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dave brode 11-18-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 3626929)


Thanks again Dave. Since I already have an electric pump, I will probably stay with one.



[COLOR="blue"]Great Site! That's what I've been looking for, :). I'm going to have a long night tonight......:)

glad to. There are site sponsers there that probably offer pumps. Mallory has two bypass regs that are popular. If the pump isn't too far an overkill, the smaller one works. By-pass side of system must flow enough to cover the pump's output at low fuel need times [idle, cruise etc]

Dave

Hart_Rod 11-18-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3626954)
Aeromotive makes some good stuff.

The x02 BOV can be purchased from VSracing.net

AFR: look at the Innovate LC1 w/digital gauge or the AEM model

If you want to learn more theturboforums is a good rescource also checkout yellowbullet.com/forum

http://www.vsracing.net/catalog/prod...43aaf05a7d8c53

This BOV installed where I have the arrow in the below picture? Do you know how much boost it can handle? I didn't see it listed. What are your thoughts on the location of the air filter?

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Originally Posted by ProStreet71 (Post 3626965)
:dohh:Sorry for the bad info.

No worries. We're all here to learn, :lol:.

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Originally Posted by dave brode (Post 3627062)
glad to. There are site sponserd there that probably offer pumps. Mallory has two bypass regs that are popular. If the pump isn't too far an overkill, the smaller one works. By-pass side of system must flow enough to cover the pump's output at low fuel need times [idle, cruise etc]

Dave

Thanks again for the info. I think I'm going to go with the Aero stuff. I've heard nothing but good about them.

Alex1 11-18-2009 08:00 PM

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You won't be able to hook up the blow off valve on the set up you have now. Normaly they're located on the pipe towards the carb. You would have to change the rubber elbow for a steel or aluminum one.

I don't think you want to cut a hole in the box!

Did you get a wideband 02 yet?

Alex1 11-18-2009 08:12 PM

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Sorry I forgot to mention.

Get a good fuel pump like an Aeromotive a1000 I think it is - Its good quality and will give you all the fuel this combo needs - you will need an adustible fuel pressure regulator and a return to the tank.

Also a like others have mentioned, a cold air set up would help too.

Also you need colder plugs with a blower - I'm not sure if thats what you're using or not

Is that flywheel HP or RWHP your making? I wasn't sure.

Wild83C10 11-18-2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 3627087)

This BOV installed where I have the arrow in the below picture? Do you know how much boost it can handle? I didn't see it listed. What are your thoughts on the location of the air filter?

Yes the BOV would be located in that section of the pipe, but you need the aluminum pipe, not the rubber.

The BOVs aren't rated for certain boost levels it all depends on how much air you are pushing. A 50 mm BOV should be sufficient. I'm not exactly sure how to calculate the size.

Like Alex1 suggested the A1000 is a good pump and will work well with your combo.

It's so easy spending someone else money. Although I just bought a few of these same items.

Hart_Rod 11-18-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex1 (Post 3627361)
Sorry I forgot to mention.

Get a good fuel pump like an Aeromotive a1000 I think it is - Its good quality and will give you all the fuel this combo needs - you will need an adustible fuel pressure regulator and a return to the tank.

Also a like others have mentioned, a cold air set up would help too.

Also you need colder plugs with a blower - I'm not sure if thats what you're using or not

Is that flywheel HP or RWHP your making? I wasn't sure.

I'm using AR3933 plugs. Flywheel HP.

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3627696)
Yes the BOV would be located in that section of the pipe, but you need the aluminum pipe, not the rubber.

The BOVs aren't rated for certain boost levels it all depends on how much air you are pushing. A 50 mm BOV should be sufficient. I'm not exactly sure how to calculate the size.

Like Alex1 suggested the A1000 is a good pump and will work well with your combo.

It's so easy spending someone else money. Although I just bought a few of these same items.

Looks like I'll do the BOV first and then the regulator and pump. Can I cut out a section of the rubber and then add a piece of pipe in between with the BOV?

Hart_Rod 11-19-2009 05:54 PM

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Here's the pump and fuel regulator I think I'm going to buy:

Aero 1000 Fuel Pump Part Number # 027-11101

Areo FPR Part Number # 027-13204

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...rderItemDelete

Thoughts?

r/

Wild83C10 11-20-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 3628866)
Here's the pump and fuel regulator I think I'm going to buy:

Aero 1000 Fuel Pump Part Number # 027-11101

Areo FPR Part Number # 027-13204

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...rderItemDelete

Thoughts?

r/

Those two items will work great, but lets take a step back. You say you have a 10AN line from the tank. What type of line is it? Is your fuel tank setup for a return and a pusher fuel pump? Does it have a sump? I know everyone doesn't run a sump and gravity feed their electric pumps, but it's ecommended and the pump will like it. Also keep in mind that you need a pre filter (100 micron) and a post filter (10 micron). Aeromotive sells a sump kit with built in filter and a1000 pump.

Alex1 11-20-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3629916)
Those two items will work great, but lets take a step back. You say you have a 10AN line from the tank. What type of line is it? Is your fuel tank setup for a return and a pusher fuel pump? Does it have a sump? I know everyone doesn't run a sump and gravity feed their electric pumps, but it's ecommended and the pump will like it. Also keep in mind that you need a pre filter (100 micron) and a post filter (10 micron). Aeromotive sells a sump kit with built in filter and a1000 pump.


:metal: Square advice.

Did you get a wideband yet?

Hart_Rod 12-01-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3629916)
Those two items will work great, but lets take a step back. You say you have a 10AN line from the tank. What type of line is it? Is your fuel tank setup for a return and a pusher fuel pump? Does it have a sump? I know everyone doesn't run a sump and gravity feed their electric pumps, but it's ecommended and the pump will like it. Also keep in mind that you need a pre filter (100 micron) and a post filter (10 micron). Aeromotive sells a sump kit with built in filter and a1000 pump.

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Originally Posted by Alex1 (Post 3630009)
:metal: Square advice.

Did you get a wideband yet?

Thanks for the advice guys. I got the BOV today. It looks like a quality part. Hopefully I can get it installed by tomorrow. I'll get the wideband after I get the BOV, FPR and fuel pump installed. I'll post updates soon...

Hart_Rod 01-17-2010 11:38 PM

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I'll have an update on the blow-off valve by the end of the week. In the mean time, here's a video of some burn-outs, :metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIkAs...ayer_embedded#

bigsnookmaster 01-18-2010 09:59 AM

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Real sweet ride. I would keep the 3:73 gear if your going to street drive it. I've always ran the same and it gives the best of both worlds, And with that much power, I don't think you need any more. My .02 Where is Pace, Fl?

djracer 01-18-2010 12:38 PM

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Just outside of pensacola.

Hart_Rod 01-29-2010 12:26 AM

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I finally got my BOV installed. I still have to route a good vaccuum source to it and then I can go try it out. Is there anything I should double check before putting it to the test?

Wild83C10 01-30-2010 11:27 AM

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Looking good. How you doing with the other upgrades?

Hart_Rod 01-30-2010 01:54 PM

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Looking good. How you doing with the other upgrades?

I still need to finish the fuel system, but the Suburban has been occupying most of my time. Can you describe the normal operation of the blow off valve. As it stands, as soon as I manually move the throttle it starts opening up and releasing air from the supercharger. When does this stop?

ripdog28 01-30-2010 01:57 PM

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Cant you adjust the valve? Set it for the PSI you want?

Hart_Rod 01-30-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ripdog28 (Post 3768371)
Cant you adjust the valve? Set it for the PSI you want?

Good question. The instructions said it was preset at the factory and not to adjust it. Makes you wonder why they put an adjustment screw on it....

drag_72 01-31-2010 05:48 PM

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i watched the video.... man lay in to the throttle!!! you aint gonna hurt that thing! blow them tires off man!

Wild83C10 01-31-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 3768361)
I still need to finish the fuel system, but the Suburban has been occupying most of my time. Can you describe the normal operation of the blow off valve. As it stands, as soon as I manually move the throttle it starts opening up and releasing air from the supercharger. When does this stop?

Suburban looks nice. I will have to check out the build thread.

You need to build boost or pressure in the intake in order for the valve to stay closed. The hose that comes from the intake to the BOV senses pressure or vacuum. Under boost it will close the valve and keep it closed. If there is vacuum in the intake it will open the valve. It appears that the BOV is doing what it is supposed to do. You don't want pressure when you are manually blipping the throttle.
Before you make any adjustments drive the truck and see if how it acts.

Hart_Rod 01-31-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by drag_72 (Post 3770940)
i watched the video.... man lay in to the throttle!!! you aint gonna hurt that thing! blow them tires off man!

I know, I know....I'm still babying it. I still need to update the fuel pump and pressure regulator before I get to crazy with it....:).

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Originally Posted by Wild83C10 (Post 3771456)
Suburban looks nice. I will have to check out the build thread.

You need to build boost or pressure in the intake in order for the valve to stay closed. The hose that comes from the intake to the BOV senses pressure or vacuum. Under boost it will close the valve and keep it closed. If there is vacuum in the intake it will open the valve. It appears that the BOV is doing what it is supposed to do. You don't want pressure when you are manually blipping the throttle.
Before you make any adjustments drive the truck and see if how it acts.

Roger that. It's been nasty weather her for the last couple of weeks so I really haven't gotten to drive it. Tomorrow is supposed to be nice, I'll try to take it out then. Also, what are your thoughts on a PCV setup?

Jim_PA 01-31-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drag_72 (Post 3770940)
i watched the video.... man lay in to the throttle!!! you aint gonna hurt that thing! blow them tires off man!

X2 - and you were using brakes? WTH? ? ? ? :)

Hart_Rod 01-31-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 3771521)
X2 - and you were using brakes? WTH? ? ? ? :)

I'm scared........:lol:.

drag_72 02-01-2010 12:52 AM

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I'm scared........:lol:.

SCARED!!!??? nooooo you do not use those words in this thread lol you gotta be balls out man! lol

Hart_Rod 02-14-2010 09:25 PM

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Before I purchase a wideband setup, I need to upgrade the fuel system from the Holley black pump/Holley non bypass, non boost referenced FPR (anyone need to buy a pump and FPR, :D) to some Aeromotive stuff. Here's what I'm planning for the fuel system:

A11101 - Fuel pump
A13301 - Boost reference fuel pressure regulator with return
A12301 - 10 micron fuel filter
A12304 - 100 micron fuel filter

The only thing I'm not sure of is the fuel pressure regulator. There seems to be a lot of choices. The 13301 is adjustable from 3-20psi and has a spring that can be changed to make it adjustable from 20 to 65psi if I ever switch to fuel injection. Thoughts?

R/


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