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Re: Body man head aches

A contract protects both Parties. Take it back down, a reputable shop will not continue what someone else has done because they dont know what was done , or what products used. In painting all products should be of the same line, or proven compatible. I would just save up and take to Jason, or someone else you know that is reputable.

Good luck .

Re: Body man head aches

That wouldn't work for me, I would theaten to go to court or to stand out in front of his shop and tell everybody how he ripped you off.

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One gets what he pays for and if'n he gets hooked by a con man, then he desrves to get that same amount of satisfaction in any way he can.

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Probably not so much a con man as it is another guy who has the cash up front from someone he feels he knows well enough to be able to sluff off.
I've seen it too many times over the years. "Ah, I'm giving him a deal so I don't have to get it done right away and I have the money already anyhow". I've even gone along and helped pull a couple of rigs out of shops for that same reason.

I'd say written contract up front on exactly what is to be done, the level it is to be done to and the stages that payment will be made. That meaning that after the work reaches a certain level of completion. (wish Opra had spell check) a set payment will be made.
That process is pretty much the norm for the guys I know who do custom body and paint work around here.

Re: Body man head aches

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Originally Posted by jbristo67 (Post 3324257)

He knows better then to try to do that. Not saying I am a bad a$$ or anything but he knows better. I havent been this mad in a long time. I told him today I dont want his money. I just want my truck back like we agreed to it. He has done more than 900 worth of work so I really have the upper hand. Sad thing about this whole deal is he is a hell of a body man.

Little contradiction in that statement... You said you had to call him not to half ass stuff? But he is a hell of a body man? Im assuming you just thought he was and he really isnt?

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Originally Posted by jbristo67 (Post 3324464)

He was making excuses. He did even start on it until December and I dropped it off in July. Yeah all of this was agreed to in advance. I told him when I dropped it off I was in no real hurry for it but I had to have it by Jan. I was very clear about that. I had all his parts to him plus 500 before I ever took him the truck

This is the line that starts all the problems for people. Most body guys i know will take WAY more work then they can do... And they wont finish them in order. They finish them in whatever way they think they can get away with. Once you said your not in a hurry, it went to the bottom of the list and 12 other jobs came before yours.. You have to make sure that there is a sense of urgency even if there isnt.. Once they get that sense of urgency, yours stays on top ya know...

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Originally Posted by jbristo67 (Post 3326870)

Nope this was just to put it into primer. I had it sand blasted bought all materials and parts. Truck didnt have a dent in it. He had to replace rockers and lower door skins. The 1400 was labor only and like I said the truck didnt have a dent in it

Im pretty sure the vehicle had some dents on it.. Come on... Be a little more honest with us here ;)

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Originally Posted by big mike71 (Post 3343621)

That wouldn't work for me, I would theaten to go to court or to stand out in front of his shop and tell everybody how he ripped you off.

What the TS needs to do is just learn from this experience and DONT GIVE UP..... Find another body man, be very specific in what you want and when you want it and monitor him. Good luck and put up some pics if you could... I wanna see.

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Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 3343711)

Little contradiction in that statement... You said you had to call him not to half ass stuff? But he is a hell of a body man? Im assuming you just thought he was and he really isnt?

This is the line that starts all the problems for people. Most body guys i know will take WAY more work then they can do... And they wont finish them in order. They finish them in whatever way they think they can get away with. Once you said your not in a hurry, it went to the bottom of the list and 12 other jobs came before yours.. You have to make sure that there is a sense of urgency even if there isnt.. Once they get that sense of urgency, yours stays on top ya know...

Im pretty sure the vehicle had some dents on it.. Come on... Be a little more honest with us here ;)

What the TS needs to do is just learn from this experience and DONT GIVE UP..... Find another body man, be very specific in what you want and when you want it and monitor him. Good luck and put up some pics if you could... I wanna see.

I will go take some pictures tomorrow. She really is pretty straight. Aside from 3 or 4 dings there really are no dents. It looks like I am about to go back to work. When I do I am going to buy an 8 inch disc sander and remove the bed and take it all the way down to metal. Then I am going to take it to the guy from above's understudy and have him do my body work and paint it. I am done with this primer stuff. I am just going to take it to him piece by piece all the way down to metal and then I am going to bring it back and put it back together. It should be beautiful. I am starting to get a little bit of my drive back to work on it and that is good because I have alot to do.