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Wow! Now that looks good! Nancy asked where I'm going to put another truck. Hmmmmm, who do I know that has a big shop? Thinking........

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NONHOG, When you get the final inspection/OK to occupy papers and walk into your newly completed shop, you'll be overwhelmed with pride and emotion knowing that it's the fruit of your labor and it really is completed. That weird feeling you get every time you open the door and turn the lights on won't go away for awhile. Mines been completed since June and I still get goofy when I go in there. Enjoy the fruit of your labor.

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Fishwacker its nuts how many times I've come up with a new ideas as I am looking around inside my dripping non finished shop/garage.
What I thought would work or be cool is changing from looking at the plans which my wife and I designed to the reality of whats there. All part of the fun . And I think you said it best "Blank Canvas" !
Here is what I saw when I got home from church today .

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My luck your new toy will be done before this shop :lol: but your truck would look good inside !

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not 2 b nose iee but what did that cost you??

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Only on suggestion. Put down a vapor barrier down before pouring your concrete. My contractor pulled mine up and now I pump out 8 gallons a day with a dehumifier. The cement guys will say that the concrete will not cure fast enough but the floor will sweat forever.

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I asked them about that , which WILL come up again . The salesman said no because something about the reinforced fiber ? bla ba bla
Did you add gravel over your site before the pour ? My fill was river run I think they called it than we added a couple inches of 5/8 crushed rock in hopes that what moisture does come up wont wick thru like it would with a dirt base.

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The fiber is only for reinforcement, like wire mesh. Make sure they add a vapor barrier and make dern sure they cut your expansion joints THE SAME DAY. They should be 1/4 of the thickness deep and spaced appropriately (based on thickness as well). I can't tell you how many times I've had to inspect failed concrete due to a lack of expansion joints.

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More pics after I got home some progress on the back wall . The windows are framed in as is the rear garage opening . Also a pic of the seasonal creek in the backyard that wasn't there yesterday ! 2 ' deep and 20 ' wide in spots YIKES !

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I had 6 inches of 5/8 minus and 6 inches of sand and the water comes up like a fountion. Put it down at all cost. Pit run doesn't stop a thing.

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Roofing is going on , few more days and the building part will be done.
(except for what I get to do, insulation,wiring,heat,lights ,loft,sheetrock etc.)
less concrete.

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2nd snow this year , might be it for the year ? Seattle area usually doesn't get much . Almost done with exterior ! Notice the huge man door in back.
Handy for removing lawn mowers , wheelbarrows etc. w/o dragging past cars.
:gi:

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Nice shop..Who is building it for you. I live in maple valley not to far from you. Im looking in to doing a shop. Hopefully sone than later.

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Nice looking shop. Come on up when you have it finished, Ill need some experienced hands up here :)

We are going to put in a shop here next to our house. Only have room for an 18x28. (My wallet couldn't afford a larger one anyway).

We've been waiting a couple of months for the city and county to ok our permits and they finally came through. Now I have to do a little site work and wait for the contractor to fit us in. Sounds like its going to be early spring-ish.

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Thats comming along good. Looks good too. What day did you get the snow? I didn't see any this weekend.

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Are you a county inspector ? I hear from differant sources that the slab can curl and/or crack if it cures only out the top (w/barrier)
I wonder how often that happens ? And would expansion joints help the cure
process ?

My house is down under road level , which can't help !

Sunday came and went within 4-5 hours.

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Good Job, Really Like the Non Traditional Look to it..........

Congrats on a Well thought out Plan.

Rick

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I'm not a county inspector but I do have about 15 certifications from ACI, NICET, etc related to concrete. All concrete will crack. You can only control the cracking and that's by use of saw joints. Joints won't help the curing process. A deeper thickness of concrete will cure slower than thinner lifts, and this could lead to cracking. If it were mine, I'd reinforce it with 10 x 10 wire mesh or either use fiber in my concrete (whichever one was the cheapest). I'd keep the slump of the concrete to 5" or less, and I'd cut the saw joints just as soon as it was finished.

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Any new pics, reports?

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Not much change , has gutters now , other than that I am still working with
my salesman or better yet waiting for him to call me (go figure) .
i'll add a picture of my last garage I added onto my old house. Was a 1000 sq.ft. bachlor pad without garage I added a 880 sq.ft. attached.
for those that have asked about me helping them build theres :lol: It took me
years to finish (neighbors must have loved that) . Now I am writing a check!
actually getting some great FF miles on the Visa card !

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Ran into my salesman at the homeshow last night , asked him where my garage doors were ? My stepson called last night and said he saw them put them up ! They did they just didn't close them so they weren't visible (DUH)
So only have concrete left and theyre phase is done !

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New doors !

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Now that I know "All concrete will crack". What can I use to fill/seal the cracks in my slab before I apply the finish coating? I'd also like to fill in the saw/expansion joints prior to coating so any thing with steel wheels or small wheels won't tend to hang up when rolled over these areas. Any advice is appreciated.

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So what's a shop like that cost?

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I really like that. Nice setup you got there.

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Fish,

The best thing to do with the expansion joints is to put the foam caulk-backer into the deep holes, and fill them with caulk. Saw joints can probably just be caulked.

B

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Most cracks will happen over a period of time, generally not right after being poured. If they do happen right away, you have more problems. You can fill the contraction joints with caulking or anything that doesn't harden. You want whatever you put in there to be able to expand/contract with the concrete.

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Well Its not one of the "price leader" type buildings . It has ,beside the custom design ,alot of upgrades and every lil thing jumps up ALOT in price .
The roof alone was thousands more but looks so much better IMHO than the typical siding type roof . And its sheeted underneath so its stronger and that
dreaded steel building sweat issue is less . adding windows and larger man door , insulated garage doors . Around here you can get a cheap building , which if it were in my backyard I may have, for around 8k . Mine on the other hand is far from done , so it'll keep costing for a very long time. Lets just say I could have bought a new Chevy truck with change left over .:lol:

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Looks good man.I am very jealous

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That is an exceptionally attractive shop!

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i want a shop, that looks so nice!

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Rigged up some lights so I can work at night , adding the vapor barrier
double and triple layered in spots . Had 4 mil lying around and covered that with 6 mil . Hope that does it !
Here are some late night pics

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Im impressed. That place is looking great.

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Looks great, Are you going to put a loft against the back wall ?

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Well maybe someday , I'd really like to but my $ is all gone so yes but when ?

Right now just doin the ol' one step at a time. Some day loft , Shop theatre
floor covering , lift , Muscle car , bla bla bla :lol:
Also have 3 kids , one soon to be in college , A wonderful wife whos been supportive about this shop but also wants her garage done up , as well as a kitchen expansion etc. etc. etc.
I think this shop will be alot like most of our trucks never really done !

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Heres some teaser pics of the concrete . Its done I got home tonite and got my trowel out and cleaned up some edges . these pics my wife took early this morning . I already unplugged the lights so more pics inside tomorrow .
its cold I'm staying inside now !

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Now comes the hardest part waiting for the cement to cure. Looking great.

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More cement pics , me making relief cuts with my skill saw. Not alot of fun and may not work ? Worth a try !

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Looking good. Your cuts should work, how deep did you make them? 3/8" to 1/2" inch should be fine.

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I went about 3/4 of an inch . I think thats what my concrete guy said to do ?
Doing a diamond around the 2 center post then connected them . Not sure if there is a rule of thumb as to how close to make them but since my posts are mostly 14 ' from each other thats what I'm doing. And maybe one more where the rear Garage door apron goes .