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FarmerSid 05-18-2014 12:21 PM

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 
I have a hoist too and it's a Gods send.

STOCKISH 05-18-2014 06:31 PM

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Yeah, were not all as cool as you Sid! lol. Progress looks awesome!

Advanced Design 05-18-2014 08:31 PM

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Great looking project man !!

I am working on a '52 and was wondering if you could give me dimensions of the drivers seat ??

John-
Hope these help - pics are a bit fuzzy. The overall width as shown for the driver (and middle passenger - people were smaller in 1948!) is @ 36" and the dimension across the seat track is @20" and height is about 4 1/2". And am sure you are aware there is a raised platform for the driver seat. If you need something more specific please let me know.

Advanced Design 05-18-2014 08:47 PM

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Guys-
Really appreciate the words of encouragement. My closest car buddy lives over an hour away so we don't usually get much shop time together. Really good friend stopped by the shop Saturday (we use to build cars together 30+ years ago) and he doesn't get it anymore.

"What, you started on another one?" "What color are you going to paint it?" "Whadd'ya mean you might just drive it like this?" Blank blink blink stare...

Anyway the lift is great and was a 50th birthday present from the wife....wish it would have been a 40th. Always knew a lift would make things easier and until this one came along I didn't really understand until I experienced it myself.

Didn't want to leave the 'Burb dangling all week so we placed it on the body cart. The cart would be overkill for one project and since I have more vehicles on the list it is worth it. Will be real useful to drop the two front mounts, slide the cross member back and support at the rockers while I replace the rusty front metal.

Grandsons were helping today.

Advanced Design 05-18-2014 08:52 PM

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Tucked the 'Burb body back in the corner and moved the frame in place to remove the body mount and running board brackets for installation on the new frame.

oldman3 05-18-2014 11:41 PM

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Little guy in the green hoodie " Crap, even with these glasses I can't read the size".:lol::devil: When your old like me you catch these little items and think of yourself...Jim

ChiefRocka 05-18-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 6679041)
John-
Hope these help - pics are a bit fuzzy. The overall width as shown for the driver (and middle passenger - people were smaller in 1948!) is @ 36" and the dimension across the seat track is @20" and height is about 4 1/2". And am sure you are aware there is a raised platform for the driver seat. If you need something more specific please let me know.

Great, thank you much !!

My buddy has the 52 GMC, and I have a 62 GMC

His came without seats, so he is on the hunt !!

79azc10 05-19-2014 01:40 AM

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Wow looks nice so far , I love the look at the truck as well

Advanced Design 05-24-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 6679355)
Great, thank you much !!

My buddy has the 52 GMC, and I have a 62 GMC

His came without seats, so he is on the hunt !!

John - I have more pic's with dimensions for you. Please PM me and I will send them over full size for better resolution.

No Burb work was accomplished today other than moving the frame back off the lift to use it for the 56 Chevy. Wrapping up a pesky fuel leak and a few other minor items for the HRPT.

Advanced Design 05-30-2014 08:12 PM

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We had zero time in the shop this week and I was able to pick up some rust free front fenders, left inner fender well, radiator support and latch panel.

The fenders on the 'Burb were really solid and the right one was pretty bent up. The left one is good. Seller would only let these go as a set...I couldn't resist since rust free is hard to find here in the rust belt. Just buying them was much quicker than the truck build when I spent months looking for nice ones.

Green doesn't really match the faded purple...and if we don't paint the Burb we are building something cool and different or ugly and different. Probably more ugly and different.

Plan to get back on the frame tomorrow.

oldman3 05-30-2014 11:53 PM

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Nice find...Jim

Advanced Design 05-31-2014 08:11 AM

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Nice find...Jim

Thanks Jim, picked them up at Trick Trucks and Rods. He had the entire truck and it would have been a great patina look build candidate. Was tempted to get the whole thing....and was able to resist.
Grandsons coming over and it should be a good day in the shop.
Doug

99 to Life 05-31-2014 09:53 AM

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Something about finding parts, the hunt and or spontaneous find is beyond fun. Another reason why I just love patina, each part is just so unique, its like finding a whole new breed every time. Those look great, how much you have to fetch for em?

Hart_Rod 05-31-2014 10:42 AM

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Tucked the 'Burb body back in the corner and moved the frame in place to remove the body mount and running board brackets for installation on the new frame.

Nice project! I built a 48 5 Window back in the 2003. OBTW, Cool 35 Master 5 window coupe sitting in the background....that was the first frame off car I ever built...:metal:..:D

Advanced Design 05-31-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 6700490)
Something about finding parts, the hunt and or spontaneous find is beyond fun. Another reason why I just love patina, each part is just so unique, its like finding a whole new breed every time. Those look great, how much you have to fetch for em?

I agree 99 to Life - this hunt went pretty fast as I stopped by Trick Trucks and Rods in Ohio to pick up a few parts a couple weeks ago, mentioned my desire for a fender to owner Tom and he had these coming in. He described them and I agreed to buy them sight unseen. CFO (wife) mailed a check out right away and I picked them up this week. I paid way too much and I am way OK with that... I saved the time of the search and Tom makes some profit so he can stay in business. Plus, I like Tom...a win for both of us.

We are going to run the green fenders on the purple / blue Burb...all with the currently popular patina look.

Advanced Design 05-31-2014 12:41 PM

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Thank you Hart Rod. That 35 has been my long term project and I vowed to finish it before starting on the Suburban.....then I thought, this is just havin' fun and not a business, so we jumped into the 'Burb to get it on the new chassis with powertrain in. Then we will go back to finish the '35. Keeping a project journal here.
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=19534

Love the truck you built and that 35 is so cool...and in one of the colors we were considering.

Your Suburban build is great! Been following for awhile.

Advanced Design 05-31-2014 06:39 PM

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A good friend pulled the engine and transmission from the wrecked donor truck and brought them over to the shop today. Traded the truck to him for the labor. The 5.3 needs a good detailing and painting then should be good to go.

99 to Life 05-31-2014 10:18 PM

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nice powerplant. Man I didn't know you go those parts from ohio, can I get a contact # or he got a website. I'm not too far from ohio, I'v gone over to budd's which is the only place I know of that does antique salvage around these parts. budd's use to really only deal with AD stuff but he has quite a bit of stuff, though usually rough its hit or miss. I'd like to find some rear fenders and maybe a driver door for my current truck. Need a specific patina really. I have plenty of spare parts but would like to match the patina. though I'm usually not one to spend as much on some parts as I could buy a whole truck for!!

Advanced Design 05-31-2014 10:36 PM

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99 to life - here is Tom's website http://www.haulinhotrods.com/hh/Home.action

He does have the rest of the truck with the patina same as these fenders. He has connections out West I think and has some parts shipped in. When I built the black truck I bought a rust free front fender from California for $185 ( in 2007) and spent about $75 for shipping. Also found a pair of rust free rear fenders for $250 which was an outstanding buy...and it took me months of trying to do it. I bought these fronts for $300 each. Not too much more than the last one I bought plus shipping. And I didn't have to look months for them.

99 to Life 05-31-2014 11:11 PM

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nice link for sure. Ironically not even 5 years ago when I got into doing this stuff, I found a pic of that thieves AD truck online. It was one of my favorite trucks that made me really just fall in love with patina, AD trucks and just that look in general.

Yeah sometimes you gotta pay to play, I'v bought alot of my projects and or parts for 3-500 bucks, some more for sure. its crazy to think your two solid fenders cost more than what I bought my last truck for! but..... I also have 25 hrs in a rear fender for my 52' I'm painting, and thats just metal work and epoxy primer. So when it comes down to it time is money and then it doesn't seem bad coughing up some loot.

by the looks of what I see complete trucks bringing lately, I think parts and parts trucks or projects might be on the rise too, so its a catch 22. maybe more will get saved from scrappers and put on the road, but then makes it harder for average joes to get into it. I guess time will tell. You've been in it for a while so maybe you've seen some trends come and go. but... style never fades in my book.

Advanced Design 06-01-2014 11:01 PM

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Sometimes you pause the project progress a little to spend quality time with the Grandsons...

Coach529 06-02-2014 10:13 AM

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Sometimes you pause the project progress a little to spend quality time with the Grandsons...

That is what it is all about.....

Advanced Design 06-09-2014 06:01 PM

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The pesky fuel leak in the '56 Chevy turned out to be the screws holding the sending unit in. Some rubber gasket on the back of the screw heads seems to have fixed it. That took way longer than planned to fix so haven't had any time on the 'Burb for more than a week.

There was a thread on here (can't find it now) where someone was asking the difference between an AD Suburban and 1/2 ton truck frame. The only difference I've noticed (aside from the fuel tank straps) between the Suburban frame and the truck frame I have for this project is the second and third from front body mounts. Of course the truck doesn't have the third body mount. The fourth and fifth body mounts are simply a hole on top of the frame on the Suburban and the truck has the same holes.

Here are a couple pic's of the second and third mount.

Advanced Design 06-09-2014 06:06 PM

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Like a fisherman with my catch for the day....needed these for the frame going under the 'Burb.

And were able to do a little waxing on the '56....leaving for HRPT in the morning.

oldman3 06-09-2014 07:51 PM

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Enjoy the trip, don't drive to fast:lol::lol::devil:...Jim

Sssingo 06-10-2014 12:31 PM

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Loving the thread. looks like your burb has agood story to tell ;-)

Advanced Design 06-10-2014 05:26 PM

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Thanks Jim, while a waxed car should have less drag and be faster, the rain and traffic are keeping things in check.;)

Thanks Sssingo...this one seems to have some history. What's going on with your 'Burb?

Advanced Design 06-15-2014 09:37 PM

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Made it back from Hot Rod Power Tour (took in last three stops) and we had a great time. Saw Ogre's truck (and I assume Ogre driving) go by twice in Bettendorf and was never able to hook up. Great looking and sounding truck!

One of the roller replacement tires would not seal on the bead after repeated removal and replacement attempts....so made due with the furniture moving dolly that we bought 25 years ago for $5 each. They have been really handy over the years.

Advanced Design 06-15-2014 09:47 PM

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Moved the replacement frame onto the lift and removed the truck #2 body mount and installed the Suburban #2 body mount and middle running board bracket.

All the holes for installation (including the top one) were there. Because the body mount forward edge sits on top of the running board bracket rear edge, the frame is designed with an outward dimple to match the mounting surfaces. Looks like the frame will have plenty of spare holes.

Will blast these and make them look nice once we know everything fits.

oldman3 06-15-2014 11:23 PM

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Glad you enjoyed the trip, maybe one of these days I can make it. Frame is taking shape...Jim

Advanced Design 06-22-2014 10:04 AM

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Jim - HRPT was the most fun we've ever had at a car related activity. Hope you can make one.

Lots of yard work and shop organization / cleaning didn't leave much Burb build time. Made a little progress on the toe board....figured fixing one large hole would be easier that fixing a bunch of little ones. Been there done that before.

dug224 06-22-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 6700922)
A good friend pulled the engine and transmission from the wrecked donor truck and brought them over to the shop today. Traded the truck to him for the labor. The 5.3 needs a good detailing and painting then should be good to go.

Nice build. Man, you're gonna love that engine/trans combo in your build. Just got mine going and it was worth all the wiring effort. Dug

Advanced Design 06-22-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dug224 (Post 6731568)
Nice build. Man, you're gonna love that engine/trans combo in your build. Just got mine going and it was worth all the wiring effort. Dug

Thanks Dug! We have the same basic powertrain in the '56 BelAir and are very impressed. Was enjoying your build this morning. Awesome!

Advanced Design 06-23-2014 10:57 PM

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Before installing toe and floor pans, really needed to fill in the original steering column hole. When I was younger, I would mark the patch, jump up and run over to the grinder, remove a little, test fit and repeat a dozen times. Now, I have the belt sander right there to use. That little hospital table is one of the handier items in the shop.

An "OK" quality filler patch. Little hammer and dolly work to stretch out the shrinking from welding heat and primer surface will be good enough. Still need to install the triangular piece beside this one.

youngrodder 06-24-2014 10:22 AM

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Looks good. Keep it up.

Marc

Advanced Design 06-27-2014 08:16 AM

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Thanks Marc. Lots to do.

Really appreciating this body cart. Was able to move the front supports back to support across the rocker allowing plenty of easy access to the front floor area.

Advanced Design 06-27-2014 08:26 AM

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Hammer and chisel is still handy. Lotta Texas dirt in the body support. Good thing it had been in a dry area.

Just sectioning in the kick panel. There is a little rust above and may kick myself later for sectioning....or maybe not.

Wife is good with making the patterns.

youngrodder 06-27-2014 09:14 AM

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Looking good. The funny thing is that I had the same amount of dirt in my body mount braces. I was also working on that same area of mine last night, but I didn't have the help of my wife to make templates...

keep at it.

Marc

IWanna49 06-27-2014 11:54 AM

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Thanks Marc. Lots to do.

Really appreciating this body cart. Was able to move the front supports back to support across the rocker allowing plenty of easy access to the front floor area.

D

I love your roller stool!!!

Greg

99 to Life 06-27-2014 11:26 PM

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man, your a lucky dog. A. the space, B. the lift, 3. the cart, 4. the wife, E. the burb.


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