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oldblue1968chevy 10-31-2009 11:49 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
looks sweet!

did it already have disc brakes on it?..

kev2809 10-31-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
ya it came like that...

finally got some work done today. pulled apart the driver side and got the 2 top bag bolts holes drilled...hopefully I can get the airbag fitting hole tomorrow before football starts. ill post some pics later tonight

kev2809 11-07-2009 12:21 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
well, i thought i had it all done untill i started bolting up the u bolt...i didnt tighten the bags yet, but when i jacked up the trailing arm and put in the u bolt, my bag kinda leaned and now doesnt sit flat up against the frame. are my holes off or something?
i guess my little orange template i made wasnt perfect lol..
[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0380.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0447.jpg[/IMG]
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0448.jpg

project 67 sub 11-07-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
looks like you need to either tighten the bag bolts down or get some shorter ones

kev2809 11-07-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
i def need shorter ones, but i just widened one of the bolt holes and sits flush now. before i ran my airline to the t fitting, it looked like bag deflated crooked...but now i ran them and aired it up and down it looks straight. im gonna wash up then snap some pics...

kev2809 11-07-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
heres some pics..

driver bag deflated
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0461.jpg
rear aired up
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0452.jpg
rear dump
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0458.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0454.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0455.jpg

kev2809 11-07-2009 05:56 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
rear dump, front up
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0456.jpg
front all up
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0451.jpg
all up
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0453.jpg
all down
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0462.jpg


on the full lift pics, they might go a little higher, but i get nervous on putting more air in. my gauges arent hooked up and i dont wanna blow a bag lol

project 67 sub 11-07-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
you gonna go lower than that

kev2809 11-07-2009 09:04 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
definitely. I still need drop spindles and recessed cups in my lca's. for the rear I still need drop blocks and to notch the frame...still a lot of work to do!

brian69longbed 11-16-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
hey you can't cheat like that! letting the air out of the back tire to make it look lower... sheeeesh. ha ha ha. you got a load of work ahead of you. great progress so far!

brian69longbed 11-16-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
your bags should handle at least 160 psi. i have firestones and i hooked them straight up to shop air. your ride height psi should be somewhere around 60psi, the rear probably less

kev2809 11-16-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
ya I have the gauges for them, but my t fittings for the valves are STILL on back order, so I haven't ran everything yet.

kev2809 11-27-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
little update. i started on my other rear lower quarter panel yesterday. on this side i figured i would do it a little different. on the driver side i used a long base bed side panel because i didnt need an entire quarter panel. so this side i bought the whole thing since i needed it anyways. i also decided to use some rust converter this time around, unlike the other side. which is ok though because i decided i might cut out the entire rear floor anyways, so i can still repair the driver side if i needed to. anyways, here a few pics after a few hours of work...

some genius thought it would be good to make a "custom" hitch, and they also welded the bottom of the bumper across the top of the hitch, so i had to cut that off. i will cut off the hitch later, but i need to find a bumper anyways so its gonna stay for now...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0485.jpg

here is the cutout with some dupli color rust fix, then followed by some krylon rust tough enamel...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0490.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0491.jpg

im not sure if all the replacement parts include the reverse light mounting piece, but mine didnt. so i had to cut it out of the old piece, then weld it in on the new piece. i welded it in on the back side, then sprayed the rust fix then rust tough enamel, just to be sure.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0492.jpg

then i lined it up the best way i thought looked good, then tacked a few spots in.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0493.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0494.jpg

i will try to go back tomorrow and tack some more...i have to figure out something around the tailight area body line. the new sheet metal is more boxier than the original, so i have to fix that before fully welding it in.

kev2809 11-28-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
got it all welded up today. started grinding down the welds with a flap disc but im starting to run out of light. gonna finish it up in the morning and hopefully spray a can of primer on it then lay some filler next week.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...9/DSCN0496.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...9/DSCN0495.jpg

since the new piece is a little more boxier than what it should be, i had to pie cut both sides, shape it to match, and weld it up. this left a little indention a little less than 1/4", so im gonna have to address this later. im gonna try to pull it out some before i start laying filler.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...9/DSCN0499.jpg


i found this interesting....i noticed a few spots of filler the previous owner had put on , so i stripped it down and found this. looks like a bullet hole, lol. there is 2 more spots like this so im gonna see if theres anymore.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...9/DSCN0501.jpg

VA72C10 11-28-2009 11:15 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Looking good.

Puropedo 11-29-2009 02:48 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Great job Kevin! Watching you do all this stuff makes me wonder why wouldnt you dare to make your own c-notch....Trust me,,,you got the skillz!!

kev2809 11-29-2009 02:37 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
lol. i wish i could. i think for the notch im gonna go with what you and n2trux suggested with the pipe. ima try to go monday to get the 8.5" pipe. how long you think i need for the front lca's and the rear notches? i was thinking maybe 18" long?

Puropedo 11-29-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
18" should be plenty, just remember the measuring rule....mesuare twice, cut once. Also what is the reason you want to cup your LCA's?

kev2809 11-29-2009 07:17 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
right now the stance is waaay to high lol. i plan on running drop spindles but i want those extra 2 inches it should give me. actually its more like 5" lower than now because my cups are 3", and with the recessed cups thats a 5" swing. that should finish the stance i want for the front, and the rear im still thinking of stealing your idea with that rear z. that should be a nice low stance hopefully

Puropedo 11-29-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
I've never cupped LCA's before, but I've read you dont gain any drop from it,(and it makes sense because of the UCA ball joint binding) Thats if youre using bags of course ..:crazy:

kev2809 11-29-2009 08:25 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
really? i thought that since they became recessed into the cup instead of sitting on top it drops it some?

texastrendz 11-29-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
it allows the front crossmember to lay on the ground. also lets you bolt the bag to the lower arm instead of cup just sitting in. not that important.

VA72C10 11-29-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
The main advantage is to allow you to have more air in the bag when riding low. It won't you to drop any more than just standard cups in the lower control arms trimmed down. You'd hit the inner fenders or the heater box anyways.

Puropedo 11-29-2009 08:40 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
The upper control arm only goes so far up binding the balljoint preventing it going further up. I hope this makes sense, if not, try pulling the spring out, bolt the spindle back and use a jack to lift the whole assembly, you will notice the travel will stop before the LCA hits the crossmember, that is the point where the upper balljoint is binding not allowing for more travel.

texastrendz 11-29-2009 11:05 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
sorry man, but mine hits the pavement before the balljoint binds, stock upper arm. it does ride a lot better with the a arms cupped. more air in the bag.

Rokcrln 11-30-2009 12:27 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev2809 (Post 3645535)
the rear im still thinking of stealing your idea with that rear z. that should be a nice low stance hopefully


Before you do this look into PorterBuilts 3" dropped rear trailing arms. They will let you lay frame (with a notch) and the arm never comes close to the frame like the stock ones do. This is one of (not the only) the reasons guys Z the rear but now you don't need to. Might be worth looking into.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

kev2809 11-30-2009 01:15 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
good idea rokcrln. I think I looked into them once. im gonna have to check them out again. u know the price off the top of ur head

kev2809 11-30-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
$499 for a set...ouch. i think i could run a link setup for that price. is there any advantage for those trailing arms compared to a link setup other than these bolt in? they look like a nice product..

Puropedo 11-30-2009 12:46 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by texastrendz (Post 3646119)
sorry man, but mine hits the pavement before the balljoint binds, stock upper arm. it does ride a lot better with the a arms cupped. more air in the bag.

Maybe you should be sorry but for your balljoints, Im confident your balljoints are binding, all the weight from youre engine,body or them being so loose makes for the extra travel binding them, you may not feel it feel it, but trust me, they are binding.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kev2809 (Post 3646860)
$499 for a set...ouch. i think i could run a link setup for that price. is there any advantage for those trailing arms compared to a link setup other than these bolt in? they look like a nice product..

If you decide to go with Porterbuilts "arms" you will also need to buy/fab the step notch. It seems Nate from porterbuilt is still working in this set up, Im pretty sure you wont be able to use the "stock spring location for mounting your bags, also you will need to relocate youre shocks and miselaneus items. Those arms are a beuty thought and if you have some cash to spend this would be a good option as LFD suggested.

kev2809 11-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
i wonder if anyone can chime in on the cup issue. ive got quoted for 120 to cup them, so its not that expensive but if its not gonna gain anything theres no point in doing it. anyone with comparing shots of cupping them and with running cut down cups?

Puropedo 12-13-2009 07:17 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Hey Kevin, any updates on your burb?

kev2809 12-13-2009 08:57 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
nothing really lately, i was working on fixing the rust on the 3rd door at the bottom, i got the rust spots cut on on the inside and outside and a friend borrowed my welder so im stuck with a hole in my door until i get it back lol. i did get about all my fittings put together last night. just waiting to do the leader hose for the comp and the pressure switch until i can figure where everything goes. im going to order my wiring kit for the switches tomorrow.

also, i got a quote from a local welding company for 18" long pipe and they said about $65, that includes cutting...but the biggest they had was 6.5"...which i dont think will work. that will only give me a 3.25" notch which is not worth it to me. and i dont even think 6.5" is big enough for my front bag cups :(

Slick67 12-14-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
I want to see some dang progress pics, Kevin!!!!!! :lol:

Puropedo 12-14-2009 11:52 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
$65 for 18" of 6.5 od tube? That is insane! Try looking somewhere else.:smoke:

kev2809 12-15-2009 12:33 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
well the inner diameter was 6.5, the od was 7"...but still sounded a little dumb. she was telling me about another place but i wasnt even listening to her lol. i kinda figured if she was overpriced, the place she is referring me to would be too. i may have to make a few calls to houston area places, i think it would be cheaper there.

kev2809 12-15-2009 12:34 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick67 (Post 3674225)
I want to see some dang progress pics, Kevin!!!!!! :lol:

i just got my welder back today david, calm down!! lol, if the rain stops over here ima weld that door patch in tomorrow. i should be off of work tomorrow because i have to take my 11 month old daughter to the doctor, shes been sick nearly 3 weeks now. :(

Puropedo 12-15-2009 12:38 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
If youre on a budget try buying some 3" flat and just try to bend it "form it". Are you still thinking of cupping the LCA's?

kev2809 12-15-2009 11:40 AM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
i still wanted to cup my lca's as of now, thats why i was trying to get enough to cover the lca's and the rear notches.

mcbassin 12-15-2009 05:28 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
Great Project! I like the way you are working through all the rust and body work. Keep at it!:ito:

kev2809 12-15-2009 07:47 PM

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 
thanks. i got the door patch welded in today. i rushed it a little because i had to keep going back inside to check on the kids, so it warped a little but i hammered back some. then sprayed some "rust preventive" on it, front and back. still need to do some grinding but im losing light. tomorrow ill get the inside corner cut out. heres some pics...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0551.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...c/DSCN0555.jpg


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