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Moving along...Jim

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Great updates Kees. I really like the look of the air cleaner!

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Thanks guys!!

It's only a 10" air cleaner. In the near future I will try to make a "normal" 14" air cleaner to fit the propane mixer. I like the look of the bigger air cleaners much better...

The drivers side door got his first layer of black paint today.
I also took the heater out and put some sound deadener at that place.
How far up do you guys put the sound deadener?
I went all the way up....maybe a bit overkill??

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kD...=w1122-h842-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...=w1122-h842-no

I also made this little thing with two LEDs. It's bolted in the middle under the dash, so you have lights at your feet when you get in the truck :lol::metal:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ep...=w1122-h842-no

Now I am at home drawing electrical wiring diagrams. A man has to do something in this nasty wheater ;)

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When I sprayed in my Lizard skin insulation I sprayed everything.

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Nice lights.
More sound deaden-er can't be a bad thing.
Kim

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I agree with Kim, never hurts to cover everything...Jim

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Yeah, that's what I thought too...
Thanks!

Maybe this is a better pic, it goes all the way up, till under the "dashcover".

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tb...=w1122-h842-no

Also put in the switches and gauges, because I wanted to see how it looked ;)
I think it's not too bad..

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Px...=w1122-h842-no

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Nice! :metal:

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Very nice.
Kim

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NL...=w1122-h842-no

Well, grill is ready :metal:

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Looks good...Jim

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Thanks Jim!!

Over the past week I was thinking about a new fusebox panel.
One that was a bit better than the first one I made.
I came up with this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1-...A=w702-h935-no

Made a template out of cardboard, testfitted it in the truck. It's going to be at the same place, drivers side, under the dash.

I had a piece of aluminum which I could use, so I made it flat and made the hole in it for the relays and drilled it for the fuseboxes.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/y_...=w1122-h842-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8R...w=w702-h935-no

Next I wired it as far as I could out of the the truck.
The plan is to use 22 circuits and 15 relays (!).
I have seperate lowbeam and highbeam and seperate left and rightsides, that alone are 4 relays...I always had trouble with my Chevy Van lights, I want to be ahead of that!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1F...A=w702-h935-no

So maybe it's overkill, but it's much easier to locate failures in the future ;)
I did this the same way with my old '67 Volvo at the time, and also do the same when I wire Harley's (not so much circuits thou :lol:)

I make partial diagrams of all circuits, that way I can always find it back, should I need it...

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That looks good.
Kim

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Well that is pretty trick! Intimidating and cool all at the same time.

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Well done Kees, nice job...Jim

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That should work nice.

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Got a few hours at the truck today :metal:

Painted the doors black, that can dry until I put the red on, big steps for me ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/H7...w=w702-h935-no
Sorry for the crappy pic...

Also bolted the new fusepanel in to see how it would work out...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6D...g=w702-h935-no

Here you can see that the relays are somewhat bent, so that they're more horizontal:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XL...A=w702-h935-no

If you look out of the driverseat, you can hardly see the fusebox (please don't mind the rest of the mess, there's work going on ;))

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6a...Q=w702-h935-no

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Very nice.
Kim

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Looking Good!!! ----- I hope you are going to move the "RED-LINE" on that tach up to about 6500 RPM.... FLOOR IT!!!! :lol:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6a...Q=w702-h935-no

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:lol::lol:
In my mind I don't have a RED line....
But the engine might think otherwise ;)

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Doors are ready for built-up, at least when the paint is dry ;)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/f5...g=w702-h935-no

After the red was done:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sl...=w1122-h842-no

There's going to be a small white pinstripe between the black and red, but just after the doors are hanged.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/H5...Q=w702-h935-no

In the meantime I've been busy with the electrics:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dm...g=w702-h935-no

This is how it looks when you do your own wiring :lol::lol:
Don't worry, everything is gonna be just allright!! :metal:

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Looks real nice.
Kim

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Question:

When I bought the truck and looked at the wiring then, which was a mess, I noticed that the ground wire from the battery only went to the engineblock.
And from the block to the cab with a ground strap.

Is it not better to wire the ground wire to the block AND to the cab??
I don't know how it was originally?
Please explain?
Thanks!

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From the block to the cab with a good grounding strap of sufficient size and good connections will be fine. I would have a good ground to the frame as well.

Heaviest electrical load is when cranking the engine over, so the negative battery cable is on the block to handle the heavy amp load. Amp flow from everything in the cab isn't near as much so a heavy cable isn't needed.

I hope that helps answer your question.

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Yes, that sure helps!
Thanks Doug!!

There wasn't a ground wire to the chassis as well. I never thought of that too, I must say.

I know my old Chevy Van had a big wire (35 square) to the engine and a small (6 gauge) to the cab from the battery.
And ofcourse a real ground strap from block to cab.
Thats why I asked.

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Thanks for the tip Mark!

I do something similar, only I make studs on the sheetmetal inside the cab. First the paint has been removed, then a bold with those washers with teeth (don't know the word...;)) at both ends, then a nut.
The groundwires bolts then right on.

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Now I'm asking questions....
Two more:

First:

What do you guys use/make when you're running electrical wires from inside the doors to the A-pillar?
Ofcourse I saw what Ogre did with Truk, but I was looking for something a bit easier to make.
Only have to wire the doorlocks.
Any ideas with pics would be higly appreciated!

Second, for our Fleetsiders:

Can someone give me a straight on pic of the bed emblem "Fleetside"?
Rightside and leftside are the same, I thought?
And the measurements of the emblems, length and hight.

As I can't buy them here, I will paint them in high gloss black paint on the semi gloss bedsides, until I can get a hold of a set.
Painted black is hard to see, I know, I pinstriped these colors before and it should look great ;)

Thanks in advance!!!

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Kees,

For the door conduit here are two ideas.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hfm-dloombl/overview/

Can you make use of a rubber bellows style on a newer vehicle?

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Thanks Doug.

Yes, I probably could use the rubber bellow from a newer car.
I was thinking somebody has done that already from a particular car, so why invent the wheel myself ;)

The Summit loom is a great idea!
Maybe I can make such a thing....

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From the doors to A pillar the best one I saw was from a mini van sliding door.
Attachment 1494992

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I know these.
I have a 5-wire doorlock, maybe those from Mercedes will fit, but I'm not happy with all the failures they had (I used to work at a MB dealership).

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Kees heres an easy idea for wiring thru firewalls, doors, panels etc that is used in race car type stuff all the time. Its mostly use to just keep the wires from chafing against any of the metal but the tubing can be used as a complete conduit.

First; DRILL HOLE the size you need for how many wires are running thru hole and fits the grommet size you'll be using.

#2; install a grommet for that size hole

http://www.customgasketmfg.com/Image...s-Bushings.jpg

#3; Find size and color and cut poly tubing to length from point A to point B

http://www.omega.com/Green/images/TYPE_l.jpg

#4 run wires and install thru grommets and then put an "o-ring" on the back side of the panel where poly tube runs thru to keep it from coming out.

All this stuff should be available to you in NETHERWORLD.... :lol:

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This you have to explain PTC, you mean a normal rubber o-ring?
One that's tight ofcourse, but at both ends?
So inside the door and inside the A-pillar?
It then can slide a bit until the o-rings, that's the purpose of it?
If I understand this right, it's a really simple sollution!

And yeah, we got this overhere, worked for years with that stuff in trucks ;)

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Fast progress on a great build!

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that's what it sounds like to me too. I like the simplicity of it also.