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justcuz 08-03-2008 01:10 AM

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Whats up with the balancer?

joe231 08-03-2008 09:30 AM

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:wop:

MacAttack 08-03-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2833467)
Whats up with the balancer?


Stuck.

MacAttack 08-03-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 2833618)
:wop:


Yep - you're right, and I'm working on it. I always use those Fuji throw-away cameras (27 shots) and get them processed at Wal-Mart (yes, I know - I should make the transition to digital) and this last one that's in now will also come with a disk, so I can share and you can all make fun of me accordingly,

:lol:

Chevy Fleetside 08-03-2008 10:27 PM

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You have to paint it all pretty before you take pictures.

MacAttack 08-03-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy Fleetside (Post 2834531)
You have to paint it all pretty before you take pictures.

Seven hours today - doing just that. NOT TRADITIONAL! I'm going to take a major load of crap for this, but the block's Navy gray - In honor of my Dad, who passed away a while ago and was an MCPO. Flat black pan, Chrome valve covers, gray block and intake manifold.

BTW: Is there a torque pattern for the 2-barrel intake manifold for a 65' 283 SBC?

A couple of disappointments when inspecting the long block during my paint work today: #1. All the hardware at the oil filter port is gone, including the male pipe thread fitting. #2. The push rod for the fuel pump isn't in the block.

Is this normal after an engine rebuild? I don't want to start a stink if it isn't warranted.

leftcoast66 08-03-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 2834659)
Seven hours today - doing just that. NOT TRADITIONAL! I'm going to take a major load of crap for this, but the block's Navy gray - In honor of my Dad, who passed away a while ago and was an MCPO. Flat black pan, Chrome valve covers, gray block and intake manifold.

BTW: Is there a torque pattern for the 2-barrel intake manifold for a 65' 283 SBC?

A couple of disappointments when inspecting the long block during my paint work today: #1. All the hardware at the oil filter port is gone, including the male pipe thread fitting. #2. The push rod for the fuel pump isn't in the block.

Is this normal after an engine rebuild? I don't want to start a stink if it isn't warranted.

I'm not sure about with your builder, but the guy who does all of mine usually gets me all new parts while I'm there, or he throws all those parts that I'll reuse to the side to give back since he has to take them off to do work on the motor.

justcuz 08-04-2008 02:27 AM

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What ever went with it should come back.
The harmonic balancer is stuck on the crank?
Torque pattern for intake is in any shop manual. Basically an x pattern from the middle 4 out to the outside. 3/8 bolts, 35 ft lbs as I recall.

justcuz 08-04-2008 02:30 AM

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Oh and I seem to remember grey being used by Chevy for truck engines at some point. Maybe more of a blue grey, but grey nonetheless. What cam did you have him put in the engine?

MacAttack 08-04-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2834808)
What ever went with it should come back.
The harmonic balancer is stuck on the crank?
Torque pattern for intake is in any shop manual. Basically an x pattern from the middle 4 out to the outside. 3/8 bolts, 35 ft lbs as I recall.

I’m calling the engine builder this morning to see what’s up with the missing components - just didn’t want to come off as a d*%k. The cam is fairly mild - just a bit more bump than stock, because I wanted to maintain the mileage with the 2-barrel set-up.

The harmonic balancer is off again - no biggie. Bringing some mic’s and a last-word indicator home from the shop tonight and measure the crank end for size and roundness. If needed, I have the guys at the shop take a sniff out of the bore and then coat the bore with red Loc-Tite.

I’m still going to stand this motor on end, pack dry ice around the crank end and heat the balancer a bit, prior to banging it on the engine.:lol:

MacAttack 08-04-2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2834808)
Basically an x pattern from the middle 4 out to the outside. 3/8 bolts, 35 ft lbs as I recall.

Give the guy from Alta Loma a cigar!

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...0427012716.pdf.

Page 4 of 4 - middle of the page - left.

:metal:

MacAttack 08-05-2008 10:43 AM

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My 34’ Ford style 'Gennie' shifter came in yesterday, along with 8 quarts of B&M trick shift fluid and some resonator pipe tips from Summit. Hopefully, after my trip to Wal-Mart on Saturday, I’ll be able to start publishing photos of this project.

;)

MacAttack 08-06-2008 03:58 PM

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Got the exhaust manifolds back from the stud removal guy yesterday - five studs and one threaded insert. They went to the sand-blaster today for a light dust-off. Tonight I’ll coat them both with the remainder of the Eastwood manifold coat that I applied to the Chevelle’s manifolds (still look good - over a year).

justcuz 08-08-2008 11:43 AM

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If your crank does not have a center bolt for the balancer, you want that baby as tight as it can be. Some early 283 cranks had no bolt to hold the balancer in. It was just a press fit.

MacAttack 08-08-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2840887)
If your crank does not have a center bolt for the balancer, you want that baby as tight as it can be. Some early 283 cranks had no bolt to hold the balancer in. It was just a press fit.

It will have a bolt by this time tomorrow - with any luck.;)

justcuz 08-08-2008 12:24 PM

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Good, the extra insurance of the bolt is worth the peace of mind.
Did you get the rest of your parts back?

MacAttack 08-08-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2840921)
Good, the extra insurance of the bolt is worth the peace of mind.
Did you get the rest of your parts back?

Supposedly - UPS today. We'll see.;)

justcuz 08-08-2008 09:45 PM

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BTW you still have the trans and bell housing and stuff?

MacAttack 08-09-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2841445)
BTW you still have the trans and bell housing and stuff?


Nope. Craigslist - last week - Gone in 60 Seconds. :lol:

justcuz 08-09-2008 02:42 PM

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Figures! I like the old cast iron bell housings with the rear mounts on them.

MacAttack 08-12-2008 05:30 PM

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Sometimes it's better not to run a sub-total on your costs during a rebuild. :waah:

As of this afternoon: $5, 277.87 :jdp:

joe231 08-12-2008 05:52 PM

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Ouch!!

MacAttack 08-12-2008 07:06 PM

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Yeah - it really adds up when you insist on doing it right:

Engine Rebuild: (including scrapping the first block out) $1,700
Motor Towers & mounts: $235
New H/D Radiator and shroud: $525
Hoses, clamps, fan, water pump: $150
Trans rebuild, B&M T/C & shift kit, linkage, deep pan: $900
Front coil springs: $140
HEI distributor: $100
Carburator rebuild & linkage: $135
Exhaust manifold repair: $100
Complete exhaust system: $540
Ginnie Shifter: $275
Gas tank neck repair assembly: $85
Steering column repair kits: $150

and so on ……and so on…and so on.......;)

But because I've had the Chevelle as my daily driver - I wanted to do this right the first time. At least that's the theory.:chevy:

joe231 08-12-2008 08:46 PM

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oh man, i thought that total was for the 283 build:uhmk:

MacAttack 08-13-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 2846306)
oh man, i thought that total was for the 283 build:uhmk:

Nah - sorry for the confusion. :lol:

This project just seems a bit overwhelming presently - hence me saying you shouldn’t do accounting in the middle and wait until you’re done. I’m sure it will be a fairly nice truck once I’m done, but I’m going to make one more purchase when it hits the street:

A Mossberg stainless pump for my new house’s balcony patrol. ;)

joe231 08-13-2008 08:15 PM

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:metal:
sounds like an effective security system :lol:

MacAttack 08-14-2008 10:18 AM

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Finished the painting and detailing of the steering column sheetmetal and associated pieces last night - just going with a flat black finish for right now.

Earlier this week I turned the knob off the shifter housing at the shop, sanded the finish off and Bondo’d the shift handle closed.

It came out nice, and because I’m putting the TH350’s shifter on the floor - I’m going to reassemble the steering assembly this weekend, in-between putting on the new flex-plate, rebuilt starter and intake manifold on the ‘283’.

* I’d like to share some pictures, but I can’t figure out how to resize for the forum - they’re coming out way too big to post.

:confused:

javadoc 08-14-2008 11:32 AM

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Sen dme your photos and I'll resiz em for ya

justcuz 08-16-2008 03:56 PM

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I still think you are money ahead, you will have a "new truck" at a lot less than brand new prices. That being said my nephew just bought a 2008 WT extended cab for about $15,000. Now that is cheap for a brand spanking new truck! The funny thing is a WT stripper is pretty well appointed these days. No carpet or electric windows but just about everything else is standard including AC.

MacAttack 08-19-2008 12:51 PM

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283 comes home - trying the harmonic balancer. .0022 press - too tight - out came the ol' puller.:waah:

MacAttack 08-19-2008 01:02 PM

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I spend way too much time masking.....;)

MacAttack 08-19-2008 02:59 PM

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Up in the air - waiting for the flex-plate. :rolleyes:

MacAttack 08-19-2008 03:24 PM

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TH350 comes home in the trunk of 'The Blue.' :metal:

MacAttack 08-19-2008 03:30 PM

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I happen to like flat black paint. :lol:

MacAttack 08-19-2008 05:57 PM

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Sand-blasted, eyeballed for cracks, 5 of 6 studs cut-off and burned out, one hole: threaded insert installed / $100 total for everything, then Mac put 5 coats of 1200 degree paint on the pair.

:devil:

joe231 08-19-2008 06:03 PM

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looking good

MacAttack 08-19-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 2855296)
looking good

Thanks. :chevy:

Fixed the holes in the intake manifold per.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2828353)
If you are keeping the 2 barrel you might want to plug the exhaust heat riser passages that go to the cast iron base of the carb.


justcuz 08-20-2008 05:19 PM

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Do I spy the nose of a 64 Chevelle? Same one the transmission is in the trunk of?

MacAttack 08-20-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by justcuz (Post 2856545)
Do I spy the nose of a 64 Chevelle? Same one the transmission is in the trunk of?

Yeah, that’s ‘The Blue’, my daily driver since the first week of February - when ‘The Tan’ (my C10) got ripped off, right there at the curb.

MacAttack 08-21-2008 01:49 PM

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Went to the new Original Parts Group (OPG) in Seal Beach yesterday and picked up my new stainless steel automatic transmission fluid cooling lines (the ones that go to the bottom of the radiator).

Outstanding quality and they were on sale (about $75 for the pair). The new facility is a palace! Got the nickel tour and while it’s mainly a Chevelle place, many of the running gear parts are common for our trucks. I laid out the assemblies on the garage floor last night - against the grubby, old, bent up tubes and they’re a perfect replacement.

Apparently, there are two (not so friendly) bothers that own these outfits, one owns Classic Industries and the other OPG, and their business styles seem to be really different:

Classic Industries show room process: Arrive with your page printed from their website (as you can’t order a WILLCALL over the web), the first guy takes your credit card - sweeps it - gives it back - retypes your order into their data base, the second guy take the print-out to the warehouse order bay, third guy pulls the order, fourth guy receives it and asks for your card again, re-swipes it, you sign the receipt and then you get to put your thumb-print on their part of the credit card receipt.

OPG show room process: Arrive with your WILLCALL order - printed from their website, guy takes it, NEXTEL radio in hand - hits the warehouse guy and your order is brought to the show room, first guy cuts the box open and helps you inspect your product, reseals the box, takes your credit card, swipes it, you sign the receipt and you’re gone.

Two different worlds.:lol:


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