Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Phipp,
I really need more head flow data. Any chance you can give me 3 points of flow?

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

i'm on it i'll go to dart for this

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Thats all the info there is on darts website. I've never had them ported or flowed. i'll keep trying though.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

got these #s from web published by
Chevy High Performance Magazine for dart 23 deg 180 -230 cc iron eagle heads

.200 129/112
.300 182/139
.400 226/166
.500 258/178
.600 255/186
i will post these on origional build sheet thanks very much!

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Here's some flow numbers super.

intake/exhaust
.100- 66/55
.200-127/105
.300-184/134
.400-234/161
.500-284/183
.600-319/199
.650-331/205
.700-301/216.5

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

thanks for offering up some flow #s i apprechiate your help v/t phipp

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Ok.. I'll try to get both of yours done tonight..

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

4.560bore x 4.5 stroke 6.535 rod flat top piston
2.3 int 1.88 exh 119cc 365 cc int runner 2.300 Intake 160 220 277 325 360 379
1.880 Exhaust 132 159 193 219 234 250
@28"H2O. cam @50 dur 265int 275exh .700lift int/exh 112lc
int 7.940 height 4500 flange.carb 1050 dominator.
headers 2 1/4 primary 31/2 collector approx 30"tube

trans 2spd 1.80 1st ,ptc 10" 4800 stall
4.10 gear 31x10.50 w tire
2800lbs car

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

If you get bored, let me know and I'll give you all the specs on my Nova and you can plug the power curve into DA. Maybe you can find out where that illusive 8 is hiding. But don't want to take time and effort away from the guys here.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Thanks you very much for your time.

Engine info
Bore-4.155
Stroke-3.75
6" rod, scat crank, Je flat tops, comp cams internal wet belt, electric water pump, areo a1000 fuel pump. msd digital 6, 36 deg total timing.
Head data:
227cc Racing Head, Angle Plug, Standard Exhaust, 65cc 1068
http://www.airflowresearch.com/227sbc_rh.php
Compression ratio-11.6:1

Brodix HV1000
holley 950 mech with about 6.5" vac in gear
Header Data:
*1 3/4"* Tube Diameter hooker super comp
*30" * Tube length. to collector 3"

Cam info: ATTN: *4-7 SWAP*
# Grind No./Type RR-602 ROLLER Good cam for 3500LB bracket racing drags. 3000 stall. 4.56-4.88 axle ratio. 11-12

# 3500-7500 Valve Lift - INT
# .602 EXT w/ 1.6 should be 6.42
# .602 Valve Lash Hot - INT w/ 1.6 should be 6.42
CAM TYPE: SOLID ROLLER
PRODUCT USE: DRAG
Manufacturer: ISKY
Part#: 201602
installed @ 106.5 deg

jesel 1.6 SPORTSMAN SERIES SHAFT ROCKERS





Total weight= 3900
Front/Rear not sure 3 1/2" drop frnt 4 3/4" rear. Alum heads and fiberglass hood, batter in front fuel cell all the way in back. Rs 9000 on all 4 corners.

trbo 350 w/ hughes manual valve body. stock trans gears
3500 hd hughes
4:10
Differential - spool
Hoosiers "18131" 26.0/10.0-15 http://www.hoosiertire.com/specdrag.htm

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Marv,

PM it to me when you have time. I'll keep you in line :)

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

69trk,

I need to know what the lobe seperation is on your cam or exhaust centerline. You only gave me intake centerline. I could not find any cam timing info on the web. I have the rest of you motor done and ready for it.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Phipp13,

I need to know what pulleys you are running. Crank and blower size or number of teeth on the coggs. It won't let me simply put psi in for boost. I have everything else done and saved.

Shaun

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Sinister,

You gave me flow numbers, but at what lift?
No compression ratio
I'm assuming 112lc is 112 lobe seperation. What's the intake centerline?
I'm assuming the intake is a single plain?

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

68 C-10,

I tried finding the lobe seperation or exhaust center for that cam and was not very lucky. If you can find that, that would be great. The rest of it is saved.


Shaun

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

69trk

Can you please give me the details on your truck.. I want to see how it does with your ET/MPH based on your combo.


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Enginedrag/69trk.JPG


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Enginedrag/69trk.JPG

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Pm'd ya on the truck, do you think that my headers are choking this thing up? I already know that i need some aluminum heads that flow better.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

I'll try to play with the truck stuff later tonight or tomorrow. I am leaving for dinner in a few with my wife..

As far as headers. I quickly plaid with diameter and length as well as doing an optimze.. Believe it or not, you are not loosing much with you current set up. With 2.25" x 41" your only gaining 5ftlbs at peak and 2hp at peak.

I have it optimizing your cam while I'm gone. Normally an hour long thing.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

It sounds like there is no need to dump $700 in a new set of supercomps.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Hi Shaun- here are my numbers:

Engine info
Bore (4.155)
Stroke (3.75)

Head data:
Intake and Exhaust Valve size (2.02/1.6)
Head flow numbers
LIFT-IN/EX:
(0.05-40/22)
(0.1-70/53)
(0.15-110/77)
(0.2-140/105)
(0.3-187/135)
(0.4-225/158)
(0.5-240/164)
(0.6-243/171)

Compression ratio: (9.8)

Type of intake (dual plane) #10185063 (GM Parts direct) Considering Air Gap.
Carb or TB (Vacuum Q-jet, worked for hi perf)

Header Data:
(1.75 primary/3.00 collector) Tube Diameter
(37") Tube length to collector

Cam info:
Link to MFG's web page or cam card would be best but.. (CompCam specs (12000-5) 6057/6014 104+4) This will be very hard to find, but here's what I know.
Duration at .050" (244/250)
Total Lift and based on what rocker ratio (.521/.533) (1.5)
Intake centerline (Don't know.)
LSA (104) with 4 degrees advance
Overlap (74)
What rocker are you using? (Proform roller)

Blower/turbo? No.



Vehicle Data Stock
Total weight (3800)
Front/Rear weight bias (Don't know.)
What trans you are running (700r4)
Size converter (2800)
Gear ratio (2.73)
Differential (Open)
Tire size (stock 235/75R15).

Are you running N20? (No.)

Thanks-

-Todd

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Thanks for your time Shaun. I believe this link will have all the info you need.
http://www.iskycams.com/timingchart....g_chart_id=240

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

shaun,the crank pulley is 6" and the blower pulley is 2.625". i believe thats 144% overdriven. i really apprechiate you doing this for me. what do you think of my cam profile?? i was told that it was a good cam for running a blower by the people who sold it to me.also i just looked at the dif between 1.5/1.6 rocker ratios and corrected lift 4.88/5.10@1.5 should be 5.10/5.44 for a 1.6 rocker
here is some added vehicle info
weight 3800 lbs
racing turbo 400
stall 3200 kinda low for blower app
ford 9" posi diff 4.10
tire 31x16.5x15
weight bias 55/45

v/r Phipp

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

68 C-10

Here is your engine dyno stuff.. Unfortunately, I'm getting the "converter is too low" to make it work in drag analyzer. I'll play with it more.

http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng...g/68C-10_1.JPG


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng...g/68C-10_2.JPG

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Hey 69trk,

Does this look a little more like your graph?

I had the bearing and piston tolerances set to production vs race. Seemed to make a little difference :)

http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Enginedrag/69trk3.JPG


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Enginedrag/69trk4.JPG

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

thanks, now i just have to figure out my converter and what else is keeping me out of the 10's.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Holy moly thats so cool. Your good, real good.
Those are fast numbers you have on your truck, wish i could click off a 11 something ET.
Converter to small, dang that's new.
Thanks so much.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

The program is funny with the converter.. Not too sure why it does it. But in all reality, you could use a bigger converter :)

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

sorry about that, lifts for the # provided were .200.300.400.500.600.700
and after checkin my cam card I gave you the old cam not my new one
so .775 int 284 @ 50 dur ,.723 exh 292@.50dur int cl 105 ,ls 110
yes single plane intake. and comp ratio 10.3

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Big block chevy
4.00 stroke
4.28 bore
stock clearances
stock water pump
electric fans
MSD disributor, coil, box
iron oval port cast# 336781 118 cumbustion chamber, 256cc in./114cc exh. ports stock but I have mildly port and polished them
2.19/1.88 manley severe duty valves
8.7:1 CR
177 ci Weiand blower 8lbs boost
hooker 2"x35" primary and 3 1/2"x10" collector
Comp 11-564-4 @.050 230/244,113 lobe seperation, 108 In. center
1.7 rocker
850 demon blower carb
stock geared TH350
2500 converter
3:73 limited slip diff
29x18x20 Mickey T.drag radials

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Who all do I owe answers to? I've beenrunning around a little and also just picked up a pup so I have lost track.. Here is my track guard dog :)

http://73-ls1.com/Dog/puppy5.jpg


http://73-ls1.com/Dog/puppy1.jpg

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Nice pup! Rotty?

I'm post 60. I was missing the ICA. I supplied all other info.

Thanks and Happy New year!

-Todd

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

What breed is the pup?
I dug up some #s.
.100-69/56
.200-158/102
.300-217/135
.400-254/161
.500-263/186
.600-274/209
.700-272/219
Will this help?

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

He is a 7 1/2 week Rotty. I should be able to finish yours up Phila tomorrow and get to yours Tmiller..

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

hey shaun, fyi phipp13 here i've been in line since 12/18/8. i hope that you and yours had a great holiday. we sure did. have you picked a name for your pup? Has he got you trained yet? :) If you get a chance could you run my #s i posted for you? l would be very greatfull. i've seen your work and i'm impressed if i can return the favor please let me know. please check out these threads and let me know what you think. respectfully Phipp13
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=319383
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=318731

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

I wish I had decent cam info on my old combo but I bought a cam that was way to big(supposed to have been a custom grind for my combo) and it wouldn't run so I borrowed a cam from one of my buddies. I have the box it was in at home but it was a regrind so I don't know how detailed the info is.

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

I am answering your questions to the best of my ability. I am really looking for power numbers more than drag. If I need more just let me know. Thanks in advance.
Engine info
Bore-4.030
Stroke-3.75
Factory tolerances or set up more as a race motor? not factory
Electric Water pump? mech wp
Electric Fan? yes


Head data:
RHS Pro Torker64cc comb. 170cc intake runner 2.02 Intake and 1.60 Exhaust Valve size
Head flow numbers:
.100-77/74
.200-155/140
.300-220/168
.400-263/172
.500-270/174
Compression ratio: 9.5:1

Type of intake Eldebrock Performer RPM Air Gap
670 cfm Holley Truck avenger

Header Data:
1-1/2 Tube Diameter
28" Tube length to collector (this can be your best guess, but the more accurate, the better)

Cam info:
http://compcams.com/Cam_Specs/CamDet...x?csid=97&sb=1
Duration at .050"-.226/.234
.480I/.498E w/1.5 ratio
Intake centerline-107
LSA-111
What rocker are you using?Summit Roller Rockers 1.5 ratio



Vehicle Data (I am going to try to keep this simple and use my aero for the most part).
Total weight-completly stock
Front/Rear weight bias ????
What trans you are running Stock 4x4 700r4
Size converter 2000-2200 stall converter
Gear ratio-3.73
Differential Detroit Locker
Tire size 31-10.5-15 bfg all terrain

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Phipp,

This is what I have for you..

http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng...hipnumbers.JPG


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng.../Phipgragh.JPG


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng.../Phipp13ET.JPG



Drag analyzer says you would be best shifting 1-2 at 6,900 and 2-3 at 6,950.. Seems a little high with it peaking at 6k. It also says a 4,200 verter would be best, moving your 60' to a 1.50 and netting you a 11.40 @ 111.7..

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Sinister..

Here is are some motor numbers for you.. But, as far as the car goes, what type of car is it? The program is set for our trucks more or less. So the frontal area and drag coef is going to be way off. They have a bumch of profiles and I can drop it in a similar car. If it's a tube chassis glass body, well, they have profiles for that too :)


http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng...Sinister65.JPG



http://73-ls1.com/67trucksetlist/Eng...ter65graph.JPG

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Ok.. Not sure I'm going to get to much further..


Phila, BTW 104+4.. You ICL is 104 and you cam has 4* of advance ground in to it making your ECL a 112.. Thats what 104+4 means..

Re: Engine Analyzer and Drag Analyzer.. Willing to put your info in.
 

Thanks Shaun, that makes sense-

I'm in no hurry for the numbers- just grateful.

-Todd

BTW- my daughters (7 & 9) enjoyed the videos of your track passes- Vrooom!