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C/10 King 02-01-2011 12:19 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by TheSeeker (Post 4453559)
If its not for sale, and rumors are its inheritance for her son..Then I feel its rude to even ask for it..Dont get me wrong, Id love to have it, but if thats what she wants to leave her kid after she passes..then its kinda messed up to even assume she would sell it.

I kinda agree, but who started the rumor? Maybe someone who wants it worse? :uhmk:

leddzepp 02-01-2011 12:28 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 4453642)
But it's also got a black houndstooth seat, the only way a true Cheyenne Super got black interior was with buckets, and then they were solid vinyl.

Why was this only with a black interior?

Longhorn Man 02-01-2011 12:29 AM

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Rene... no way the air cleaner is stock. Those were only on performance cars. As mentioned before, it is probably worth quite a bit on its own.

ls1nova71 02-01-2011 12:35 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 4453676)
Why was this only with a black interior?

Black was the only interior color that there was no original houndstooth bench seat. Parchment, dark green, and blue were the only colors to have houndstooth. You could get buckets in those colors too, but no houndstooth on them.

leddzepp 02-01-2011 12:39 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 4453697)
Black was the only interior color that there was no original houndstooth bench seat. Parchment, dark green, and blue were the only colors to have houndstooth. You could get buckets in those colors too, but no houndstooth on them.

Cool, I learned something new today! I have had two Supers, one with blue houndstooth bench, and one with parchment houndstooth bench. I did know that the buckets were all originally solid vinyl. :metal:

C/10 King 02-01-2011 12:39 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man (Post 4453678)
Rene... no way the air cleaner is stock. Those were only on performance cars. As mentioned before, it is probably worth quite a bit on its own.

Thanks good buddy! :chevy:

C10_ustacould 02-01-2011 12:41 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
I am not well versed in the optioning of these trucks... yet, but the term great white buffalo comes to mind!

whisper: great white buffalo... great white buffalo... great white buffalo
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CircusWagonJim 02-01-2011 12:46 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 4453060)
I wonder why all the carriage bolts have no paint on the heads?
The swb bed (with an original paint "wood bed" floor), that i use to own,... had everything painted.
Wood, strips, and bolt heads.

Think this truck has been freshened up at some point in it's 40 year life?

AGREED! The first give away I saw to a resto was the bed floor- then all the other clues everyone has added- AND the side trim all appears to have been polished rather than the anodized duller finish from the factory.

Still a killer truck- surprised they didn't add buckets to make it a "full boat"!

C/10 King 02-01-2011 12:51 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by CircusWagonJim (Post 4453724)
AGREED! The first give away I saw to a resto was the bed floor- then all the other clues everyone has added- AND the side trim all appears to have been polished rather than the anodized duller finish from the factory.

Still a killer truck- surprised they didn't add buckets to make it a "full boat"!

Maybe the owner had a senior moment and didn't think about it. ;)

leddzepp 02-01-2011 01:10 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
The brake booster looks like a 3/4 ton unit too.

lolife99 02-01-2011 01:12 AM

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Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

CircusWagonJim 02-01-2011 01:17 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 4453792)
Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

The market is down on EVERYTHING!!!

C/10 King 02-01-2011 01:27 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 4453792)
Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Critter 02-01-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Duncan and son (Post 4453628)
...and it is not the original radiator...

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 4453642)
...the van tilt shift indicator doesn't do anything to make it look original either.

Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

too much stuff 02-01-2011 01:34 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by C/10 King (Post 4453820)
Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Just curious what your thoughts are on being original? (since you have seen it in person) I also noticed alot of things not quite correct, and no spid would be a big one to document everything. Don't get me wrong here, i would love to own it, and i am not picking it apart, just makes me wonder about originality of it.

lolife99 02-01-2011 01:34 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by C/10 King (Post 4453820)
Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Thanks for the reply.
I'm just trying to "dial-in" my price estimating.
I guess there is no way to recreate the SPID data from the VIN number?
(no GM source for this info?)

I really want to own a loaded swb, big block, Cheyenne Super,... sometime before I die.

Classic Bowties 02-01-2011 01:54 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by C/10 King (Post 4453820)
Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Add a true truck tilt to that list also, it looks to be a very deserving candidate. This is one beautiful truck, just not as original and untouched as pictured now. Mel

C/10 King 02-01-2011 02:04 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by too much stuff (Post 4453843)
Just curious what your thoughts are on being original? (since you have seen it in person) I also noticed alot of things not quite correct, and no spid would be a big one to document everything. Don't get me wrong here, i would love to own it, and i am not picking it apart, just makes me wonder about originality of it.

Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.

Classic Bowties 02-01-2011 03:05 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by C/10 King (Post 4453897)
Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.

Would have really left you scratching your head had she came across member chipflyer/outintheshop.com and had one of his spids installed. A customer in Modesto recently told me half of the shorties he comes across down his way are riding on chopped down frames, you just never know these days. Mel :chevy:

leddzepp 02-01-2011 05:04 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
Rene- I am surprised nobody has asked...did you get a pic of the VIN plate? That will tell a lot of the story. See if the original rosette (flower) rivets are still there. Also check the number and see if it begins CE1 or CE2. If CE2, it was 3/4 ton LWB, if CE1 it was 1/2 ton, either LWB or SWB...since it is a 71, if the VIN begins CE1, I would tend to believe it is a true SWB. Of course, you would need to crawl underneath and look at the frame to see if it has been cut and if the frame and cab numbers match.

That being said, as it sits this truck would still IMHO bring 15K with no problem. Add some upgrades as you stated, and 17-20K would sell to the right buyer.

ls1nova71 02-01-2011 06:31 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by Critter (Post 4453840)
Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

In the second pic of the engine compartment you can see that the column has the long shaft indicating that it's a van tilt. The shaft is 2 5/8" longer than a truck tilt. And the shift indicator can be seen in the pic that shows the tach. Trucks used a smaller font on it as opposed th the vans larger lettering.
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special-K 02-01-2011 08:00 AM

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I can't believe in all these posts no one has asked,"Is she single???":lol:

It's a sure fire nice truck. I love the color and it would only be better in solid color with a saddle interior. I did notice that's not an original dash bezel right off the bat.

DANTIP 02-01-2011 09:52 AM

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When the SPID is missing, my BS alarm goes off! I can hear it now!

Critter 02-01-2011 10:07 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 4454047)
In the second pic of the engine compartment you can see that the column has the long shaft indicating that it's a van tilt. The shaft is 2 5/8" longer than a truck tilt. And the shift indicator can be seen in the pic that shows the tach. Trucks used a smaller font on it as opposed th the vans larger lettering.
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Thanks, ok I see the longer shaft sticking out of the column now.

DANTIP 02-01-2011 10:16 AM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by Critter (Post 4453840)
Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

.

The original 4-core radiators are easily identified from just a top view. Paul is correct, the radiator is an after-market. Not a big deal, but since we were all looking at it as a possible Real-Deal truck, noticing the radiator was a very good catch.

Dieselwrencher 02-01-2011 05:04 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
This is still a very nice truck. It may not be all original, but I wouldn't care. :lol:

Zoomin 02-01-2011 05:21 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by C/10 King (Post 4453897)
Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.


The one thing that would help get past the missing SPID would be a Protect O Plate. There might be hope yet, but I have my doubts.

RenoKeene 02-01-2011 05:36 PM

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Wow, you guys are good! Glad I got the protecto plate and SPID for "Charlie's Truck".
What would Grandma's truck be worth if it was real?

DANTIP 02-01-2011 05:39 PM

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We all think this is a very nice truck! I for one appreciate the people that help everyone distinguish features of authentic trucks. There is an incredible amount of knowledge out there that I hope people continue to share. Hopefully people don't get offended by their comments.

Zoomin 02-01-2011 05:47 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by RenoKeene (Post 4455121)
Wow, you guys are good! Glad I got the protecto plate and SPID for "Charlie's Truck".
What would Grandma's truck be worth if it was real?

See post 53.

I'd like to hear Rene's opinion of the value if it was fake. Seems like "tribute" cars on the B-J auction fetch nice money anyway.

sameyrasmea72 02-01-2011 05:49 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 4453697)
Parchment, dark green, and blue were the only colors to have houndstooth. You could get buckets in those colors too, but no houndstooth on them.

What about saddle????? I don't recall ever seeing an original saddle houdstooth seat but I never thought about it.

sameyrasmea72 02-01-2011 05:51 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 4453787)
The brake booster looks like a 3/4 ton unit too.

I think you are right!!! I ahve never seen one like that on a 1/2 ton.

mcbassin 02-01-2011 06:00 PM

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Super nice truck, I'm amazed how much you guys know about these trucks. Seems like there wasn't very many trucks made the way this one is equipped. 40 years is a long time to keep one original too.

OldSkool71 02-01-2011 06:08 PM

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I am suspect of anything that loaded being original...especially with the SPID missing...red flag...It's still kewl...and that is what is kewl about these trucks and other vehicles for that matter...build the one you want...it may not be original...but its yours...and you can have the one you want with out BJ prices...:ito:

67-72trucks 02-01-2011 06:16 PM

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nice! That old lady drives in style

Nova70 02-01-2011 06:40 PM

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To bad it's not a LWB. :waah:

VA72C10 02-01-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nova70 (Post 4455289)
To bad it's not a LWB. :waah:

:lol::lol::lol: Now you've gone and stuck a stick in the hornet's nest ;)

RenoKeene 02-01-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 4455156)
See post 53.

I'd like to hear Rene's opinion of the value if it was fake. Seems like "tribute" cars on the B-J auction fetch nice money anyway.

I would say 16-18K as it sits, 0rig with documentation could bring 25-30. My Dad and 3 brothers are Auctioneers and 1 has worked B-J, a lot of the SOLD units are sold back to the seller.
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RCbowtie69 02-01-2011 07:50 PM

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All i can say is SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! & the sound of a Big Block is priceless :metal: :cool:

mcbassin 02-01-2011 07:53 PM

Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RenoKeene (Post 4455355)
Dad and 3 brothers are Auctioneers and 1 has worked B-J, a lot of the SOLD units are sold back to the seller.
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How do you make money buying your own truck? sorry to hijack I watch all the Barret auctions.


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