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bj383ss 05-14-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yj4000 (Post 7169539)
That really, really looks good!! Have fun with the wiring. Just take your time and take brakes when you feel like it is never going to end. That way you won't get burnt out or make mistakes. By the way did I tell you that it is really look'in good.

Ryan.

Thank You

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Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy (Post 7169715)
Have fun with that wiring man. lol Be sure to let me know all the secret hiding spots you found for the wiring. ;)

Will do T.J. I plan to document the whole wiring process as I have had to piece together a lot of stuff from different websites and threads on here.

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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 7170152)
Loving it and the madness!!!

Thank You

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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 7170187)
X2 on the previous comments...:mm:

and the look...:metal:

:metal:

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Originally Posted by dwcardfan (Post 7170869)
Sweet!!

Like candy!

Well I just ordered me some crimpers from Amazon. I did a ton of research on crimpers and open barrel 56 series Packard terminals!!! My brain is fried! I know for sure the crimpers I bought will do single crimping not sure about the double crimps I need to make. If they don't work I will just rent the double crimpers from AAW as I don't have that many double crimps to do.

Also for anyone interested in cool electrical stuff download the hot rod catalog on the right of this page from AAW. They have a lot of cool stuff. They have the door jamb switches and they even have a courtesy light delay switch. How cool.

http://www.americanautowire.com/download-catalog/

Also been reading these sites.

http://www.rowand.net/Shop/Tech/Auto...Connectors.htm
http://www.madelectrical.com/
http://www.alanhorvath.com/54chevy/mad_electrical.php
http://stovebolt.com/techtips/electr...ade/index.html

markeb01 05-14-2015 08:03 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
I really like the idea of their "intelligent fuses" that glow when they blow out. I'm going to need a set of those eventually!

bj383ss 05-14-2015 08:28 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
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Originally Posted by markeb01 (Post 7172206)
I really like the idea of their "intelligent fuses" that glow when they blow out. I'm going to need a set of those eventually!

I saw those. Why didn't they think of that before.

aggie91 05-15-2015 10:14 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
When you say double crimps, do you mean that the wire strands are crimped to the terminal and then there is a crimp of the terminal around the insulation?

If so, the single crimp tools can do that. Just crimp the wire strands first then do the crimp on the insulation. The economy tool that I linked earlier is what I used and does the job well. I have not had an issue with any wires that I have done that way with that tool.

Thanks for those links, I think the rowand one will be helpful down the road...

bj383ss 05-15-2015 05:43 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 7173124)
When you say double crimps, do you mean that the wire strands are crimped to the terminal and then there is a crimp of the terminal around the insulation?

If so, the single crimp tools can do that. Just crimp the wire strands first then do the crimp on the insulation. The economy tool that I linked earlier is what I used and does the job well. I have not had an issue with any wires that I have done that way with that tool.

Thanks for those links, I think the rowand one will be helpful down the road...

No the double crimps are 2 wires in one terminal. Most of the double crimps are the smaller wire not sure what gauge but hoping the slot on the crimper for 10 gauge wire will work for double crimping

bj383ss 05-18-2015 08:30 AM

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Update...

Spent all day Sunday wiring. Even though my pictures don't really show the work. I was very picky about where the wires ran and being organized.

So on the engine harness I started with the 3 wires running to the starter. Two reds and a purple. One of the reds was a heavy 8 gauge that runs to the Alternator. The other red and purple went inside to the starter switch. I routed them all together and close to the block to keep them away from the header and put 3/4" convoluted tubing around them. I would have run 1/2" but it wouldn't contain the 2 big fusible links on the red wires.

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7676/1...997a43b5_b.jpg20150517_153325 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

So I came across the back of the engine and the big 8 gauge wire came out to run up to the Alternator. I ran the other two to this top firewall grommet as I all I had planned for here is the oil pressure line and it is very close to the plug on the dash harness. I ran 1/2' convoluted tubing for these 2 wires down to the 3/4" and taped together.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8790/1...275ee874_b.jpg20150517_153343 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Here are those 2 wires. My first and second crimps. Not too bad. The Crimper was adjusted a little tight so I loosened it one notch.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5461/1...295e07f9_b.jpg20150517_161447 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Here is the big red 8 gauge wire along with the brown wire from engine harness running to alternator. I used some 1/2" rubber insulated clamps bolted to the valve covers to hold in place. I also ran the hot wire for the electric choke in this tubing which is 3/8" back up to the firewall. I will crimp a male terminal on it and insert it into the engine harness. I removed 2 wires from the engine harness plug I didn't need. The Oil sending unit(since I have gauges) and the other was for alternate temp w/cold light.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8838/1...c4ebea4f_b.jpg20150517_182226 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

So in this pic you can see the engine harness coming down from the left and the pink and white wires are for the ignition and I ran the green temp wire behind the driver valve cover and down the side. Going to attach it with rubber clamps as well to the valve cover.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/1...620cebea_b.jpg20150517_182207 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

In this pic you can see the green wire on the driver side. I didn't cut any of the tubing yet it looks like a mess.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5340/1...4b4e1486_b.jpg20150517_182156 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

I pulled the MSD box, Distributor, coil, and wires from my Caprice to run in the 64'. I painted the cap black to look more like stock. I need to paint the coil black as well and clean up the wires. I originally was going to mount the box under the dash, but have since decided to either mount it under the battery tray or on the other side of the core support behind the battery. Will have to mock that up and see what fits best. The reason I choose to not mount it inside was because I would have to run 4 wires through firewall and I don't want to drill any holes.

One last thing. Here are the crimpers I bought. They work really well except for that 8 gauge wire was to big for them so I had to crimp it best I could and them some solder to make sure it was solid.

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7753/1...e281938d_b.jpg20150517_113055 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5322/1...9b2cc7ae_b.jpg20150517_113042 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

TJ's Chevy 05-18-2015 10:25 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Doing good work man!

Ta2Don 05-18-2015 10:41 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Looking Sweet!

aggie91 05-18-2015 11:56 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
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Originally Posted by bj383ss (Post 7173641)
No the double crimps are 2 wires in one terminal. Most of the double crimps are the smaller wire not sure what gauge but hoping the slot on the crimper for 10 gauge wire will work for double crimping

OK, that makes sense.

Wiring looks good and those crimps look great. I like the look of the crimper in the pics. Can you post a link or part number to the ones you bought??

dwcardfan 05-18-2015 03:54 PM

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Looks good!

yj4000 05-18-2015 09:15 PM

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Very neat and organized.

Ryan.

Jeff La 05-18-2015 11:29 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Good looking work.

bj383ss 05-19-2015 07:22 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Thanks guys for all the comments. Karl here is the link for the crimpers.

Crimper, Ratcheted, AWG 20-18, 16-14, 12-10,... Crimper, Ratcheted, AWG 20-18, 16-14, 12-10,...

Modges'66 05-21-2015 07:16 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Nice!
I wish that I had those crimpers when I did my wiring...
I still may buy a set!

Grizz1963 05-22-2015 03:23 AM

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Your build is definitely one of those addictive ones that I keep going back into Bret.

Was looking at that Russian guys woodwork this morning, and along with your work again realised just how "hammer, nails, saw " my woodwork is.

You really do put a lot of skill, thought and effort into everything you do.

Crimping looks great, thankfully I have Martin to do my crimping when we get to it.

clemdaddy 05-22-2015 06:39 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
nice clean work man... and wiring is one of those things that i choose not to do. i buy the reproduction wiring kits that just plug together. but i appreciate the challenge of doing it yourself. great job...

bj383ss 05-22-2015 08:45 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Modges'66 (Post 7181030)
Nice!
I wish that I had those crimpers when I did my wiring...
I still may buy a set!

Thanks for stopping in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizz1963 (Post 7181501)
Your build is definitely one of those addictive ones that I keep going back into Bret.

Was looking at that Russian guys woodwork this morning, and along with your work again realised just how "hammer, nails, saw " my woodwork is.

You really do put a lot of skill, thought and effort into everything you do.

Crimping looks great, thankfully I have Martin to do my crimping when we get to it.

Rian I still consider myself just an amateur and really only good at many things and not great at any one thing. HAHA. Thanks for your support.

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Originally Posted by clemdaddy (Post 7181519)
nice clean work man... and wiring is one of those things that i choose not to do. i buy the reproduction wiring kits that just plug together. but i appreciate the challenge of doing it yourself. great job...

I can understand that. After I'm done with this I may feel the same way...

Mjminino 05-22-2015 08:46 PM

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:metal:

bj383ss 05-22-2015 08:53 PM

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Updates from yesterdays work

Bought a bus bar at Lowe's and mounted it under that dash. Scrapped the paint on the outside where the bolt and washer contact to ground to the cab. Hooked the ground from the fuse box to this bolt along with a jumper wire to the bus bar. You can't really see the jumper wire in this photo.

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7747/1...32ce61e8_b.jpg20150521_111247 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Got my MSD box mounted and started routing the wires. I have to extend the two that go to the coil and the two that go to the distributor.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8799/1...fb657449_b.jpg20150521_101034 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

I mocked up the grille support and grille. I will have to notch the grill support about a 1/4" in one spot

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7656/1...9aecd44f_b.jpg20150521_100910 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7731/1...f967197b_b.jpg20150521_111151 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

After I got all the holes drilled and mounted I was feeling proud about its placement until I realized it will get wet if driven in the rain! Fortunately I don't ever plan on driving this thing in the rain. If there is even a chance it won't leave the garage. And I think the MSD box is sealed.

I can play FEF for the moment

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5462/1...ed67f912_b.jpg20150521_111109 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

bj383ss 05-24-2015 10:04 PM

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So a good friend of mine (Mjminino) whom I met on this board had a random act of kindness. He bought me the gauge cluster decal set and had it mailed to me. Arrived in the mail yesterday. I can't thank him enough. It's guys like him that make this forum such a great place to be and share ideas.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8898/1...9ac83698_b.jpgreceived_1088916494458889 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

So this was the last thing I needed to restore my gauge cluster. So that's what I did today.

Everything was sandblasted and primered last year

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8766/1...907966fa_b.jpg20150523_183823 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Krylon Satin Jade

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8878/1...76543ee2_b.jpg20150523_191439 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Shot the back and all the gauge cups with VHT Aluminum Engine Paint.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8873/1...277a2dcf_b.jpg20150524_104115 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Needles painted with Model Masters fluorescent paint 2 coats.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8845/1...136593e2_b.jpg20150524_104105 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Put the new decals on speedo first. Thought it would be hard. Turned out it was the easiest.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8845/1...9c3b4405_b.jpg20150524_110550 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

I lined all the tubes with Reflectex Aluminum tape. It makes a huge difference. Crappy pic.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5324/1...923eb8d4_b.jpg20150524_124131 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Almost there. Had to trim a 1/4" by 7/16" slot for each small gauge to allow the decals to go on. They were a little tricky to get on but used a pair of tweezers and then ironed all the bubbles and wrinkles out with a qtip. This decal set was of very high quality and I would recommend it to anyone. It is from http://parklane410.wix.com/home

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8777/1...3006d00b_b.jpg20150524_133034 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

I'm very pleased with how it came out. Everything is original except for the gauge faces with new decals.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8896/1...ca77486e_b.jpg20150524_133930 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7755/1...85320c36_b.jpg20150524_133940 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Got the wire harness all done for it.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5341/1...9fcac891_b.jpg20150524_161053 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Installed with all the cleaned switches and hooked up.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8799/1...7a5d3e44_b.jpg20150524_173350 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Also cleaned, painted and reinstalled wiper motor and wired it. I love the new ignition switch that came with AAW harness. I can't wait to start it. I pretend started several times today. HA

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5322/1...e6357c5b_b.jpg20150524_173356 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Still need to do some tidying under the dash but it is so nice to have everything clean, painted and new again.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5444/1...62a04c8d_b.jpg20150524_173507 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7764/1...39be2ed7_b.jpg20150524_173743 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

Tomorrow's plan is to work on the steering wheel and get all the column parts painted and the glovebox.

TJ's Chevy 05-24-2015 11:53 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Awesome dude! :metal: Great work! Gotta love these days off. lol :chevy:

mjh1965 05-24-2015 11:55 PM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
Looking really good Bret
Wiring looks nice and tidy . There's nothing worse than sorting out other people's wiring when it's a complete mess . That's one of my pet hates . The gauge cluster looks like brand new .

Grizz1963 05-25-2015 01:28 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
What they all say Bret.

Looking just so right.

Ta2Don 05-25-2015 08:39 AM

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Gauge cluster is sweet...:metal:

What did you use to clean the lens that has the speedo and gauge printing on it?

just a side note, are you leaving the mileage as is or rolling back to zero?

Happy Memorial Day! :flag:

bj383ss 05-25-2015 08:51 AM

Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"
 
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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 7184767)
Gauge cluster is sweet...:metal:

What did you use to clean the lens that has the speedo and gauge printing on it?

just a side note, are you leaving the mileage as is or rolling back to zero?

Happy Memorial Day! :flag:

Thank You Don

To answer your questions I used 3M mico polishing compound with a machine.
Amazon.com: 3M 06044 Imperial Compound and... Amazon.com: 3M 06044 Imperial Compound and...But I must warn you this is an original cluster lens. I had two. The other one was a repro and it buffed the lettering right off of it.

I was going to reset the speedo but couldn't figure out how. I actually increased the mileage! It doesn't really matter to me as the engine and trans are not new.

Have a good Memorial Day. Remember what is important. The Heroes who died for or freedom!


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