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gringoloco 01-10-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5797608)
...I probably have around $50 in the dash I put together for my beater truck and that's including the clock and voltmeter mods too...

What voltmeter did you use? Details on the swap?

1970 C10 MJW 01-10-2013 10:01 AM

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gringo he has build threads for all of his stuff in his signature.. he does very nice work!

67c10rustbuket 01-12-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5807094)
It's printed on a vinyl sticker that's put directly over the S-10 face.If you're serious about wanting to try it, I can have some more made. You would have to find a graphics place around you to have the graphic part done, then take it to a print shop to have it printed. Those two steps ran me about $150.

I would be in for a few vinyl templates for the speedo, or the design so I can have some cut myself. I have been brainstorming about adapting a late model speedo into the old gauge and stumbled onto this. Excellent job!, I will have to go back over and read up on your stuff on the LS forums.

ls1nova71 01-12-2013 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1970 C10 MJW (Post 5808100)
i am very interested in that. I you would really make another one how much would you want for it? and do you still have any ribbed cruise control switches?

Just to make sure we're on the same page, I can have the vinyl faces made, I can't make a whole speedo. As for the cruise levers, I'll have some more done shortly.

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Originally Posted by HarleyT (Post 5808128)
LS1nova,
would it be possible to have say 10 speedos cut, then resell them to make up some of you investment? I would buy one of the speedo overlays, and I am sure others would.

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Originally Posted by 67c10rustbuket (Post 5812001)
I would be in for a few vinyl templates for the speedo, or the design so I can have some cut myself. I have been brainstorming about adapting a late model speedo into the old gauge and stumbled onto this. Excellent job!, I will have to go back over and read up on your stuff on the LS forums.

I can have some made, but I would need to know how many people want them before I do.

ls1nova71 01-12-2013 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 5808131)
What voltmeter did you use? Details on the swap?

The voltmeter is a pretty simple swap. It uses a gauge from a square body truck, roughly '78 to 87. You have to drill one hole in the tin mounting plate. Then you take the needle off, it pulls straight off. grind off the 2 rivits that hold the face on, and swap it with the ammeter face from the 67-72. Then put the 67-72 needle on it. I bought a decal for the face with the voltmeter numbers on it, off this site a year or so ago. I had the printer guy who does the speedo faces make me some more. Then you wire the gauge with an ignition wire on one terminal and it grounds through the metal backing plate it's bolted to. You can see how it's wired in the pic above of the back of my speedo cluster.

gumbys10 01-12-2013 10:34 AM

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I would definetlty take the overlays,2 sets of them. I already have 2 clusters from s10 projects I have that I swapped them out to get a tach cluster lol. Is there 2 overlays, one for the design on the gauge, and one for the lense? I am unclear on that.

1970 C10 MJW 01-12-2013 03:00 PM

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i mean i am wanting the vinyl print how much would you charge? i live in the 46561 area code, I will make one myself lol. I want to make one so please let me know:)

HarleyT 01-12-2013 09:25 PM

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Yes just the vinyl faces. I already picked up a couple dashes.
Thanks
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ls1nova71 01-16-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 67c10rustbuket (Post 5812001)
I would be in for a few vinyl templates for the speedo, or the design so I can have some cut myself. I have been brainstorming about adapting a late model speedo into the old gauge and stumbled onto this. Excellent job!, I will have to go back over and read up on your stuff on the LS forums.

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Originally Posted by gumbys10 (Post 5812282)
I would definetlty take the overlays,2 sets of them. I already have 2 clusters from s10 projects I have that I swapped them out to get a tach cluster lol. Is there 2 overlays, one for the design on the gauge, and one for the lense? I am unclear on that.

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Originally Posted by 1970 C10 MJW (Post 5812711)
i mean i am wanting the vinyl print how much would you charge? i live in the 46561 area code, I will make one myself lol. I want to make one so please let me know:)

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Originally Posted by HarleyT (Post 5813428)
Yes just the vinyl faces. I already picked up a couple dashes.
Thanks
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Ok guys, here's what I can do. I can have some more made, but I'm going to need to know how many before I do so. Also, my printer is usually really busy (he does graphics on police cars) and these kind of things don't get top priority to keep the prices in check. It would probably be a week or so before they would be done. That said, I'll sell the printed face, the stencile to paint the numbers on the inside of the lens, and a paper template of the speedo mounting for $25 shipped. You'll get what's in the first picture, but the speedo mounting template will be drawn on a piece of paper, you'll need to cut it out and trace it onto a piece of sheet metal and cut it out, not super hard, but does require some tools. I cut this one out with a cut off wheel and a die grinder. The second pic is for reference only, and is what the speedo looks like mounted to the metal piece.

cjohnson6772 01-16-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5823051)
Ok guys, here's what I can do. I can have some more made, but I'm going to need to know how many before I do so. Also, my printer is usually really busy (he does graphics on police cars) and these kind of things don't get top priority to keep the prices in check. It would probably be a week or so before they would be done. That said, I'll sell the printed face, the stencile to paint the numbers on the inside of the lens, and a paper template of the speedo mounting for $25 shipped. You'll get what's in the first picture, but the speedo mounting template will be drawn on a piece of paper, you'll need to cut it out and trace it onto a piece of sheet metal and cut it out, not super hard, but does require some tools. I cut this one out with a cut off wheel and a die grinder. The second pic is for reference only, and is what the speedo looks like mounted to the metal piece.

So more or less I would need this kit and:

To make the sheetmetal mounting plate
Speedometer itself
Individually wire the gauges
Apply the gauge face
Paint the lens

Am I missing anything?
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ls1nova71 01-17-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cjohnson6772 (Post 5823074)
So more or less I would need this kit and:

To make the sheetmetal mounting plate
Speedometer itself
Individually wire the gauges
Apply the gauge face
Paint the lens

Am I missing anything?
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That's the long and short of it, yes. You will also need a certain amount of patience! This is do-able, but isn't just a couple hour job. It takes some fiddeling with it to get everything just right.

67c10rustbuket 01-17-2013 07:28 AM

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I am good for 2 please, No rush. :smoke:

chuckmc8 01-17-2013 11:51 AM

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I'm in for one of the $25 deals

lytemup454 01-17-2013 01:17 PM

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What did you snag those light fixtures out of? Those don't look like the ones in my cluster.

HarleyT 01-17-2013 02:14 PM

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I'm in for one. thanks

cjohnson6772 01-17-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5823152)
That's the long and short of it, yes. You will also need a certain amount of patience! This is do-able, but isn't just a couple hour job. It takes some fiddeling with it to get everything just right.

I'll take 1 also.........

Providing that you are willing to be besieged by posts for help when I butcher the first cluster :lol:
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Beetle 01-17-2013 09:37 PM

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I am interested in trying this!

ls1nova71 01-17-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 67c10rustbuket (Post 5823495)
I am good for 2 please, No rush. :smoke:

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Originally Posted by chuckmc8 (Post 5823812)
I'm in for one of the $25 deals

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Originally Posted by HarleyT (Post 5824028)
I'm in for one. thanks

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Originally Posted by cjohnson6772 (Post 5824457)
I'll take 1 also.........

Providing that you are willing to be besieged by posts for help when I butcher the first cluster :lol:
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Ok, anybody who wants one, send me a PM and I'll respond with payment options. I'm going to go to the printer tomorrow and put in my order so he can get to work on them, but like I said, it will probably be a week or so before I get them.

Also, I wanted to comment on the being "besieged by posts for help" comment. I will help everyone with any problems you may encounter when doing this, but all the questions will have to be posted in this thread. That way if somebody else has the same question, it's in the thread and anyone can see it.

ls1nova71 01-17-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lytemup454 (Post 5823953)
What did you snag those light fixtures out of? Those don't look like the ones in my cluster.

THey are actually out of a '65 chevy. They are sockets that ground to the tin, just like the heater control light in a '67-'72.

Beetle 01-18-2013 12:21 AM

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I may get with you in the future on the decals ls1nova. I am gonna research it a bit more and may attempt it! It will save some $$$ so why not?

Beetle 01-20-2013 05:38 PM

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How do you go about getting the original numbers off the gauge face before you painted the new ones on? Sanded or what? Thanks.

ls1nova71 01-20-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beetle (Post 5830794)
How do you go about getting the original numbers off the gauge face before you painted the new ones on? Sanded or what? Thanks.

No sanding necessary, just polish them off with a soft rag (I use an old t shirt) and some Mothers aluminum wheel polish. Takes a little rubbing but its not hard to do at all.
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chuckmc8 01-20-2013 07:32 PM

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Payment sent-thanks

cjohnson6772 01-21-2013 02:49 PM

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Payment sent a few days ago....forgot to post it in the thread
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67swb72klb 01-21-2013 03:16 PM

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real nice work

Daaaanz67 01-21-2013 08:54 PM

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Any more of these kits available?
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Captainfab 01-22-2013 01:13 AM

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I'll take 2 of the kits. I'll send you a PM.......

sprint_9 01-22-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5565363)
Thought I'd post a quick update. I had the tune in my truck finalized yesterday, and now the speedo is dead on the money! I drove the truck to my buddy's house in Topeka, and when he was done with it, driving it home, the speedo was within 1 mph of what my GPS was saying.

What did you have to have done as far as a tune to get it to read properly?

mcbassin 01-22-2013 09:42 AM

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Couple of questions:
1.) what kind/brand of paint is it you are using to airbrush the stencil?
2.) Is that a factory or aftermarket tach you are using? Did you have to modify it to work on an LS motor?
3.) any chance you have a wiring diagram of what you made?
Thanks for sharing this modification.

ls1nova71 01-22-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Daaaanz67 (Post 5833689)
Any more of these kits available?
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Yes, there are more available.

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5834422)
I'll take 2 of the kits. I'll send you a PM.......

PM returned

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Originally Posted by sprint_9 (Post 5834440)
What did you have to have done as far as a tune to get it to read properly?

Just the basic tune stuff you would do to get any speedometer to read correct. You set your rear gear ratio, and tire size. Any tuner should be able to do this.

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5834781)
Couple of questions:
1.) what kind/brand of paint is it you are using to airbrush the stencil?
2.) Is that a factory or aftermarket tach you are using? Did you have to modify it to work on an LS motor?
3.) any chance you have a wiring diagram of what you made?
Thanks for sharing this modification.

1) I used some old Testors model car paint I've had for years, it's a mixture of green and white
2) It's an aftermarket tach, you just need to set the tach resolution from 6 to 3 in the tune. This doubles the signal sent to the tach since LS motors puit out a 4 cylinder tach signal.
3) I can make a diagram, but basically I just wired it like the printed circuit, with a few changes, like the voltmeter rather than the ammeter.

cjohnson6772 01-22-2013 12:53 PM

Re: 67-72 Electric speedo
 
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5835084)
2) It's an aftermarket tach, you just need to set the tach resolution from 6 to 3 in the tune. This doubles the signal sent to the tach since LS motors puit out a 4 cylinder tach signal.

So what did you do for the gage face? Or is it an aftermarket repop of an original?
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ls1nova71 01-22-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cjohnson6772 (Post 5835138)
So what did you do for the gage face? Or is it an aftermarket repop of an original?
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Yes, it's just a repop of an original, nothing fancy needed to make the tach work.

lts70 01-24-2013 06:18 PM

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Put me down for one
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HarleyT 01-25-2013 09:29 AM

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Payment sent Thanks
harley

wgeyer88 01-25-2013 10:13 AM

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I'll take one as well! PM sent

ls1nova71 01-26-2013 12:35 AM

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Hey guys, these were supposed to be ready today, but I didn't make it to the printer before he closed. I will definitley go by on Monday morning and will be shooting for Tuesday to ship them out.

I'm also going to be including another template with themfor the box that covers the back of the speedometer. You'll have to trace it onto a piece of sheetmetal and bend it up. It may require some tweeking, but it's better than having to start from scratch.

Thanks for everyone's patience, Eric.

wgeyer88 01-26-2013 12:48 AM

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Thanks Eric, looking forward to getting the package!

After running into this thread I got motivated to get my instruments sorted out while the rest of the truck is in progress. I stopped by pull and pay today and got some goodies! I figured while I was busy with the speedometer I might as well add a tach too. I found a tach from a 78 camaro in great shape and I think it was only $6.

They only had 2 96/97 S10's in the yard, both were tach dashes. I had the guy at the counter cross reference the speedometer for me and it turns out they are the exact same ones that are fitted to similar year blazers without tachs. I don't remember the exact year range, but I think it might have been 3 or 4 years. This was helpful because they had about 20 blazers that I could choose from instead of only the 2 S10's.

Can anyone else confirm that the blazer speedometer is the same as the S10?


Edit:
It appears that the instrument panels are the same on all tachless chevy s10, blazers, gmc sonoma, jimmy. The speedometer from any of these models should work. Definitely all '96 and '97 models, possibly '95 as well.

Captainfab 01-26-2013 01:03 AM

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That's not a problem for me. Thanks for keeping us updated :)



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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 5843866)
Hey guys, these were supposed to be ready today, but I didn't make it to the printer before he closed. I will definitley go by on Monday morning and will be shooting for Tuesday to ship them out.

I'm also going to be including another template with themfor the box that covers the back of the speedometer. You'll have to trace it onto a piece of sheetmetal and bend it up. It may require some tweeking, but it's better than having to start from scratch.

Thanks for everyone's patience, Eric.


67c10rustbuket 01-28-2013 11:17 PM

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Post disappeared? Anyway try this again.

Paid last week but haven't been back since. No hurry over here. Thanks again for putting this together.
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ls1nova71 01-29-2013 06:39 PM

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Hey guys, I have to apologize, but I just left the printer and they are not done yet. They were supposed to be done last week, but I didn't make it there on Friday so I went by when he opened yesterday morning. He said he was really busy and hadn't got a chance to do them yet, but said they should be done late in the afternoon today. So I just went by and they still are not done... and he said it could be a couple of days. I asked him what the worst case scenario would be and he said friday. I am truely sorry this has taken so long and I hope I haven't inconvenienced anybody. I'm not trying to stall on this, but apparently my small order doesn't get top priority. I hope everyone understands, and I hate the way this makes me look, it's just out of my control. Again, I do apologize and will get them all out just as soon as I get them.
Thanks, Eric
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