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I also phoned and email'd Bill's Truck Shop in Ontario, they had the floor in stock but didn't reply to my email for a total, even though they were expecting it (sent the email about an hour after talking on the phone). Maybe it never got delivered, who knows. I wanted a few things (like the Precision weather strip) that GMC Paul's offered, and price-wise they were very good too so I just bought it all from them. Decent communication so far, my only gripes are they charged me $450 USD for shipping..hoping they will refund some of that when the actual shipping costs are figured out. It's truck freight but all the sheetmetal is going on one shipment so I would think it would be cheaper than that. They also email'd me and said their last 69-90 firewall had damage, I opted to put the order on hold until a good one comes in. That should be the 20th. |
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Drilled out the back wall of the cab
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...708_204328.jpg Removed the rear bolts, some fiddling with the car corners and it's free http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...708_205704.jpg My dad came over this afternoon and helped me lift it off, then back on http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_141749.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_141758.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_141806.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_142048.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_143918.jpg |
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I was concerned with this area before separating the cab
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_120158.jpg My plan was to cut the A pillar in half and use the front half from the parts cab http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_120143.jpg But it's worse than I thought inside. The inner reinforcement has rusted away from the A pillar on both sides. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_143929.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_143949.jpg I didn't take a good shot from further back on the parts cab, but this is how it's supposed to look. This is the inside of the driver's A pillar at the base of the windshield. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_120134.jpg Cleaned up the garage and pushed it back in to mull over my options. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...709_144734.jpg I'd need to have it blasted to know for sure, but I suspect the metal in the A pillar is too thin to be saved. My biggest issue is keeping it all square. If I cut the A pillars off I don't have a good way of properly placing their replacements. Really wishing now I had left the parts cab alone and simply cut the A pillars halfway down the windshield , then grafted the front end onto my cab. Which brings me to my next though. Currently, I'm thinking the best plan of action is to: -blast/wire wheel/treat all the bits of the parts cab I removed removing all rust that wasn't reached when it was blasted all assembled -re-install the panels back onto the parts cab. I should be able to line up everything pretty easily just by matching the spot welds drill holes. -cut back the floor of the parts cab where it meets the firewall to allow room for... -tack new firewall onto parts cab along the cowl and A pillars -cut the A pillars of the parts cab about halfway down the windshield, and cut the base of the A pillars away from the floor and rockers -after lots of measuring, tack the assembled front half of the cab on to the remains of my "good" cab -test fit windshield, hang and test fit doors to confirm measurements -weld A pillars together in solid with some sort of internal fish plating or sleeve -fit new floor pan to the cab at the back, slice and dice as needed to join firewall to floor. Opinions? Hoping someone has a better plan (other than buy another cab...) I am so over my head it's not even funny. :thud: |
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You can keep your eye on the parts board for someone dissecting a cab and find the proper A pillar patch panels you need? I know i'm not much help.
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Hey buddy, good work on the tear down. Welcome to a truck from the south. I thought I had a lot to repair/replace. wish I had known in advance I had a few original pcs you could have used. Anyway, good luck and keep up the good.....Casey
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Wow that's a lot of cab repair,in fact that's the most I've ever seen, good to see a fellow winnipeg person on here,there's a couple on here now finally.
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Thanks for the words, all!
I think I'm going to continue with fixing this cab. It's a matter of $$ vs time vs space for me. Using the A pillars from my parts cab will cost me zero dollars, zero space, but a bunch more time measuring and fitting. Before I was going to do all the cab repairs on the dolly, with replacing the A pillars I think a couple of rounds with the cab on the chassis hanging doors and the front clip will be the best way to go to ensure proper fitment. Here are the two possibilities locally if I were to start on another cab: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...ationFlag=true http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/...ationFlag=true I'd need to pay someone to haul them home for both, and I don't have the space at home unless I want to work on grass. Here's some better shots of the A pillars on the parts cab. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...710_144234.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...710_144227.jpg I haven't done any more work on the truck really, been looking for a little utility trailer to buy so I can cart the cab(s) around to get blasted. Also rolled the chassis around, got the tarps out from under it and cut the grass. My girlfriends father donated a bunch of 2x2 patio stones and I bought a few more, going to lay down some landscaping cloth and hopefully make a little parking pad for the chassis/bed/front end so it's not over grass. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...714_194702.jpg |
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A very thorough tear down. I don't think the rust has got any place left to hide.
Look forward to seeing you piece this one back together. Great job so far and good luck with the rest. |
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Let me tell you im following this, you Sir are definitely fearless! Cant wait to see this done!
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Not too much progress. Made a pad to park the truck on so it's off the grass, just paving stones over landscaping fabric. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...717_143022.jpg Also bought a small trailer to cart cabs and engines and stuff around. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...717_164020.jpg I've also bought a little sandblaster that supposedly only uses 2 cfm at 50psi so I should be able to run it off a tiny little compressor my dad has. Just for spot clean up. And my sheetmetal from GMC Paul's has shipped, I may be picking it up next weekend. |
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Not too much going on. Life is busy and it seems like every time I've got a spare couple hours it rains.
Purchased a new cab http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...727_190241.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_194417.jpg Shuffled it onto the dolly. Juuuust barely enough room for two. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_203958.jpg The cab needs floor work, cab corners, rockers, and floor extensions but it otherwise in very nice shape. Someone has already worked on the passenger side. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_203353.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_203401.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_203410.jpg Pretty impressive option list http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...729_204419.jpg There's some title issues with this cab however so I'm not going to work much on it until I know definitively what's going on with that. Drove down to the border to pick up my parts. My timing was terrible with border crossing on a long weekend, took about 5 hours round trip. Part of that was repacking the shipment as it was originally packaged like this http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...730_145900.jpg Fits a lot better like this http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...730_151437.jpg All the goodies layed out. Not pictured is the full floor as it was too heavy to wrestle around by myself. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...730_165823.jpg |
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i havent commented before but have seen this since the beginning. Youre making good work on it. Keep going and there wont be any rust left
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Brought my cab to be sandblasted
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...809_122628.jpg Turned out great! Roof is mint, I was very relieved http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...811_122600.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...811_122625.jpg Original cab corners only have a few pinholes http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...811_122721.jpg And powder coated with zinc primer. I also got 6 other pieces done (cowl and side wings), and they cut me a great deal. Just under $300 for everything. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_122326.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_123858.jpg Some holes near the vin plates and by the door http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_123939.jpg Drip rail on drivers side http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_124014.jpg Inside the cab http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_124025.jpg And a small hole on the passenger side door jamb near the A pillar http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_124113.jpg Inside the cab corners http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_124412.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...816_124430.jpg |
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Went to the junkyard and found this truck hanging out front. Not sure what year but it's got 5 lugs, leaf springs, and a homemade one piece flip front end with a 69-72 hood but a 67-68 grille. Weird. Hopefully I can grab a few parts off it one day.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_125432.jpg Today I started work on the passenger side A pillar http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_152942.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_153010.jpg Cut the front half off the parts cab. I later regretted cutting here, but this is my first try at fixing rust... http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_155611.jpg Same thing on my cab http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_164716.jpg Together http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_165654.jpg Started with this http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_172039.jpg Ended up here http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_185642.jpg |
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Really regretting cutting across the 4 curved body lines. Proving almost impossible to line up. Not sure if it's my trimming or if the two panels don't have the exact same lines (from different stampings or whatever).
I can get the bottom three to line up like this http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_181638.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_182454.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_182503.jpg But the top line/lip won't line up if I align the others. If I line up the top, it sucks the panel in and here's what I get http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_182644.jpg Not sure what I should do next. Might cut off the top lip and use the original chunk up there. Just realized I didn't take a picture of the backside, but that's got a section of panel welded in too that has to line up. |
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Per that last picture is it possible that ya just need to trim the window opening flange a little more so it would allow the lighter piece to curl inward a little more?
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Possibly...I'm at the point where I don't want to trim too much more as I'm afraid of going too far. Wish I had someone locally who could take a look and give me their opinion of what's going on, whether it's the panels that are not quite the same or my cut isn't located properly.
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You almost need an uncut cab and pull a curvature pattern off of it.
maybe just go ahead and tack it in place on the outer surface and keep fitting the other parts until you see what you got? i would think that window flange should be able to be "adjusted" a bit before final welding. |
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That's a good suggestion swap rat, I did just that! Windsheild is still in the other cab so I couldn't do much other than confirm I'm pretty close.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_150012.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_150759.jpg I decided having the inner section welded together was preventing me from pushing things to where I wanted. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_150906.jpg You can see how the original and the replacement are different at the top. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_152623.jpg So I drilled it out http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_155437.jpg And that was the ticket, it all fits much better now http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_160536.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...821_173405.jpg Moving on to the drivers side, I made a cut near the top of the windsheild http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...825_202229.jpg And chopped it off http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_181008.jpg |
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Did the same to the parts cab and after some trimming here's the result
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_184655.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_184344.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_184301.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_184146.jpg Much easier so far than what I did for the passenger side. i went with doing the full pillar because of the damage found here http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...820_190824.jpg I haven't started welding it in yet as I've been sandblasting the inner sections of all the panels and it's slow going. My blaster doesn't have much power and there are difficult angles to reach. |
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Nice work!
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So the panels I took apart had surface rust inside. I've gone this far, might as well take care of it while I can.
Before: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...826_185711.jpg After lots of sandblasting with my dad's tiny compressor bought to run an air nailer. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...831_195803.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...831_195840.jpg It's not powerfull enough to get the deepest pitting and around the corners where I can't get a good angle, but it'll have to do. Coated everything in zinc weld though primer http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_183831.jpg Made the first tack last night http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_193215.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_200238.jpg I started from the top and worked my way down. The replacement panel really didn't want to sit flat down here and was pretty twisted. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_200256.jpg I'm having trouble getting nice welds. Here's my initial settings that I used all of yesterday http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_201349.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...901_201359.jpg |
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I messed around with the settings today and tried going hotter (setting "C") with just a touch more wire speed but ended up going back. I can't get nice flat welds, it seems to mostly sit on top. Sometimes the wire doesn't even tranfer and makes a little ball at the end of the wire.
I don't remember what setting I had for these, but you can sort of see. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_190938.jpg Part of the reason is my gaps are all uneven. I tried doing a little welding on the back side too and that doesn't work so well as I can't get the flap wheel in there to clean the old paint and powercoat. It's really tempting to run short beads, I did a couple and they ended up decent. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_194151.jpg Where I stopped tonight. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_194935.jpg Not happy with the lower part. It's flat here http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_195032.jpg Bowed inwards the worst at the lower door hinge area http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_195044.jpg And flat again near the top http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...902_195155.jpg It was bowed in at the bottom a bit when I first tacked it in and got worse as I added heat. Hoping when I cut the bottom of the A-pillar off to put in the patch panel I can hammer and bend it back straight a little since it'll be a little weaker without the lower bit. Good thing this is the passenger side and I won't see it every time I get into the truck. |
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