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Strodder 03-05-2009 12:09 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Good idea Allan, but what do you have to do to the inner shaft make the switch work? Isn't there an easier way? You got me thinking now.

70 Suburban 03-05-2009 01:14 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I would just bypass the nutral safty switch

Alan's Classic 03-05-2009 11:24 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3181314)
Good idea Allan, but what do you have to do to the inner shaft make the switch work? Isn't there an easier way? You got me thinking now.

The pix will explain

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3181415)
I would just bypass the nutral safty switch

I've seen 2 mishaps over the years due to that. It's not worth the risk of killing someone.

After I got my measurements and a plan this is what happened. I didn't take pix of the cut I made on the inner tube where the switch is activated. It looks almost like the original hole just in a different location.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08968.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08969.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08970.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08971.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08973.jpg

And there is continuity in park. I tacked everything in place and checked with a meter before I weld everything up.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC08974.jpg

Strodder 03-05-2009 11:28 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
NICE:metal:

joe231 03-05-2009 11:55 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
nice work Alan!

protrash64 03-06-2009 12:02 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I get it....sorry dude. I see whats up now; thats slick. Was the switch interfering with something? Your mount is clean too. My column installed by the PO has a cobbled up mount combined of the late(?) 70's column mount and the original. The column is also too short.

Alan's Classic 03-06-2009 12:34 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3182482)
NICE:metal:

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3182556)
nice work Alan!


:thumbs:X2

Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3182576)
I get it....sorry dude. I see whats up now; thats slick. Was the switch interfering with something? Your mount is clean too. My column installed by the PO has a cobbled up mount combined of the late(?) 70's column mount and the original. The column is also too short.

I slid the column down (forward) 2". That put the nuetral safety in the firewall. There is a pic on the previous page. No need to be sorry.;) Thanks.

protrash64 03-06-2009 12:39 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
The slot on the inner cylinder wasnt registering to me. Probably because I havent torn apart a column before. I knew it worked mechanically.

neto 03-06-2009 01:08 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Man I'm tired, just went through the whole thread again to find how you welded the rocker to the floor. I noticed you made holes in the new rocker. Did you use a spot weld bit? Every time I go through your thread I find something new I learned. This is like my third time I have gone through it.
Thank you.

sdailey 03-06-2009 08:40 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Alan,

The switch relocation looks slick. Good job.:metal:

4dranch 03-06-2009 09:49 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdailey (Post 3182973)
Alan,

The switch relocation looks slick. Good job.:metal:

:agree: really nice work Alan,
And thanks for taken the time to share with us.

Alan's Classic 03-06-2009 10:22 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3182664)
The slot on the inner cylinder wasnt registering to me. Probably because I havent torn apart a column before. I knew it worked mechanically.

Hopefully I have cleared up a mystery for you.;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by neto (Post 3182713)
Man I'm tired, just went through the whole thread again to find how you welded the rocker to the floor. I noticed you made holes in the new rocker. Did you use a spot weld bit? Every time I go through your thread I find something new I learned. This is like my third time I have gone through it.
Thank you.

I used a spot weld bit to drill the holes on top of the outer rocker where it lays on the inner rocker. Maybe I should go back thru my own build . I might learn something or see something I forgot to take care of. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdailey (Post 3182973)
Alan,

The switch relocation looks slick. Good job.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3183064)
:agree: really nice work Alan,
And thanks for taken the time to share with us.

Thanks X2 and your welcome.

Had a little time to shave the key hole and fill today. The pix are pretty much self explanatory.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08975.jpg

I made the cut with a thin cutoff wheel and cleaner up with a grinder. (It's aluminum)

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08978.jpg

Put a piece of tape to plug the hole for the next step.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08979.jpg

This stuff is great for bonding panels and have used it in some other circumstances, so why not try it here.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08980.jpg

It is slow to dry. It needs at least 4 hours at 70 degrees, 24 to fully cure. Once cured it can be dressed down and maybe wiped with a thin coat of filler if needed.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08981.jpg

Finished welding and grinding.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08982.jpg

Went ahead and wiped it to clean it up a little more.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08983.jpg

jgh64pkup 03-06-2009 11:12 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
lookin good:metal:

Alan's Classic 03-11-2009 08:47 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3184199)
lookin good:metal:

Thanks Man

Not a whole lot going on here, just enjoying the beautiful weather. As most know I picked up another truck for the hood. I've got the rest of the truck in the classified section with a choice of one of my other 2 hoods. I've kind of got out of the groove. Trying to get back in the saddle. I think we have all been there. You decide to take a day or 2 off then before you know it it is a week later.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Photo0019.jpg

Strodder 03-11-2009 09:28 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3192538)
I think we have all been there. You decide to take a day or 2 off then before you know it it is a week later.

I know what you mean. I need to get back on mine.

jonzcustomshop 03-12-2009 08:27 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
In my case... since september!
I did go stare at it for an hour yesterday... does that count?:lol:

MacAttack 03-12-2009 10:19 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Alan, thanks for the in-depth photos and detail of what you’re doing. This effort will no doubt save many tears for a lot of folks later on and is a great example of why this forum is so important.

Mac. :chevy:

4dranch 03-12-2009 11:36 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3193362)
Alan, thanks for the in-depth photos and detail of what you’re doing. This effort will no doubt save many tears for a lot of folks later on and is a great example of why this forum is so important.

Mac. :chevy:

:agree::agree:

kizer 03-12-2009 02:44 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I hear you on the taking a break. Got cold her so I took a break for a month or two. Then right when I started getting excited it Snows for two days in the beginning of March. What gives?

Alan's Classic 03-12-2009 09:46 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop (Post 3193227)
In my case... since september!
I did go stare at it for an hour yesterday... does that count?:lol:

Looking and thinking does count.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3193362)
Alan, thanks for the in-depth photos and detail of what you’re doing. This effort will no doubt save many tears for a lot of folks later on and is a great example of why this forum is so important.

Mac. :chevy:

Thanks Mac, I'm glad ya'll enjoy and get something from the pics

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3193467)
:agree::agree:

:metal:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3193706)
I hear you on the taking a break. Got cold her so I took a break for a month or two. Then right when I started getting excited it Snows for two days in the beginning of March. What gives?

At least ya'll got some snow. I live 60 miles North of Atlanta. We didn't even get a flake. Atlanta got 2-4". It won't be long and we will be complaining about the heat.:lol:

Stayed tuned I'm fixin' to post some pix of what I got done today.

Alan's Classic 03-12-2009 09:58 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Started working on the rear wheel tubs. I used a zizz wheel to cut off bolts that were spinning. Then scraped all undercoating off.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09055.jpg

Some prior attempts at body work by PO's

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09057.jpg

I used this air hammer bit (it's my mobile plannishing hammer) to help massage the metal back into shape. I used a big piece of iron (frame rack) as a back plate while using the hammer.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09059.jpg

Here is the metal almost back in shape and some of the tools used in the process. I also used a ball peen hammer.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09058.jpg

Here is what the other side looked like when I started on it.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09065.jpg

Also primed the column.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09060.jpg

And then based with the same color as the gauge pods. This is base only no pix of it cleared yet.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09063.jpg

TimE 03-12-2009 10:51 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Looking good!!

Wish I had your skills Alan. I'm trying though!;)

Captainfab 03-13-2009 12:23 AM

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Hey Alan is this something that can be bought or was it custom made? Is that a regular air hammer you use it in? Your truck is coming along nicely. This thread is one of the ones I have to check everyday.

jason65 03-13-2009 07:46 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Looking good Alan. What are you gonna do for a bed floor?

ChiefRocka 03-13-2009 08:42 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Nice job on the column Alan...the end result looks like perfection !!

Strodder 03-13-2009 11:11 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Looken good Allan. I use the same end on my air hammer. It works on other things too. I ground off a little on the edge so it would fit some King Pin bearings. It worked perfectly.

Alan's Classic 03-13-2009 10:56 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TimE (Post 3194454)
Looking good!!

Wish I had your skills Alan. I'm trying though!;)

Thanks Tim, Kudos' too you for what you are doing. We all have to start somewhere. I couldn't imagine doing this kind of surgery without any experience. If you ever get a chance to replace a welded on piece that is OE and not after market, do it. You will be amazed at how much easier it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3194612)
Hey Alan is this something that can be bought or was it custom made? Is that a regular air hammer you use it in? Your truck is coming along nicely. This thread is one of the ones I have to check everyday.

Thanks Captain, It's a long barrel air hammer from snapon. I've used several different types and this is my favorite cause I can control the throttle really nicely. Some air hammers are either on or off no in between. You could probably use an air regulator of some sort on other hammers. The bit can be bought at many locations. I got mine off a tool truck. I even use it to put door skins on. My air hammer has a quick release on it for the bits. It replaces the old spring. Money well spent. $30-40

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09074.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09075.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3194842)
Looking good Alan. What are you gonna do for a bed floor?

Thanks Jason, I'll be using redoak (maybe) with polished stainless steel strips.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 3194911)
Nice job on the column Alan...the end result looks like perfection !!

Thanks John, Had some trying times with the column, but it turned out pretty good overall. Now I have to reassyemble it with out scratching.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3195095)
Looken good Allan. I use the same end on my air hammer. It works on other things too. I ground off a little on the edge so it would fit some King Pin bearings. It worked perfectly.

Thanks Strodder, I also use it on frame rails during a frame pull on areas I can't use a regular hammer to stress relieve the metal.

On to new news. Got another shelving unit. Nice and clean for now........

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC09067-1.jpg

I can finally get all or most of my loose pieces for the truck back in one spot.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC09070-1.jpg

Also picked up this air compressor. It's a 7.5HP 80 gal 2 stage pump. I need to locate a pump and pully and test the motor. If anyone has any connections for a pump please let me know.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09071.jpg

Blocked both the doors with 400

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09078.jpg

Used a mini DA with 400 on some rough areas of the jamb and scuffed the rest down with a grey scotch brite pad. Ready for sealer and some color.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09077.jpg

Inverter 03-14-2009 12:45 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Dang Alan, You sure know your metal work. I noticed this thread is always at the top. You have em sittin on the edge.;)
I enjoy lookin through here,always somethin new.

Strodder 03-15-2009 11:19 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3196227)
Also picked up this air compressor. It's a 7.5HP 80 gal 2 stage pump. I need to locate a pump and pully and test the motor. If anyone has any connections for a pump please let me know.

I don't know your budget, but here's some.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._6970_87+90145

Alan's Classic 03-15-2009 04:47 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inverter (Post 3196424)
Dang Alan, You sure know your metal work. I noticed this thread is always at the top. You have em sittin on the edge.;)
I enjoy lookin through here,always somethin new.

Thanks man. I try.;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3198566)
I don't know your budget, but here's some.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._6970_87+90145

Thanks for the link. I don't have a budget anymore. I was hoping someone had one laying around that was extra or there motor was bad. I can always use the tank for extra storage. I sure would like to have the extra pressure and volume.;)

Got out in the shop for quite a while today. Spent most of it cleaning up. Tony and Strodder's shop is my inspiration. Maybe someday I'll get it right.
The pile in the floor is trash.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09114.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09116.jpg

Got a blind hung and somemore family antiques hung.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09117.jpg

On too the truck. The column is back in.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09120.jpg

Nuetral safety

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09121.jpg

Ummmmmm..........I think I know where everything goes.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09124.jpg

Now the fun part sanding the jambs getting the cab ready for paint. There is still alot of work to do to get the cab ready.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09125.jpg

scotts62 03-15-2009 09:52 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Wow man its looking really good!! :metal:

Alan's Classic 03-16-2009 03:16 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotts62 (Post 3199750)
Wow man its looking really good!! :metal:

Thanks Scott. Sometimes I wonder if I will ever drive it.

Left work early today due to lack of work. Worked again on the column to see if I could get it back together. Here is kind of a step by step. The tilt mechanism is already in.

Here is the tilt spring going in.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09132.jpg

I found that a #2 phillips does a great job of pushing the spring and doing a 1/4 turn to lock in place.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09134.jpg

Go ahead and run the turn signal switch wires if you haven't done so yet. Then install the upper shroud.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09135.jpg

Install the turn signal switch

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09136.jpg

Install the hazard light knob, turn signal lever and horn contact with spring under it.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09137.jpg

Here's a fun part. Make sure the column shaft to the gearbox is installed. If not the steering shaft will push down into the column and will be impossible to get the snap ring on. Getting it off wasn't fun either. It probably would have been easier with it installed in the truck when removing it (snap ring). I don't have the special tool that they called for. I used 2 medium common screw drivers and pushed evenly on both sides of the snap ring until I got the snap ring to lock into place.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09138.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09139.jpg

Other than getting a new steering wheel and some new (bling) levers. I can call this done. As long as it works.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09147.jpg

While I was down in the floor I noticed that the holes that I drilled to mount the fuse panel have an issue. The top left hole is right behind the inner fender flange. Uh Oh.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09140.jpg

sdailey 03-16-2009 03:42 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Good job on getting that column back together.:lol:

Bummer about the bolt holes though.

Alan's Classic 03-16-2009 06:44 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdailey (Post 3201069)
Good job on getting that column back together.:lol:

Bummer about the bolt holes though.

Thanks Shannon. The hole just goes along with all my other learning experinces:lol:

I got something else completed today. The sway bar brackets got mounted to the frame. I was just dreading drilling upside down.:lol:

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09149.jpg

Also ripped the front sheet metal off again to finish up the cab. Notice the gloves to protect the paint on the frame.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...2/DSC09148.jpg

4dranch 03-16-2009 10:40 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Super work Alan,
Ever thought about doing a show on the PBS channel?
You could call it "THIS OLE TRUCK"

Alan's Classic 03-16-2009 11:02 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3201970)
Super work Alan,
Ever thought about doing a show on the PBS channel?
You could call it "THIS OLE TRUCK"

:hmm::haha::smoke::haha:

Alan's Classic 03-17-2009 08:06 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Found this damaged F$rd Ranger tailgate at work today and the wheels started turning.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09155.jpg

I think ya'll know where I'm going with this.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09156.jpg

I can do body work, but I struggle with custom stuff. I believe I can make this work. The latch on the bedside post is just stuck in there. The center of the latch hole needs to be about 3" from the top according to my quick measurements. Actually the top hole of the stricker might line up with the factory bolt hole at the top on the bedside.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09157.jpg

Here are all of the pieces laid out.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09158.jpg

I think with a little modifications this will fit.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09159.jpg

The complete handle assy is a little thick. But if I put a curved raised access panel on the inside of the tailgate it might work. I've got to do some more measurements. No matter how much I think about it I won't think of everything. I've seen alot of ideas posted about chainless tailgates, but haven't seen one done like this. If I have I can't recall it. Please give me some feedback about possible problems I might incur.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...e/DSC09165.jpg

Strodder 03-17-2009 09:03 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Just a thought Allan. Put the handle on the inside, and keep the tailgate smooth. Like they do on the newer trucks. They make a handle relocation kit for them. Like this one.
https://www.carolinaclassictrucks.co...relocator.html

502tripower 03-17-2009 09:54 PM

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Allen your progress is looking good. Love the silver on the insterments and column. I did a similar deal on the tailgate using a wrecked late models S10 gate. I also thought about putting the handle on the inside but as you said it was to wide for the gate and would have had to build a panel to accommodate the depth of the handle. I cut down the strikes and latches and they nicely into the bedsides and gate. In order to attach them I drilled holes were they needed to attach and then drilled and tapped some 5/16" flat bar. Then pulled the flat bar up in form behind with a piece of tie wire welded to the end of some alltread that I had screwed into the mounting holes. Then plug welded it in. I decided to just weld some nuts onto the latches and use some nice chrome Pike nuts and made some stainless bezels for the pikes to slide on instead of messing with the latch. I also welded up the detent on the bedside. I will use the pike nuts on the outside of the tailgate were the cable attaches as well.

jason65 03-17-2009 10:16 PM

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