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99 to Life 08-29-2015 11:44 PM

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glad to hear about your wife. as for tank.... I'd find a location where you can access it the best you can. If that is your only option right there. I'd opt for two tanks. One 5 gallon tank (actually less than 5gallon even though they say 5g) would air you up maybe twice before comps kick on, just my guess. I'v been having to air up and down while driving here in PA cause the roads suck. So my 5 gal tank isn't the best or worst. My two 450 viaairs take about 5 min to fill from zero.

oldman3 08-30-2015 09:41 AM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Doug, glad Cindy is doing so well. Wish I could help, but no nothing about air systems...Jim

65sub 08-30-2015 12:48 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
I'm glad things are looking better with your wife's medical situation. For the tank installation I'd opt for one tank, less complicated and you don't have to buy two more tanks. Does the tank in the picture tuck up higher? Otherwise it might be a low point.

joedoh 08-30-2015 01:19 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
looks like the running board will be 3-4 inches lower than the tank in the position its in, so low point may be a relative term ;)

I wouldnt move the running board bracket but I only say that because its just extra work. is there room inboard? where are you putting your gas tank? on my 65 the gas tank was inboard on the left and I could have put a couple air tanks on the right.

I also agree with 99tolife, that a smallish tank will have faster recovery but you will run out of air on about every lift. have you picked compressors? I would consider an engine driven compressor over electric, and with a small tank recovery time is seconds, not minutes. if you are planning on a 5-6 gal tank, get an EDC I guess is the point I am making.

prayers for your wife! I would be lost without mine, so heres to you

Advanced Design 08-30-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7292119)
glad to hear about your wife. as for tank.... I'd find a location where you can access it the best you can. If that is your only option right there. I'd opt for two tanks. One 5 gallon tank (actually less than 5gallon even though they say 5g) would air you up maybe twice before comps kick on, just my guess. I'v been having to air up and down while driving here in PA cause the roads suck. So my 5 gal tank isn't the best or worst. My two 450 viaairs take about 5 min to fill from zero.

Thanks 99! This location "seems" good though is pretty tight. And it is a no go once the middle running board bracket is installed. It will be difficult to connect the lines as well. I had one compressor and a 5 gallon tank on the truck...took to long too air up and raise.

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Originally Posted by oldman3 (Post 7292296)
Doug, glad Cindy is doing so well. Wish I could help, but no nothing about air systems...Jim

Thanks Jim! Prayers being answered! Jim, I know very little. I do know the next build will be on springs! :)

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Originally Posted by 65sub (Post 7292474)
I'm glad things are looking better with your wife's medical situation. For the tank installation I'd opt for one tank, less complicated and you don't have to buy two more tanks. Does the tank in the picture tuck up higher? Otherwise it might be a low point.

Appreciate that 65sub! I prefer the one tank approach too. The tank will tuck up more if I change the mounting bracket and move the running board bracket. Thinking I will find another solution.

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 7292517)
looks like the running board will be 3-4 inches lower than the tank in the position its in, so low point may be a relative term ;)

I wouldnt move the running board bracket but I only say that because its just extra work. is there room inboard? where are you putting your gas tank? on my 65 the gas tank was inboard on the left and I could have put a couple air tanks on the right.

I also agree with 99tolife, that a smallish tank will have faster recovery but you will run out of air on about every lift. have you picked compressors? I would consider an engine driven compressor over electric, and with a small tank recovery time is seconds, not minutes. if you are planning on a 5-6 gal tank, get an EDC I guess is the point I am making.

prayers for your wife! I would be lost without mine, so heres to you

Thanks Joedoh...she is the center of my universe since 1978. Glad she figured I was a keeper!

Inboard of the frame will get really tight. There is less ...or seems less...height space than on the truck. There might be room if I noodle on it more. I have three electric compressors already. They sent me one too many and I've tried to send it back. Anyway, the 5 gallon tank should be filled OK with the two compressors.

The gas tank will be at the rear (I think) between the frame rails. I could mount the tank and compressors inboard on left side and possibly run exhaust pipes on the right side. Not wild about that option though.

Thanks for the input and ideas guys. Lot's of smart creative people here and I appreciate your help...I need all I can get!

CHIZZLER 08-30-2015 05:11 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
My tank is only 20" long and fits well. It looks like you would have room to drop it down and back. The lowest point on the truck would be the bottom of the running boards brackets. Glad your wife is doing better.

Advanced Design 08-30-2015 05:35 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
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Originally Posted by CHIZZLER (Post 7292748)
My tank is only 20" long and fits well. It looks like you would have room to drop it down and back. The lowest point on the truck would be the bottom of the running boards brackets. Glad your wife is doing better.

Thanks Chizzler. Good point about the bottom of the running board brackets. Joedoh mentioned that too. I can go down a little more. This tank is 30 inches and a 20 inch tank would clear. Is yours a 3 gallon tank? Prayers for your wife too.

CHIZZLER 08-30-2015 06:19 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
I believe the tank is also a 5 gallon. It barely fit between the frame and running boards. Thanks for your prayers. Wife is doing better.

Iceburgh 08-30-2015 09:10 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
curious on your tank as well.
I now have mine up on jack stands and waiting for airride to come in, should be here this week.
I am way to low....I scuffed the bottom of the fender pretty good. Before I do any more damage I took off the drop spindles and will go with shockwaves.
Much better than doing bodywork and repaint.
So far I have had to repiant the fender and the hood

Advanced Design 08-30-2015 09:34 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
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Originally Posted by Iceburgh (Post 7293078)
curious on your tank as well.
I now have mine up on jack stands and waiting for airride to come in, should be here this week.
I am way to low....I scuffed the bottom of the fender pretty good. Before I do any more damage I took off the drop spindles and will go with shockwaves.
Much better than doing bodywork and repaint.
So far I have had to repiant the fender and the hood

Wow, fender and hood repaint...what happened to the hood?

I will follow Chizzler's lead and size out a 5 gallon tank 20 inches long. Will try it where I show the 30 inch tank. Hopefully the diameter won't be too large and will clear the running board.

Iceburgh, please share what direction you go too. Thanks!

99 to Life 08-30-2015 10:48 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Id have to go back and see how your suspension is laid out again to give any input on a relocation. Even thought that tank isn't the "lowest" point, its still highly vulnerable to getting hit, and if its tight squeeze, wouldn't be fun replacing or getting to it. But... sometimes you have no options. Before I put mine where it is, I was seriously considering putting it behind my seat. bottom line, a 5 gallon tank really isn't 5 gallon, and two comps is a MUST, which also adds to the chaos of placement and more wiring.

also the way the tank is clocked, there wouldn't be a port to have a drain valve. I think that it would be best to clock in a position for that. Although, I just opened up my drain valve and nothing came out at all, and its an aluminum tank, been putting air to it since winter.

lower50's 08-31-2015 04:57 AM

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I know my frame is different but I have 2- 4 gal. They are a spun aluminum tank you can get them 18", 24" mine and 28" long.
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Advanced Design 08-31-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7293204)
Id have to go back and see how your suspension is laid out again to give any input on a relocation. Even thought that tank isn't the "lowest" point, its still highly vulnerable to getting hit, and if its tight squeeze, wouldn't be fun replacing or getting to it. But... sometimes you have no options. Before I put mine where it is, I was seriously considering putting it behind my seat. bottom line, a 5 gallon tank really isn't 5 gallon, and two comps is a MUST, which also adds to the chaos of placement and more wiring.

also the way the tank is clocked, there wouldn't be a port to have a drain valve. I think that it would be best to clock in a position for that. Although, I just opened up my drain valve and nothing came out at all, and its an aluminum tank, been putting air to it since winter.

Thanks 99. Good point about the clocking for a drain port. Will be sure to do that. This is one I will have to play around with I think. Really appreciate the input.

Advanced Design 08-31-2015 10:34 AM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Appreciate the ideas lower50's. This is one I may need to pursue. Looks like a nice set up you put together!


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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7293380)
I know my frame is different but I have 2- 4 gal. They are a spun aluminum tank you can get them 18", 24" mine and 28" long.
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CHIZZLER 08-31-2015 11:33 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
This is about the same tank I used. Look at the dimensions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-8-P...ff7135&vxp=mtr

99 to Life 08-31-2015 11:44 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
buzz is in my back yard practically. what is your max length you can go?
I like this tank, esp for you, you can kick it side ways and have a drain port still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zenith-5...3D111394262390

Advanced Design 09-01-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIZZLER (Post 7294483)
This is about the same tank I used. Look at the dimensions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-8-P...ff7135&vxp=mtr

Thanks Chizzler!


5 Gallon 8 Port Air Tank

Looking for more air? The five gallon tank offers the perfect amount of air storage to run train horns, pneumatic tools and other on-board air applications. Equipped with 8 half inch ports, this tank allows for many high-flow applications that could prove difficult with the smaller sized ports found on smaller tanks. It is also rated to twice its working pressure of 150 PSI, while meeting all DOT standards, and stands on legs for easy mounting options.

Specifications:

Volume: 5 Gallons (18.93 Liters)
1/2" Ports: 7
3/4" Port: 1 On Face
Rated Max Pressure: 300 PSI
Working Pressure: 150 PSI
Burst Pressure: 800 PSI
Length: 20.5 in (520.7 mm)
Diameter: 9.5 in (241.3 mm)
Height: 11.5 in (292.1 mm)
Weight: 20 lbs (9.07 Kg)

Advanced Design 09-01-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7294499)
buzz is in my back yard practically. what is your max length you can go?
I like this tank, esp for you, you can kick it side ways and have a drain port still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zenith-5...3D111394262390

Than you 99! I might have 25 inches. Will install the running board bracket and make sure.

5-gallon aircraft-grade aluminum 300psi burst proof air tank. 8 ports: 4x 1/2", 4x 1/4".

mr incredible 09-23-2015 08:14 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
just found this... i will be looking forward to your progress

Advanced Design 09-23-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mr incredible (Post 7318187)
just found this... i will be looking forward to your progress

Welcome aboard mr incredible. With the yard work slowing down, I am planning some shop time Saturday to take another run at mounting the air tank and compressors.

Thanks again for the input and ideas guys. Really appreciate all the help.

Advanced Design 10-15-2015 07:11 PM

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OK, I haven't had any shop time on the Suburban. Making up for that a bit is our annual MetalMeet event in Oblong, IL happening this week. Projects, classes, food and visiting with friends is a great time!

Advanced Design 10-15-2015 07:17 PM

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A few more pictures.

Advanced Design 10-15-2015 07:19 PM

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One of our friends is the manager of the Burr King factory in Missouri and he brought the display truck. Drooling over this one.

65sub 10-15-2015 09:18 PM

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That's some cool looking tools. Did you take any home.

lower50's 10-15-2015 10:57 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
sweet lookin show

oldman3 10-15-2015 11:31 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Hey Doug, looks like you had a good time. Did you sneak anything home...Jim

CHIZZLER 10-16-2015 01:06 AM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
That looks like a great time.

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 02:04 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
Thanks guys. It is a good time with good people. I haven't picked up any tools yet thou probably will. English wheel shaping, classes, project progress and a leading seminar have been going on this morning. Guys are making fenders, patch panels, door skins, and flowers. I will try to throw some pictures up later.

ptc 10-16-2015 02:19 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7343373)
Thanks guys. It is a good time with good people. I haven't picked up any tools yet thou probably will. English wheel shaping, classes, project progress and a leading seminar have been going on this morning. Guys are making fenders, patch panels, door skins, and flowers. I will try to throw some pictures up later.

Does this show travel to CALIF ????? :metal:

very cool setup

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ptc (Post 7343407)
Does this show travel to CALIF ????? :metal:

very cool setup

No this event doesn't travel. There are a number of English wheels, bag stands, tables, and other tools that are stored in the fairground buildings. Folks gather in Oblong to share information and sharpen skills about metal shaping. Many years we have attendees from California (and around the world) and usually there are similar events there. MetalMeet,com is a good source for the events.

I have made good friends and met many talented people through this event.

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 06:52 PM

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One of the participants was modifying a 1950 GMC Suburban grill opening to house a 1952 Buick grill. It came out pretty nice.

The event is held at the Crawford County IL fairgrounds which offers a nice lake and camping spots / RV hook ups back in the trees.

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 06:57 PM

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Dagger tools is always there and he runs a metal shaping class during the event.

Tool drool...may pick the dies up tomorrow.

One of the members always has interesting pre-owned tools.

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 07:17 PM

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This is the beginning of a 1940 Willys deck lid.

Advanced Design 10-16-2015 07:18 PM

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...and just one more time through the e-wheel.

99 to Life 10-16-2015 11:30 PM

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so awesome, ironically I live in Crawford County PA hahahha. Tool drool for sure, ah I almost hate seeing tools cause I need so many.

oldman3 10-16-2015 11:57 PM

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Man I would love to be able to attend an event like that. Thanks for the pictures Doug...Jim

Advanced Design 10-17-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 7343851)
so awesome, ironically I live in Crawford County PA hahahha. Tool drool for sure, ah I almost hate seeing tools cause I need so many.

I know what you mean 99! There are always tools and tool ideas that get a guy thinking and wanting at the event.

Advanced Design 10-17-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman3 (Post 7343873)
Man I would love to be able to attend an event like that. Thanks for the pictures Doug...Jim

Jim, the event will be held again next October 11 - 16 2016. and is open to anyone who wants to attend. Registration fee for the participants has been only $100 for a number of years. That provides access to use all the tools, a reasonable supply of 19 gauge steel for your own use and attendance at any of the seminars you want to attend. Lots of the guys bring in tools and everyone shares or uses them too.

You and Mark should try to come over next year. Really a good group of people and a very friendly atmosphere.

Advanced Design 10-17-2015 07:28 PM

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Kay made this firewall this week.

Advanced Design 10-17-2015 07:30 PM

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Fender patch panel nearing completion. Really nice work by this talented participant.


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