts in the engine bay have more contrast with some of the old original features of the truck. If everything looks new I feel like the balance is off and it feels too modern. To me I like the contrast of old and new, more toward the old!

youngrodder 12-29-2016 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7807705)
the extra work will pay off. are you painting the engine bay area? I personally love the stock inners. its just one of the things the factory did so well from the gate. glad you are using them. IMO the newer parts in the engine bay have more contrast with some of the old original features of the truck. If everything looks new I feel like the balance is off and it feels too modern. To me I like the contrast of old and new, more toward the old!

Yes, I see what your saying. Yes the engine bay will be painted and very detailed, even if the outside is not painted nice..

Marc


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