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Nice project .... looks like a lot of metal work will be needed. Appears that your up to the task though.
I'll keep watching. Ratty 46 |
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Not much more done, but I did spend some of Saturday night stripping it down.
(yes, those are motorcycles on a shelf in my garage) http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0774.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0773.jpg Driver's side - creative fiberglass work. I'm interested to see what's hidden by this. Thankfully, I have the repair panels for this side too: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0776.jpg S-10 T-5: no more granny gear and the overdrive will work nice with my 3.73 rear end: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0784.jpg |
Re: Starting my first build - 1966 C10
Update:
Transmission coming out soon: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0786.jpg Windows out and more stripped off the truck: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0785.jpg About half the rot cut out of the driver's side floor: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0792.jpg And...this shot is in relief. :D No rust :) http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0789.jpg Trans coming out through the cab: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0794.jpg Sum***** weighs about 200#: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0795.jpg Pulling the motor: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0799.jpg Hoisting the cab off of the frame: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0807.jpg Temporary spot for the cab: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0808.jpg Bed off, International Scout II tank to replace the bomb in the cab: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0813.jpg Bed up on end, determining centerline of frame: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0816.jpg Front end is off 1.25" to the passenger side: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/DSC_0819.jpg Now to see if I can straighten the frame myself, or if I should take it somewhere.... |
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Holy crap, that frame is way off. Too bad you were'nt closer to Oregon, the last frame I had went to the scrap yard because no one wants them here.
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I can't find one closer than a 4 hour drive, and it's $400 (though looks to be in nice shape). Just called around to some frame shops and have gotten rough estimates of $600 - $800 to fix this one. I'm trying to find out if I find a SWB frame - if I can add some more on the back to make it fit mine. :lol: |
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No pictures for this update;
The bare frame is now on the garage floor - I cut off / unbolted the F&R suspensions last night. Did I ever mention how the quality of one's life (in the garage) is directly proportional to the amount of correct tools are on hand for a project? Not to mention, a fridge full 'o PBR. I need to call around and start pricing steel today. I decided to just build my own frame to replace this one. |
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Great start to a cool build. Keep the pics and progress coming.
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Okay, full custom frame idea has been jettisoned in favor of a "new" 1964 rolling chassis I found.
Here's the donor: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...k/S6300968.jpg |
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Damn.. ship me the roof off the donor, lol.. :)
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nice project and progress i know what you mean by trying to keep your garage warm nice work
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Good looking truck, especially for this area (I'm over in jackson) Can tell it's an out of state rig. Mine is from Missouri, just not many left native to our area.
I feel for you on that engine. I bought a 454 last summer for a 55 belair project and paid $900 for it. Very clean, good oval port heads, sitting on a garage floor so couldn't hear it run. Ended up being a boat achor. Learned my lesson, no more engine buys unless i can hear it run. Anyway, good luck, going through some of the same things you are. I'm also going to relocate the tank, don't know yet exactly where. Looking at the possibility of using a cell in the bed, boxed in with a wooden hand built box with some kind of old time lettering on it. I've already done the motor and transmission, and have very little sheet metal repair to do, got lucky here, no frame off needed. Anyway glad to see another local on here. Good luck www.picturetrail.com/skysoldier173rd |
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Hey! Good to see a local too! :D
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2" chop of the crossmember - just a bit more filling and grinding to go. This, plus drop spindles, should get me almost 5" of drop without losing travel (and hopefully, ride quality).
Insider trading tip: you may want to buy stock in dewalt, as I seem to be using *lots* of their grinding discs. :D http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/IMAG0076.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/IMAG0075.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/IMAG0074.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/IMAG0077.jpg |
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Great Build!! Glad to see you don't get discouraged and quit when the road gets bumpy!! A true michigander!!!! Isn't a warm garage in the middle of winter nice? I'm just starting a 65 C10 SB Step side myself I'll try and get pictures. Just had it shipped here from Boone NC no rust :) p.s. finally someone else who drinks red beers!!!!!! :)
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Shoot me a pm if you need anything for your build - I've found a few sources here and there along the way. |
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Spending the first 18 years of my life in Ohio I understand the rust, but it looks like your makin quick work of it. I'll be keepin an eye on this one, Goodluck man
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Things have been a bit slow on the truck, as I got Fallout 3 for Christmas and have been busy shooting bad guise.
So, here are a few pictures: Old & Busted: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0311.jpg New Hottness: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0309.jpg Notches cut for R&P steering & inner fish plates roughed out. These plates will be the base to tie in the top and bottom of the frame's cross-section. This is necessary because of the notches AND the added moment arm the upper A-arm will have since it is mounted higher. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0306.jpg All I know is this: I want a plasma cutter so bad I can taste it. :waah: Other developments: I am now the proud owner of a Ford 8.8 IRS out of a T-bird supercoupe; stay tuned... |
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Hey Scott, what kind of shape is the chrome GMC grill in. I noticed you keep calling it a chevrolet, if it is in good shape how much will you sell if for. If it is a chevy you will not be using the GMC headlight grill. Kieth
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I'm not sure if I want to keep it or not - I like the look of the GMC grille, but might consider a trade even-up for a serviceable 1960 :chevy: grille. :D |
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Front end fabrication almost done
Comparison of the "chopped" crossmember vs. stock: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0313.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0312.jpg Backing plates in, notches cut out and reinforced: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0320.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0317.jpg Reinforcement for upper a-arms completed: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0325.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0323.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0322.jpg Next is to order the drop spindles and front-end crap, along with a mustang II steering rack and get it set up. |
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I have all the suspension parts in - and ended up going with an 87 T-bird PS rack. Hindsight being 20/20, shaving your front crossmember makes your steering components crowd your engine. :lol:
Rack and engine are near their final spots - ended up having to move the engine back an inch and I need to order a smaller crank pulley and damper. The current ones are 8" in diameter and the ones I'm getting are 6". This becomes very important with respect to where the rack wants to be for the steering geometry to work out. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0326.jpg High-dollar spacers to match alignment with the serpentine setup - temporary, of course. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0328.jpg Looking at the blurry spots - you can see where the rack would benefit from more clearance from a smaller damper and pulley. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0327.jpg I got these headers for like $5, and with the current mounting location of the engine (and ditching the mechanical clutch linkage) - these fit and will be used. Once I cut off the air injection tubing, there is plenty of room to run the steering shaft to the rack input (blurry silver spot in the photo) http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0331.jpg I'm hoping that the 1" I moved the engine back doesn't mess with my distributor clearance too much. I can add clearance to the cab, but I may just move the cab rearward an inch to help compensate the front wheel placement in the well. I guess we'll see... :D |
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These are on the way:
http://static.upillar.com/pictures/r...jpg?1287070880 Blatantly copying this: http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...-1_1024x0w.jpg Less than 1000 miles, $575 shipped to my door. Can't beat that price with a stick. :D |
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What's that? IRS under an old pickup truck!?
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0822.jpg ****, more Ford parts on a Chevy - FWIW, this is just getting stored in a convenient place for the moment; I need to massage the frame and the cradle to make it look less like an abomination when I fit it in there. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0823.jpg Small damper on, rack in it's final spot, but I have to deal with tierod ends; for the best geometry, they need to mount from the underside. Looking into heavy-duty rod-ends and grade 8 hardware or drilling and reaming the steering arm from the bottom. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0824.jpg Air injection crap cut out and holes welded up. Plenty of room for the steering shaft. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0825.jpg |
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Starting on the "rebuild" of the rear half of the frame. The frame rails above the control arms are going to interfere, so they're going away.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0347.jpg Got the spacers in for the wheels and had to test fit at least one. :D This is sitting at the proposed ride height (5" drop) - basically, the equivalent of the stock rear axle sitting on the bumpstops http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0345.jpg I really like these wheels. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0344.jpg Avortec AV3X Plasma/TIG/ARC. I love this thing. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0343.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0342.jpg This shows a better angle of where the frame rails will be cut out. I'm going to plate-in the rear subframe front and rear where it connects to the new rails I'm adding. When that is finished, the original frame rails will be cut fore and aft of the suspension and I'll blend in the coil perches and shock mounts. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0341.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0340.jpg Steering is done - well, close. :D Rack is in its final spot, the knuckles are drilled and tapered from the bottom and the rod ends just need some 1" I.D. DOM to tie the two bushings together on each side. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0339.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0338.jpg More boxing, one side of the rear rails replaced. Now I've got to build up the top spring perches, box that into the rear subframe and add some shock mounts. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0356.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0355.jpg |
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Aahhhha ha haa!!!!
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0002.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0001.jpg Coil buckets from a Jeep TJ, and XJ front springs seem to work well. Still have a LOT of grinding to do and fit the fuel tank, but I couldn't help myself... http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0008.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0007.jpg ...and now...STANCE! :D http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0010.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0009.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0004.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...n/DSC_0003.jpg |
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You'll be driving it in no time ..... Whats up with the 377???
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Well, it's a good 4-bolt 350 block with a 400 crank - but that's about it. the vortec engine I picked up should be plenty of power and might spare the transmission. :D |
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Minor update:
The IRS needed some clearance for the upper arms, so I cut down the fenderwells from the stepside box and "mini-tubbed" the inside of the box. If I ever find a 2WD AX-15, this will let me run 305/45R18 tires. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0035.jpg The tub is 4 1/2" deep and is the same width as the outside board on the stepside box; it should make for a clean look. I'll weld it from the outside in the fenderwell and use seam sealer to blend it at the box for (hopefully) a stock look. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0034.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0033.jpg Rear shock mounts in, swaybar location mocked up and initial positioning of the fuel tank. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0032.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0031.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0030.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0029.jpg http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...0/DSC_0028.jpg |
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man a very cool build i might say!! lots of custom work going on and yet i think its gonna look stock just will be lowered awesome!! what did you do to the long bed? and would you be willing to cut it??
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The original fleetside was fairly rotten - I ended up cutting out the useful pieces for people that might need patch panels down the road. So, it is already cut, but it wasn't really solid enough to make it a shortbed. :( |
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i was hoping you that the back pieces for the taillights and back up lights so maybe i could get a template to drill out the back up lights in my bed but thanks anyways!!
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bad ass bro , how low you think it would go if ya put bags inplace of those coils . i had a mecruy couger with that same IRS as was thinking the exact same thing . i am liking the looks of what your doing may have renewed my ideas . also what is ur plans for a clutch with the t-5 ?:metal:
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A clutch from a S-10 should work - or so I have read. :) Thanks for the props!
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