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TR65 02-08-2011 08:37 PM

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Jordan,

Your build is looking really good. It is amazing what wheels and tires will do to the look. You will love the LS2.

There are some pictures of what I did at the end of my power steering conversion thread:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=374519&page=2

So I needed a remote resevoir so I bought the surplus NASCAR unit on ebay that had the nice aluminum unit. The standard pump clears fine but the inlet elbow is close to the frame but doesn't hit.

I fabbed up a bracket to clamp the resevoir to and it bolts to some existing threaded holes in the alternator support.

I think the late model pumps are fairly standard and will bolt up correctly to the accessory bracket.

Good luck,

TR

shenk10 02-09-2011 02:46 PM

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Thank you very much for the info. I bought engine adapters to make the engine fit, but I think the shells I have are wrong and the engine is off about 3/4" so I have to talk to the company. But from my mock up it seems that the power steering might hit the frame rail, so I might have to do something like this. The reseivor looks good and pretty much matches everything in your engine bay, so I might have to look into something like that. I didn't think the wheels would make as much difference as they did but now I'm a firm believer that wheels can make almost anything look good. haha

I also really like how you kept everything stock. I think I might do some little modifications like shave the seam on the back of the cab and add a rollpan instead of rear bumper but other than that I want to keep it stock looking. Great Build.

Thanks,
Jordan

66BowTieBoy 02-09-2011 06:31 PM

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Mr. TR,

I've been a member of this board for twenty-two months and don't know how I've missed your project. But, today I stumbled across it and it has left me almost speechless. On a daily basis I have to applaud the talent, skill and inovation I see from many of the folks who share their labor of love on this site. But in my mind, when I google 'Super Sleeper' what I see is your pickup truck. The way you have incorporated the latest technology while retaining that 'nothing special, Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' look is priceless. You are without a doubt the 'Mr. Miyagi' of Hot Rodding and I bow to the master... In fact, after review of page #1, I wanted to go outside, dig a giant hole, throw all my tools in it, push my C10 in and cover it with a new vegetable garden.:thud: Only problem is it's about 11 degrees outside and the ground is frozen, so I'm just go'na hang around and hope some of the talent here might rub off.

Keep them photos coming...! :c2:
Danny

TR65 02-09-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy (Post 4474248)
Mr. TR,

I've been a member of this board for twenty-two months and don't know how I've missed your project. But, today I stumbled across it and it has left me almost speechless. On a daily basis I have to applaud the talent, skill and inovation I see from many of the folks who share their labor of love on this site. But in my mind, when I google 'Super Sleeper' what I see is your pickup truck. The way you have incorporated the latest technology while retaining that 'nothing special, Wolf in Sheep's Clothing' look is priceless. You are without a doubt the 'Mr. Miyagi' of Hot Rodding and I bow to the master... In fact, after review of page #1, I wanted to go outside, dig a giant hole, throw all my tools in it, push my C10 in and cover it with a new vegetable garden.:thud: Only problem is it's about 11 degrees outside and the ground is frozen, so I'm just go'na hang around and hope some of the talent here might rub off.

Keep them photos coming...! :c2:
Danny

Danny,

Now I'm speechless. Thanks for the kind words.

I really love driving the truck. It has been dead reliable since July when I got it running. It really surprises people leaving a stop light and it loves cruising at 75 mph.

TR

structures 02-13-2011 11:29 AM

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Hey TR did you paint your truck fawn/ivory two tone? What type did you use?

TR65 02-13-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by structures (Post 4482782)
Hey TR did you paint your truck fawn/ivory two tone? What type did you use?

Robert,

My dad had a a couple of my high school buddies paint the truck before he gave it to me. Not a great paint job but OK. They got the fawn about right but not exactly. I don't know what they used.

Your cab patches are looking good by the way.

TR

structures 02-14-2011 01:00 AM

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Thanks, I'm learning. I only ask because my truck was fawn/ivory from the factory. I still haven't decided on color.

TR65 06-06-2011 07:15 PM

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Hey guys,

I finished up the A/C install and wrote a thread on it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=468107

TR

bluex 06-07-2011 12:17 AM

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You gonna bring this truck out to any shows? I would love to see it in person.

There is a cruise in at the Texas roadhouse on hwy 29 in taylors this Saturday. It starts at 5 if your interested.
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TR65 06-07-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bluex (Post 4721926)
You gonna bring this truck out to any shows? I would love to see it in person.

There is a cruise in at the Texas roadhouse on hwy 29 in taylors this Saturday. It starts at 5 if your interested.
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Hey Paul,

I'm not much on cruise ins but that is close by and it would be good to meet a board member...

TR

bluex 06-10-2011 01:22 AM

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Well if you decide to go shoot me a PM and I'll make sure I'm there. I'll be in the junky looking truck in my avatar...

Scot_Douglas 06-10-2011 08:21 AM

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My goodness - I just saw this thread. You do outstanding work. Love it!

glos55 07-09-2011 02:20 PM

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You certainly have talent!! Your workmanship is outstanding!!!

bluex 07-09-2011 04:41 PM

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He's also a super nice guy and that truck is even better looking in person than in the pictures. Its very clean and neat for a daily driven classic!!

enick72 07-30-2011 01:09 AM

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nice :metal:

Dinos63 07-30-2011 11:06 AM

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nice work!! wow

towersddg9 07-30-2011 12:04 PM

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Very Cool, question, where did you get the duel elec fan asmbly, and what size apx are the fans Thanks

TR65 07-30-2011 05:28 PM

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Thanks for the kind words guys! The truck is a real pleasure to drive with the LS2 and 6 speed.

BlueX - Good to hear from you, hope all is well, and thanks.

Towers, Here is the fan setup I run. I fabbed a frame out of aluminum angle and mounted it with the existing holes for the old fan shroud. It is nice having 2 fans since the ECM decides if it needs one or two. Never calls for 2 unless sometimes when the AC is running. The fans pull 12 amps each.

Would be a lot cheaper to salvage electric fans from the junk yard though.

http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/..._Code=30102052

TR

towersddg9 07-30-2011 06:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TR65 (Post 4819292)
Thanks for the kind words guys! The truck is a real pleasure to drive with the LS2 and 6 speed.

BlueX - Good to hear from you, hope all is well, and thanks.

Towers, Here is the fan setup I run. I fabbed a frame out of aluminum angle and mounted it with the existing holes for the old fan shroud. It is nice having 2 fans since the ECM decides if it needs one or two. Never calls for 2 unless sometimes when the AC is running. The fans pull 12 amps each.

Would be a lot cheaper to salvage electric fans from the junk yard though.

http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/..._Code=30102052

TR

Thanks good info

laynrockers 07-28-2012 01:12 PM

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Thank you for taking the time to write up your LS swap like you did. I just got my LY5 and 4l60E yesterday so i am going back through all the threads and you deserve more props then your getting. Great job and thanks for the attention to detail:metal:

TR65 07-29-2012 01:13 PM

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Thanks Kris.

Good luck on your project. I feel good every time the LS motor cranks up.

TR

1enick72 08-13-2012 11:58 PM

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Great thread, truck and very nice work. Thanks for the details and pictures. I am in process of doing a LT1/T5 swap and have been working on a crossmember brake bracket combo like what you have made. I will now combine what I have worked out and some ideas from yours and hopefully make something work well. Where did you get your tank from? I currently have a TPI engine with a return running the stock sending unit and tank. The fumes are killing me so I need to do something.

TR65 08-14-2012 08:46 PM

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Thanks!

I can say that after a couple of years of use the e-brake setup has worked perfectly.

My tank is from Rick's Hot Rod Shop. Very expensive. It is a very nice piece. 4" below the frame at the back, 5-1/2" below the frame at the front. Can't see it. Fully baffled for the EFI pump which was included.

Good luck with your build!

TR

pine trees 12-16-2012 09:03 PM

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good job. you are a fabricating wizard

ljackson 01-22-2013 05:54 PM

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Very clean install, Thanks for the thread.

Arekusu 01-22-2013 07:18 PM

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Hello, I've had this thread bookmarked for a while. Love the truck / swap.

I am wondering though, your goal was 20+ MPG on the way to work (which I assume is highway) did it meet the goal? What did the truck end up getting? It's all steel and 60's aerodynamics.. but the 6-speed should have helped a little.

I swapped an 87 Rx7 to an LS1 , T-56 and get 27 ish MPG highway at 80 mph on flat land.. so I'm asking cause I wouldn't mind finding an ok truck and doing an LQ4 swap on it.

Great fab and great threat!

Alex

TR65 01-23-2013 12:30 AM

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Thanks for the kind words men.

Alex,

I have posted the mpg story on some of the mpg threads. After careful measurements, Odometer calibrated with GPS, same gas station parked the same way at the same pump etc. I can't get but an average of 17.5 mpg. I have a C6 Vette with exactly the same final drive ratio, both run 70 mph at 1800 RPM. Basically the same engine. On the same circuit same speeds back and forth to work the Vette gets a true 21 mpg. That huge difference I believe is due to aerodynamics. Our trucks are rolling billboards.

So I was disappointed but the truck is a great ride and I drive it every day in good weather, the Vette is the bad weather car.

TR

Arekusu 01-23-2013 03:28 AM

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I smiled when you said the Vette is the bad weather car. :) Thanks for the info! Ya I had a feeling the aero. was going to inhibit it a bit. Thanks again!

Andy4639 01-23-2014 11:40 PM

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So I was disappointed but the truck is a great ride and I drive it every day in good weather, the Vette is the bad weather car.




That's funny right there.
This is some right up! Man you should be very proud! I can't wait to see this truck in person! My hat is off to you sir. Great job on a great truck and write up about it.
;):chevy:

greg65 05-30-2014 04:57 PM

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subscribed

boynton 07-17-2014 10:48 AM

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Great write up one of the best I've read.

BlueRidgeMountainDew 08-29-2014 11:37 AM

Re: TR65 LS2 T56 Engine Swap 65 C10
 
Awesome work, clean and nice, really like the truck and your craftsmanship. Well Done

TR65 08-29-2014 10:20 PM

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Thanks for the kind words Blue,

I grew up in Stanley, NC. Not so far from you.

TR

roOstersan 03-23-2016 04:16 AM

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Another great thread. The attention to detail you have is what I envision for my own project, the skill, however, is lacking! But I won't give up! That's for the great info and detailed explanation. It is much appreciated.

Paul Y 04-01-2016 04:11 AM

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As others have said, great thread! The detail is helping me with my LS swap.

A question if you don't mind, on drivability.

I would love a "close ratio" T56 but looks like I am going to have to settle for a wide. Therefore, how do you find the gearbox in the truck? Can it pull 5th and 6th comfortably or does it feel uncomfortable? What rear end ratio are you running and height of tyres?

My LS is just a 5.3 so will be slightly differant in hp to your LS2 but would be good to hear your experiences.

Many thanks.

P. :D

boynton 09-16-2016 10:54 PM

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Excellent write up.

crakarjax 01-30-2017 06:18 PM

Re: TR65 LS2 T56 Engine Swap 65 C10
 
Thanks for this, I could not find a bit of info other than this thread on using the TBSS / SSR engine mounts! Looks like you found a fairly simple solution that's also pretty flexible wrt engine placement. How far is your oil pan from touching the crossmember with those mounts?

On a side note the brackets themselves are proving nearly impossible to find :)

TR65 02-01-2017 11:54 PM

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Thanks crakarjax,

I set the clearance at about 3/4", pan to cross member. The mounts have worked well with no trouble for several years now. They really are out of the way of everything.

TR

crakarjax 02-02-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TR65 (Post 7845865)
Thanks crakarjax,

I set the clearance at about 3/4", pan to cross member. The mounts have worked well with no trouble for several years now. They really are out of the way of everything.

TR

Nice! I did find a set of brackets and mounts on ebay, and I also found these aftermarket trailblazer mounts which look to give even more clearance:
http://www.tbssowners.com/forums/tra...or-mounts.html

I'm not sure I like that bushing style for motor mounts though. It looks like they were created in response to TB owners' mounts breaking, but I think I'll go with the stock mounts and brackets at first unless I run into clearance/breakage issues.

I will be running an f-body pan which is shallower above the crossmember, so I think I may try to sink the mounts into the crossmember to the point where the bottom of my oil pan ends up just slightly above the crossmember bottom. Do you foresee any problems with that approach based on your experience?

Low Elco 02-02-2017 03:03 PM

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Wow, this is nice! Great work.


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