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I get this. But far too often now, the parts aren't 'fresh' when we get them either. I opened up more than one suspension part box when I rebuilt the front end on my '99 over this past x-mas through New Years holiday week to pull out a dusty item from the box. It was all Moog Problem Solver stuff sourced from Summit Racing. I would bet 63-87 truck parts don't sell/move as fast/often as for a later model like my '99.

Heck.... I just purchased a new battery from Advanced Auto on 6/10/21. We went to start the car that night & it would barely crank (6.0:1 4cyl flathead). Put a meter to it & less than 12v. They tested it the next morning & it was bad. That 'new' battery was built May of 2018. The only other one they had in that same size on the shelf was even older (Nov '17). New batterys that are already multi-years of age.

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A now typical problem I've been dealing with for 10+ years now. I'm also suspect of all the aftermarket with just about everything. Back in the day I would just through a front end ( as an example) replace everything with new. Not anymore, I carefully check everything and reuse anything I can that is OEM. The rest, if possible, I look for NOS, and willing to pay the $$. I save stuff like used OEM ball joint boots if they are nice (unthinkable years ago). With a careful inspect I even reuse wheel cylinder, master cylinder rubbers and hard parts as the failure and fitament issues are so common and the old rubber quality is far superior to anything new off the shelf.

Steve weim55 Colorado

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I just avoided this problem this past weekend when going to fetch a battery at NAPA (20% order online and pick up in store) for my Vette. They attempted to hand me a battery born on Aug 2020. They told me "The warranty actually starts on the date of purchase". I said "Let's put a meter on it". He did. I ended up walking out with a battery with a Mar 2021 date, which was at the back of the shelf with 3 older batteries in front of it. Lol.

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I normally would have had it tested but I'm getting worse w/my ability to interact w/people so I just avoid them when needed. The counter people that day were freaking chatty-cathys so avoid was the correct play @ the time for me.

The guy there the next morning was easier to work with but unlucky.... I was irritated @ that point. He did agree w/me that they should have never even had it (or the one that was even older) on the shelf to sell.

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I hear ya. The guy that helped me wanted to talk about what car it was going in, how long I've had it, what color it was........... I had to tell him three times I was running late. Lol.

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Well excuse me for stating the facts. do some homework before buying a product based off its name.. there are better options out there support your local NAPA store instead of buying the cheap stuff at rockauto.com or wherever..

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I bought Moog problem solver parts that seemed to have a pretty good reputation. You must be a hoot at parties. Thanks for the facts.

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You are correct...at one time MOOG was top notch but when the were
Bought out and manufacturing went overseas the quality went away.
I quit installing their parts at the shop years ago for this very reason

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I have definitely learned my lesson and hope this thread will help others before making their decisions. I’m going to contact Moog but I’m about to head to grumpy old mans area for a few days first. Let it get good and hot so I can sweat a bunch while I’m irritated.

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I know you meant no-harm or disrespect in your initial post within the thread. But this info included within your post would given that info more substance.

I try to stay on top of things but I'm not 'in the industry' so I don't deal w/it constantly. I didn't know MOOG was under different ownership although I suspected something changed when that R/K index started appearing on parts I was looking at. I appreciate the info & will do some research. Thanks for contributing :cool:

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That may be true, but NAPA is NOT one of those "better options" though.

My local NAPA does not manufacture their owns parts. They have two lines of parts, with lower line being made in China. The top line, is questionable. NAPA Chassis parts are from Federal-Mogul Motorparts (FMM). Coincidently, so are those MOOG parts. Likely not different. Comparing MOOG with NAPA Chassis Parts almost certainly like comparing American Standard heat pumps with Trane heat pumps...same company, same parts, same assembly plant, same assembly line, different paint and label.

So, why do you think NAPA is superior to Rock Auto?

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Very true...sadly most are made in the same plants and boxed under different labels.