Re: LS1 swap. What oil pan did you use?
 

Everyone take a chill pill, I know you weren't consciously trying to start a pissing match but it doesn't take much for it to read that way. ;)

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I apologize, and remove the flag.

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Just don't be calling B.S. and we will get along fine;) So I figured I saved a good $60 + by buying one used and money saved is fine with me. Your post came across as being a smart a$$ so I reacted in a way I thought was equal to your post. You may be a member of ls1.tech, or pro touring or some of the other sites where being a smart a$$ is cool but people over here don't care for it much and when people over here start acting like them I will stay clear of this site also. FYI most gm dealerships will match the gmpartsdirect.com site so you can save the shipping and get it local. I went back and looked and found the price I wrote down when I was needing a pan from gm and it was $197 then for just the pan so they have come down in price. No harm no foul 71farmtruck

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I have not tried to get a parts direct price from a local dealer, I have experienced from local dealer parts men that they are a bit averse to the online discount dealer parts prices. One parts guy at a Houston dealership went as far as to not give me a part number so I could shop around, he said that he simply would not give it out. That really ticked me off, he acted like a part number was proprietary information or something.

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Most of the dealerships around here will match the price as bad as they hate to. I guess all of them are different though.

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... if you like getting your ass pounded. They're a nightmare to deal with. You can't talk to a human, you pay $100 less than the dealership for parts, but 10x the shipping (shipping on that pan is probably $65). In the long run, you're barely breaking even, and sometimes paying more by using GMPD.

To boot, when I bought my truck pan, dipstick, pickup from them, they sent it in an oversize box with barely any padding, it rattled around so much it had a hole the size of a baseball in it, some of the bolts were missing, the pan was damaged.

It was clearly their fault, but it took almost 3 days to get in touch with someone there just to get a claim filed and get new parts shipped out AND THEY BLAMED THE DELIVERY PERSON. It was their shoddy packaging. I told FedEx straight up, it was the deliverer's grossly inappropriate package that caused the problem.

Scary part? They probably re-sold the pan to someone else.

I dunno about you, but If I have a choice between buying online and paying 20% less for parts, but 150% more for shipping, or buying locally, guess what I'm going to do?

AVOID GMPD!!!

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Sounds like you had a bad experience to say the least. Sixty five dollars for shipping is a gouge, i would tell them to stick it. I have never bought a bulky item like that from them, but all my experiences with them have been good. I think the last thing I got from them was a window motor for my camaro, which was $100, brand new GM, not that rebuilt crap, and it was half what the local dealer charged, and shipping was $15. It really depends on the item you are buying when it comes to your percentage off list price with parts direct. I do more business with Scoggin Dickey than I do parts direct, sometimes they are cheaper, sometimes not. I will say they are top notch in service though, they truck freighted a LS6 motor to the shop door in two days. Another good thing is to have a good relationship with a salvage yard in your area. I can get just about anything I need from my bone yard, he's got pallets of LS engines and parts, hell, he's got five 67-72 trucks out there as well that arent even well picked.

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I buy all of my stuff with gmotors.com, Brasington Cadillac down in Gainesville, FL. Bill and the guys are about 5% more on cart price, but shipping is actually honest - they charge you realistic rates with realistic handling, and combine shipping on orders.

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I'll mention it to him. I think he said the price was going to be around $560 + shipping. I think that includes, gaskets, collectors and header bolts. I can't say much about the price, but I will say the quality is incredible.

R/

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Ceramic coated for $560?!

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I think that is the price after the member discount, but you should probably PM him for verification.

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Hey Rob, did you figure out what motor mount you plan to use with the Camaro oil pan? Would you mind measuring the gap from your crossmember straight back to the part of the oil pan hanging behind the crossmember?

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I'm using ECE motor mounts. I think there's about 3-4 inches from the crossmember to the truck pan. I think there will be plenty of room for the camaro pan. I'm recovering for surgery, so give me a couple of days to get some measurements.

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No hurry, hope everything went well with your surgery.

Searching through various threads on here and ls1tech.com, the concensus seems to be that the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro oil pan.

I knew you were using the ECE mounts and you were thinking about switching to the camaro oil pan, but I wasn't sure if you had researched it further. Judging by the image on post #21 of this thread, if there isn't more than 3 inches of gap between the truck oil pan and the crossmember, then the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro pan.

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I got all the parts today and I'm going to do the Camaro pan swap, hopefully this will work...........

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Well I verified that the Camaro oil pan definitely will not work with the ECE mounts. It's about 1/2" to long back to front. I could easily modify the crossmember, but I think the Cadillac CTSV pan will work if my measurements are correct....back to the drawing board....

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can you take pics of what you're talking about....??

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I'll get some up later this evening.

R

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Here's the pictures. It's very close, but just not quite enough room.

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I think this pan will work. Here's a comparison to the Camaro pan. Any thoughts out there.....??????

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Heres some, I think the pics will work even if your not a member.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...f-them-324366/

What bout the H3 pan? How far does the regular truck pan hang down too much?

Re: LS1 swap. What oil pan did you use?
 

Truck pan is 8 1/4" deep, H3 Pan is 7 1/2" deep.

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I'm planning on using the Cadillac pan when I do my swap for that very reason. The truck pan hangs too low, IMO. I have an 04 GTO that I'm pulling the LS1 out of, but it's a front sump setup that definitely will not work

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What mounts are you going to use?

R

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thanks rob.....i do beleive the cadi pan will work for ya....also i think if you went with the POL mounts the camaro pan would work too....but again im not 100% positive on that...

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I was planning to use ECE's or S&P's. S&P sells the mounts that move the engine back an extra inch if needed

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Let me know if you find a decent price on the Cadillac parts. I was going to swap a guy my GTO pan for his Cadillac pan, but I think I want to hang on to the GTO pan for the time being. I have a list of part numbers for all the parts (pan, pickup tube, dipstick tube, etc) if you need it

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I'm in to deep with the ECE stuff to back up now, :D. Hopefully the Caddy pan will work...........

I got the numbers off of LS1 tech. I think you can use the truck windage tray. I will have to use the Lokar dipstick with the Doug Thorley headers. I'll let you know.

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OK, we have a winner, :). The Cadillac CTSv pan looks like it was made to go with the ECE motor mounts. It sits about 3/4" above the crossmember and has plenty of room in the front for the drag link to clear. All you need is the pan and the oil pickup tube. The windage tray from the truck works. If you got any question let me go. Another cool thing I like about it is the fact that the oil drain plug is in the rear and not on the side. Here's a few pictures.......

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Where did you buy the pan?

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I got it at the dealership. It's normally around $340, I got it for about 270. If you're not running the ECE mounts, the Fbody pan will work and gives you a little more clearance. If you're interested in the extra Fbody pan, windage tray and oil pick up tube, I'll ship it to you for $260. I've seen used ones on Ebay going for over $200. LMK.

R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...mZ380045124772

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Thanks, but I'll pass. You are asking $2 less than buying the stuff new from gmpartsdirect.com including shipping :rolleyes:

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This stuff is new! I bought it Monday. I guess I got taken but, I paid $290 for everything at the dealership and that's with a business discount, (I'll be glad to show you the receipt, ;)). Oh well, maybe I'll throw it on ebay or make me an offer.

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Mahanian,

Honestly, the rolled eyes weren't necessary. Like I said I paid $290 for everything and I'm sure it's going to cost at least $40 to ship. So even if I sold it for $260, I'm still out $70, about 4 hrs work, and a couple trips to the parts store. Plus, I saved you a lot of time trying to figure this out yourself. Sorry for the rant, but I don't appreciate you implying I'm trying to rip some one off. Have a good night.

Rob

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Sorry Rob, I didn't mean that as a personal attack. I used the "roll eyes" emoticon guy as a "hmmm" or "deep in thought" cause that's what it always looked like to me. I've never used that little guy before and that is what I always thought it was.

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No worries, man. It's late, I'm tired and in the process of moving and I'm getting very little sleep. I didn't mean to snap at you. If you want the pan, shoot me an offer. I'm just trying to recoup some of my $$$ in this whole oil pan "adventure". Take care and talk to you later.

R

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Any idea what mounts the camaro pan will work with? I'm going to pull the drivetrain out of the GTO this weekend.

Good luck with the move!

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All the mount that move the motor back, ie the ones that use the plates....Street and peformanc, CPP, and I'm sure others. Thanks.

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I know this is an old thread, but I think my question is relevant to the discussion.

What's this piece indicated by the arrows in the attached pic, and does it need to be swapped if changing from an F-body pan to a CTS-V pan, or does it stay with the pan it came with? The CTS-V pan is on the left, indicated by the red arrow. Obviously the F-body pan has the green arrow.

Thanks,
Brent

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That is the oil cooler bypass, You want the camaro one with the boss on it so you can drill and tap it for your oil pressure gauge. See attachment