Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

OK... So let me get this straight......... I can use my stock LQ4 oil pan and Phil is full of #$%!&#%^$^*!. Dennis... PLEASE stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

sorry bro. the more i think about the conversation we had and what he's telling you it just gets me torqued up.

i hate people trying to get over on others and i hate people(especially business's) giving out wrong info about something they have no idea about.

anyways, no. you wont need their pan. Bob's changing his because he lives in 4 by country and he's lowering the truck more.;) the pan hangs anywhere between 1-2" below the front xmember. hopefully in the next couple day(weather permiting) i can give you an exact measurement.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Hey man no problem. That is why I never went to see him, the more I talked to him :bsf: and the more I read the post from all the people on these treads, I felt just like you. You guys have nothing to gain for the info you put on these boards just putting out lessons learned to people trying to follow in your foot steps and learning from your mistakes. And I for one really appreciate it.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

There is a reason my thread hit 50 pages. Nuttin but good info, gather by a whole bunch of good people for EVERYONES use, and for FREE!!

Yeah, I'm planning on putting my own kit together and yeah, I plan on making a profit from it. But anyone with an internet connection can and will be able to see for themselves that whatever I do, works. And if they don't want to buy what I plan on making, there is more than enough info and options on here for them to do for free. And if that's the route they go, I will help them. For free.

Dennis is right about the pan. The ONLY reason I am considering swapping is because I want to go about 1-2" lower, 2" max though. The stock 06 truck pan hangs 2-1/2" below the crossmember. As is, it's no problem at all. There is no speed bump or curb that scares me. There is also no clearance problems. BUT..... if you move the engine forward from where I put mine (by using different adapter plates than I did), you might have problems with the back of the crossmember. Then again, you might not. I can only verify what I did.

Phil can bite us all. His kit may require the use of the LH8 pan kit, and his kit may very well be designed that way. Easy profit if you make a kit that requires another kit that requires yet another kit in order for it to work. :lol:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

weather was nice today hopefully its good on your days off man

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

:metal: well said Bob! now about that kit!? :haha:

Brandon, your more than welcome to come by man. i hope the weather holds out. it was real nice the last part of today!!

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

i will text you tomorrow on my last break to get your address then ill go on by..

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Dennis, do you really need those engine covers at your house right now?

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

pm sent. call me tomorrow

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

You beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing. :haha:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

This is the reason I am a site supporter!! People like this are PRICELESS. I can't begain to name of all the people that have giving great info on these LS swaps. Thank You to all of you.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Aaaaw, it's getting all warm and fuzzy in here. Now, Dennis, enough playing on the computer, we all want to see that LQ9 in the chassis man.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

just read up on this whole thread. lots of good info here. I'm actually kind of overloaded!
Just a few things I noticed and would like to mention.

I love those HO emblems on the engine cover, I think you should try and leave those on and remove the caddy emblems.

Also I saw you ask how to verify your tranny is a 4l80E and no one answered you. I am sure you have figured out by now it is, but for future reference the 60E doesn't have the center-upper bell housing bolt that yours(the 80E) has.

Lastly, I am glad to hear about your loan. Surely you can find somewhere to spend that money you save every month.

I will be following your progress and am excited to see what is next.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

:metal: right on man! thanks...


ok Josh, progress is progress right? i know this is minimal at best but today i fixed my front center link and tie rod ends that i installed wrong. (thanks to Jonboy and Super Bob) i also took off the fuel system lines. and... ready for this!? i UNBOLTED THE TORQUE CONVERTER!;) in the morning i'm going to ship off my frc's to Gerald so he can give them the smooth treatment and maybe? paint them body color. then i'm going to clean and paint the tranny.

think this will work???... paint the top of the tranny and mate it with the motor. then lift the motor/trans with the hoist and finish painting the bottom pans of both motor and trans together. then take the tranny pan off to drain and replace filter. then sit motor in chassis...

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

forgot i tried to mount the new high pressure switching valve today and it wont fit between the frame rails... maybe i got the wrong one?

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

I would just clean the trans pan really well and not even paint it. I dont know if it's the metal they're made of or what but the last two I painted peeled shortly after, primer and all??? Or maybe look into one of those aluminum trans pans that are finned and work as a trans cooler? Those are pretty sick. Definately clean and paint the oil pan like you were talking about with it hanging from the hoist. Glad you made some progress today! Better find some pics before the picture police come around though.:lol:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

:lol: ya i know proof is in the pictures! maybe i wont paint the trans pan...

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

I got the same one Bob got, is that the same one you got? Did your truck have dual tanks originally?

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

yea, i got the same one. does your fit between the rails? mine is too big.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

I havent tried mine yet. Will be pulling the bed off last to do the fuel system.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

i'll take some pics today. i double checked Bob's part #'s to mine then the part #'s on my reciept to the jcwhitney #;s all the same. might have to make a bracket or something for it...

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

You keep mentioning that it won't fit "between" the frame rails. I think you might be mounting it wrong. It mounts to the top rail, and sort of lays down so-to-speak. Then again, the mounting position might be slightly different from 73-80 and 81-87.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

i gottcha... i was trying to mount it like i mounted the other on. right on the frame rail. thanks Bob.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

One more taken a little farther back.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Super Bob to the rescue. Thanks man.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

:lol:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

its family night tonight but i did get more done today. i'll post up pics tomorrow.

Gerald, good talking to you man the frc's are going to turn out SICK!! (draggin86)Billy, good meeting you and thanks for all the help. you make this stuff look EASY! (54caddy)Brandon good meeting you too man. your truck is sweet!

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

You bet man, you too. Hopefully it will be some good inspiration for you.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

thanks man, yours will be alot nicer, are you going to use the idea of the engine covers that i told you?? hahah if you do im going to trademark them ahahahaha

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Haha thanks man... i been there quite a few times i know it is.. it comes to me a lot easier now! truck looks great by the way!

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

hell its not even a truck its just a frame and it looks damn good..

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

:metal: alright guys here's the pics! the trans is out of a '05 3/4 ton so i got lucky on the fluid i used in the torque converter. mobil 1 full synthetic. and here's the motor mounts.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

on my clam shell i wont have to cut out the hump because it actually goes the opposite way most do and the plates sit flush. yesterday i picked up a new tool box from my neighbor and cut the work bench so it would fit. i cleaned up the garage and organized the tools.:metal:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

so yesterday Billy(draggin86) come over and took a look at the engine stands. we decided that it would be easier to just move the frame stands back 2" and weld on a 1/4" plate to the front x member. this is just basicly a modded "FRED MOD". Billy made a template out of cardboard to follow the lines of the x member and engine stand. We just measured back 2 1/8" from the orig. location. He also took the adaptor plate and cut off the triangle part. i have pics on my phone he sent but cant get them on here. Monday we are going to weld the piece on and bolt everything up so we can get some measurements for a tranny x member.

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

i still need to pick up my trans dip stick tube, fly wheel cover, and a few othe misc parts from Parts Planet. I have also been planning out the smoothing of the firewall and painting it and line x'ing the bottom of the cab after i weld in my patch panel so i can get the cab on.

my plan is by spring to have the cab mounted with the fire wall smoothed and painted Red Jewel and the underside coated so i can hook up the electrical and gauges and fire this motor up. I am really stoked!! If the weather stays like this ITS ON!!:D

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Looks awesome man. Thats exactly how I did my engine stand. Just seemed easier for me to do here at home without alot of fab tools. Glad to see your progress. Looks great!:metal:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Looking Great!:metal:

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

damn i was going to cruise by yesterday too but landed up working on electrical problems on my buddys car, going to be working on it today or you have to work??

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

Looks great dude! Love that bright aluminum color, it will really pop in the engine bay. That was a great idea. ;)

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 

I agree with Gerald that is going to look good in there man. :metal: