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Heavy duty on road diesels are "common rail" that I know of, Detroits might not be but we don't do much with newer ones.

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They are the DEBIL!!! But it's a debil we must embrace and test the limits of the dual disc in the truck and see what happens.

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havent read a lot about aftermarked ecu's for them other than a re chipping the original computer , it would be nice to see a megasuirt setup working on a diesel

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It all depends what you consider a good deal. :lol:

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You're right on the money except there is no injection pump. Just a lift pump and a high pressure pump. :lol:

On the box I have a bed floor patch panel I'm going to use and section it in. I had a hard enough time finding this steel floor so finding a second may take a while. :lol:

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There is one out called the Zeus, and there is one from Bosch but they are very expensive. EFI live is the key. We've been waiting for it ever since they developed it for the Duramaxes. :lol:

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i drive a mercedes 190 diesel here as a daily driver the blocks of the newer mercs havent chainged over the time after mine was build but they do have made it into a 220 hp turboed 4 cylinder 16 valve cdi diesel ....... would be nice to have sumting like that in my daily if it wasnt for the fact that all the stuff inside the newer mercs is tied intoo the ecu like airbag abs seatbelttentioners automatic maibe even stuff like the dashboard light and removing those instantly put the ecu intoo limp mode
one other little problem is that the pump isnt as strong as the mecanicle ones on the earlier mercs and the injectors are expensive and hard to replace as there often stuck and break inside the head
if i ever find a cheap enough cdi motor i might just build a frame and a megasuirt for it and just experiment with it until it runs whell enough and build it in

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i about filled my shorts when i looked up the price on that thing a few months ago. HOLY COW.

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there need be no talk of money amongst friends...

what you need is to take the lady friend and little curtain climber on a nice scenic vacation. i know a guy that will make sure you have a nice place to stay and where to find all the good places to eat and explore. he even has a nice old military jeep perfectly suited for high altitude adventures that he would set you up in, and knows several great trails to run. just bring that engine and everyone will be happy. hahaha

this is just such a nice place

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That's one of the biggest down falls about the common rails is the fact the injectors and injection system are so expensive to replace parts on. And when they have a major failure, it ruins a lot of expensive parts.

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:lol: That's a great idea, but IDK if my pocket book will agree with it. :uhmk:

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OK whatever its not a "injection pump" :rolleyes:

Oh alright that will work, I guess good steel floors can be pretty hard to find up there.

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man that picture mad me miss Colorado REAL BAD.

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Very cool build! Subscribing...

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I'm having issues here. :lol: Mt feminine side can't make up it's mind. I have the P-pump 24v sitting here and I have the almost complete CR. I want to get this truck running soon but still don't have my front clip back from the body shop. The money flow is the issue right now. :lol: The CR needs about $1200 or more to get running and the 24v is just waiting on injectors. So, I'm in a pickle. :lol:

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Sell the CR and get injectors for the 24V. That's my vote!



I hate CR's :)

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same here get it running darnit

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Unfortunately the Common Rail is NOT getting sold. Already sent parts to be modded into go fast goodies. P7100 for now, as the last piece is on its way for that. I know a home the Common Rail can reside in...

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any car BUT the orange chevrolet 4x4

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You mean the Hugger Orange Chevrolet?

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fixed

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Only time will tell where it lands.

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I say run the 24 valve just to get the truck running. Then you can work on the cr and get it all figured out and then swap it in. Idk much about te cummins but those cr's are pretty bad ass and I think it would be cool to have one in an older chevy.
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i am cornfused by this. p7100 is for the 24v and that is the last part for that? common rail parts are out for mods... maybe my brain function is low from to much engine degreaser....

my opinion is... put it together the way you want it the first time. if you are going to go with the CR then just give it a little more time and be happy with it completely when you fire it. $1200 comes and goes quickly and what are the odds that the rest of the truck is ready before the engine is? and then what is a month extra even if it is the hold up. this thread started back in 08. one month is nothing in a 4 year build.

i give this advice because i followed it when i built my jeep. i got all of the hard parts i really wanted in my initial build and was very pleased when it was done. my original idea was to build it in stages. the stuff that i left out is mostly still not done and it has been on the road for over 2 1/2 years

Ryan

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The P7100 is for the VP44 24V Cummins. I sent out the CP3 to be modded to a slightly larger pump for the Common Rail. So no matter what, the common rail will end up in a project. Too far invested in it to not build it now.

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30 posts on this thread since the last time pictures were posted. Doesn't that break some sort of rule? ;)

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My step dad has a CP3 that's running 27K PSI at idle, sounds like just what you need. Hahaha

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:agree:
Come on Ryan, you're gonna have to get some update pics......

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Sorry guys, there isn't a real update on it. I could snap some pics of the shelf action it has going on right now. :lol: In all actuality, this truck is more than likely going to a storage unit for a month or so. The front clip is still at the body shop and I have no time to work on the truck itself. We're swamped in customer's trucks so no time for this old girl. That's partially the reason it has taken 4yrs to get to this point. This truck has always gotten pushed out side when the next customer job rolls in. I'm going to try to stay with the common rail on this build. We'll continue collecting parts for it and IDK what the P-pumped 24v will go in. We've got plenty of options here. :lol: The moral of this story is I need a bigger shop and more than 24hrs in a day! :metal:

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iwould go the cheapist route to get it running. It won't be hard to swap engines engines or parts later on. The hard part is done. have some fun with the truck!

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The biggest problem with swapping from the 24v to a CR is the engine mounting points are in a different location, and obviously the wiring. I may have a way to get the CR in there. We'll just have to see if it works out.

I called the body shop today and he claims that he will have the front clip painted this weekend. So maybe the truck won't go to a storage unit after all.

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I hope this is a joke, otherwise give him Ryan's number and I'll set him up with injectors rather soon...

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Update time. I decided that the CR is on hold and more than likely isn't going in this truck. I had some money saved up to buy parts for the CR, but reevaluated things and this is what happened. We'll continue the CR build and stuff it in something later. For now, I dug my 24v out and got the front gear housing swapped out. The engine is ready for paint, but I'll do that after I build my turbo piping. I spent my slush fund on the Longhorn. :lol: I tried to get the big ticket items I needed to get it drivable. Here's what I got:

Nitro shocks
Steering block for the D60
DIY4X shackle flip and spring perches for the rear axle
HD hydraulics for the clutch
Billet tappet cover for the engine

I'll post pics when things arrive or I get the power plant sat back in the truck. I spoke with the body man and it's same crap there. Supposed to have my front clip done this past weekend, now it's back to this Friday. I just might have the truck running before he gets my front clip done. I better get the box done so he can set it in the corner for a few months.

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Pictures Ryan Pictures.......
BTW, I don't have a clue about your Diesel jargon :)

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good to see you got wize about the engine , sorry bout the paint thing , whell lets hope he puts some extra effort intoo making the bodywork straight as an arrow

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I'm with you Mcbassin. :lol:

They keep talking about all that diesel black magic voodoo stuff, and it goes over my head! AND I want to see more pictures. :metal:

Get busy Ryan! :lol:

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:mm: Well basiclly I removed the old front cover and gear housing and installed one for the 94-98 12v engine. To do this you have to remove the camshaft and all the valve train. I also installed a new head gasket while I was that far in to it. I also removed the oil pan and installed a new pan gasket and cleaned it all up in there. It didn't look too bad at all. I cleaned all the valve train components up and checked the rockers for wear. The 24v rockers are known for galling the lower portion of the rocker arms and the rocker pins. I don't have any pics of the engine tear down. Sorry, I'll get some of the engine later. :ito:

Supposedly the body work and priming has been done for over a month. He just keeps putting it off. So he must not want paid real badly. :devil:
Man o' man, I've been busy I tell ya. :smoke: We've been pretty swamped with customer trucks and our little bro's F-350. Still have a couple of project trucks that aren't ours to get to as well. There's just not enough time. Hopefully some time soon I can get some thing done worth taking pics of. Throwing more parts in the bed doesn't count. Does it? :lol:

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p-pumped 24v is a sweet choice too. nothing beats the rattle of the p-pump motors anyhow.

i could have so hooked you up with a steering block and the shackle reversal if i had known. i happen to know of at least one of each just laying around collecting dust. with a few tweaks the shackle mounts i made for my truck would be reversals too...

good luck with the final push

ryan

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And you tell me I don't post enough pictures....dude......whats with that ?...LMAO** lets see whats going on over there dude

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Hey Ryan, I could still use another steering block for my 76, and I have a friend whom is looking for a shackle flip. So I may be able to help you out with getting rid of them. :lol:

I love the sound of a P-pumped 24v too! Hopefully soon I might just hear one of my own. :waah: