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bigmac73 11-27-2013 07:41 AM

Re: $2K for this engine? *time sensitive*
 
well if you are going to get a crate engine, get a 383 stroker, i kick my self in the ass for not spending an extra 600 bones and getting a 420HP 383, instead of the 355. but i am thinking about converting mine and adding a trick flow top end kit to it

cdowns 11-27-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GASoline71 (Post 6389500)
Funny thing is... a 350 can be built for a tad under 2 grand and make 1hp per cubic inch or more.

Gary

funny thing is the engine section here is chuck full of posts about those type of engines being dead in 500 miles or less

Jahloha 11-27-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmac73 (Post 6390824)
well if you are going to get a crate engine, get a 383 stroker, i kick my self in the ass for not spending an extra 600 bones and getting a 420HP 383, instead of the 355. but i am thinking about converting mine and adding a trick flow top end kit to it

I am so on the fence with the same dilemma...this is going to be a DD, but man, I read about and see 383s and think, "man I would like to feel that torque power off the line every once in awhile".

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Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 6390858)
funny thing is the engine section here is chuck full of posts about those type of engines being dead in 500 miles or less

cdowns...I appreciate your insight. I have read your posts about not being pro-rebuilds. What crate engines have you had experience with or prefer?

bbcmudtruck 11-27-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 6390858)
funny thing is the engine section here is chuck full of posts about those type of engines being dead in 500 miles or less

Thats completely the builders fault, not the engines! Good bearings, good machine work and knowing your tolerances and how to set them is critical. However a stout $2000 350 rebuild is completely doable, if YOUR capable.

cdowns 11-27-2013 12:54 PM

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cdowns...I appreciate your insight. I have read your posts about not being pro-rebuilds. What crate engines have you had experience with or prefer?[/QUOTE]

i've used a few of the GMPP crate engines 260 and 290 mostly// one time iwhen i was in a real time bind i got a turnkey 300hp setup from the engine factory// that was really nice just hooked up water gas and electric and it was great for a 2000 mile test drive the next day

Jahloha 11-27-2013 12:56 PM

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I am an engine novice, if I do go crate engine, would you recommend a turn key? I can bolt things on and run belts, but never broken an new engine in.

sublime1996525 11-27-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jahloha (Post 6391177)
I am an engine novice, if I do go crate engine, would you recommend a turn key? I can bolt things on and run belts, but never broken an new engine in.

Engine break in is easy. This big thing is the initial fire to break in the cam. Just google cam break in and you'll see what to do. Pretty simple just make sure everything is ready and you have a way to gauge RPM's.

Jahloha 11-27-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sublime1996525 (Post 6391215)
Engine break in is easy. This big thing is the initial fire to break in the cam. Just google cam break in and you'll see what to do. Pretty simple just make sure everything is ready and you have a way to gauge RPM's.

Thats good to know because I called Gus Paulos to see what theyd charge to install a Chevy crate engine (that way I can keep the warranty valid), and they said theyd charge $1850. Does that seem outrageous?

I have originally thought having that warranty would be nice, but adding an additional 2gs to the overall costs is killer.

sublime1996525 11-27-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jahloha (Post 6391228)
Thats good to know because I called Gus Paulos to see what theyd charge to install a Chevy crate engine (that way I can keep the warranty valid), and they said theyd charge $1850. Does that seem outrageous?

I have originally thought having that warranty would be nice, but adding an additional 2gs to the overall costs is killer.

That sounds about right for a dealer. I don't think it has to be a Chevy dealer that does the install though for the warranty. Maybe you could clarify that and find it cheaper or see if they will let you do the install yourself and bring it to a dealer for inspection?

Jahloha 11-27-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sublime1996525 (Post 6391236)
That sounds about right for a dealer. I don't think it has to be a Chevy dealer that does the install though for the warranty. Maybe you could clarify that and find it cheaper or see if they will let you do the install yourself and bring it to a dealer for inspection?

Great idea. I forgot that I think I read that on our forum somewhere, about being able to possibly install and take to dealer for inspection. That would put their crate engines back onto my radar.

GASoline71 11-27-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdowns (Post 6390858)
funny thing is the engine section here is chuck full of posts about those type of engines being dead in 500 miles or less

LMAO! :lol:

Just cuz it's a "crate engine with a warranty" makes no guarantee that it will survive any longer.

Gary

CastIron 11-27-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GASoline71 (Post 6391256)
LMAO! :lol:

Just cuz it's a "crate engine with a warranty" makes no guarantee that it will survive any longer.

Gary

It's not a guarantee, but buying a crate engine certainly improves the odds of getting 100k+ miles without needing a rebuild.
I've installed dozens of new and remanufactured engines from GM. (I worked at a GM dealer for over 17 years) I've never had one come back for anything more serious than an oil leak.

Jahloha 11-28-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CastIron (Post 6392070)
It's not a guarantee, but buying a crate engine certainly improves the odds of getting 100k+ miles without needing a rebuild.
I've installed dozens of new and remanufactured engines from GM. (I worked at a GM dealer for over 17 years) I've never had one come back for anything more serious than an oil leak.

Have a personal preference for any crate motors from GM?

Jahloha 12-03-2013 01:35 PM

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Bringing this one back up with an update, looks like I might be able to pick this engine up for 800-1000 bucks. It hasnt' been fired up for 2-3 years. If you were in my seat, what would you do?

Bigdav160 12-03-2013 01:56 PM

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I'd buy it just to have it.

But I'm a hoarder :exit:

Jahloha 12-03-2013 02:00 PM

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But I figure, for 800-1000, thats the minimum I am at, to machine my current block and crappy 462624 heads, which we all know are crack prone.

I have never started an engine that has been sitting for a couple years, there has got to be some protocols prior to ignition...

litew8 12-03-2013 02:01 PM

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Get the owner to fire it up on site. Yeah, the gas is probably bad in the tank.

Jahloha 12-03-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by litew8 (Post 6399704)
Get the owner to fire it up on site. Yeah, the gas is probably bad in the tank.

Anything to be nervous about, if the engine hasnt been fired for a couple years (i.e. oil, gas, etc)?

litew8 12-03-2013 02:04 PM

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IDK, I'd take the valve covers off and take a peak. If they say it ran before, should fire (starter fluid). Not sure what the condition the gasoline would be in tank though. Don't want to run it if there's junk build up from sitting. Besides that, you personally have nothing to lose by having the owner fire it up before you buy - if it isn't what they say, you'll notice. You've got to wonder why someone would be willing to let it go for so cheap. Either there's something the matter (not obvious), or they are just selling it for the quick cash. Either way I'd be cautious. If it isn't all setup ready to run - why not? You could probably substitute the gas tank by running the fuel pump to a gas can temporarily. If it's all connected ready to fire, but the owner refuses to do it... reconsider.

67ChevyRedneck 12-03-2013 02:47 PM

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If he's gone from 2K to 800 that means no one else is interested and he's trying to unload it. I would still pass on it. Imagine all the time and effort to install it (and cost if you're paying someone) only to have it blow up on you after 50 or 500 miles and have to do it all over again.


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