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wutnxt 05-05-2012 01:14 PM

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Dude your on page 2 before I got directed over here....as always look forward to see what happens...your crazy dude....

coulter 05-05-2012 03:47 PM

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this is gonna be a sweet build!!! gonna be watching this one

bigguy69 05-05-2012 03:56 PM

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Im in
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CRGRS 66 05-05-2012 05:06 PM

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I am in as well.

tincan1966 05-05-2012 06:20 PM

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I searched for 3 months trying to find those ellusive 3.73's for my HO72, finally gave in and ended up installing a Corporate 14 bolt from an '85 dually. If I had to do over again, I'd make sure to get the Cab and Chassis differential instead of a dually one- they are about 8" narrower.

gimmy 64 05-05-2012 06:44 PM

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i'm in. anybody want to start a pool for the amount of time after the truck is complete that Dino sells it?

Dunenutt 05-05-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gimmy 64 (Post 5354959)
i'm in. anybody want to start a pool for the amount of time after the truck is complete that Dino sells it?

He has pretty much saturated the market recently:lol::lol:, It may be around a while;)

Dinos63 05-05-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 63GMCKid (Post 5353760)
Well if you know what the current tire size is and what RPM you were turning at a given speed, the only ratios offered in the Eaton HO52/72's were 4.11, 4.56, and 5.13, so you could plug those numbers into an online gear calculator and figure out what ratio you've got by process of elimination.

Years ago there was a company that made a 3.73 gear set for the Eaton HO52/72, can't remember the name of the company, but it was a short production run, I personally have never seen such a R&P set for sale, I learned about it from the Eaton HO72 thread on Pirate4x4, so I would assume they are very rare, but it might be worth a shot trying to track a set down.

The Eatons are excellent axles, easy to work on, extremely strong, fairly light weight when converted to disc brakes (Lighter than a 14bolt with discs) and still lighter than a 14bolt with drums if you keep the drum brakes. Only downside to them really is the pinion bearings are weird and extremely expensive, there is a taper roller pinion bearing with a dual outer race, so its like 2 bearings in 1, usually runs about $400-$450 for a new one, and there is a double row ball pinion bearing that usually runs about $300-$350 new, and the double row ball pinion bearings aren't very desirable for obvious reasons.

An easy way to tell which you have without pulling the 3rd.... if you are looking at the axle facing the pinion, looking at the 5 bolt flange that retains the pinion bearing/seal, at the lower drivers side edge of that flange, if there is a small hump that looks like it has a channel extending behind it on the 3rd, and a small hump that extends from the rib right above the flange down to the flange face, both of those things mean it has the taper roller pinion bearing (Those are the oiling and oil return channels). If it doesn't have both of those features, then it has the double row ball bearing for the pinion bearing.

In my opinion these axles are worth putting a bit of work into to keep them running strong in these old trucks. If your 3rd ends up being one with the double row ball bearing pinion bearing, I would say its worth it to go on the hunt for another 3rd with the taper roller pinion bearing, usually you can get a complete axle or a complete 3rd for $50 to $200 on CL.

Now all of this is pointless if you want to run something numerically lower than 4.11, in which case I'd say just pick up a used narrow 14 bolt dually from a cab&chassis truck.

holy shh-- good info thanks

Dinos63 05-05-2012 08:24 PM

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always thanks duude for the coments:lol::lol:, after work today I got after getting the motor and stuff out. also this time i put engine inside my shop last time i left it out my boxer ate the plug wires off and had to have emergency surgery ( 1.700 I could got truck parts:lol:)but learned the hard way.I also pulled all that over load stuff off the rear too .My new gladiator cabinets came in and got them set up

Dinos63 05-05-2012 08:27 PM

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Dinos63 05-05-2012 08:30 PM

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cAlvis165 05-05-2012 09:00 PM

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I'm in. Love the heavy trucks. It never ceases to amaze me how little rust you have out there...

jhrusk 05-05-2012 09:37 PM

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cool pics,you have to love seeing those fat tires in your garage.

wutnxt 05-05-2012 09:57 PM

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Dude...
Your a machine...you never stay still....you never stop.....

wild4wheels 05-05-2012 09:58 PM

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Hey Dino, congrats on your old square body in the Gazette! ;-) (counting down, waiting for Broey to say something .....hehehe) Can't wait to see this dually build!

C@rnut001 05-06-2012 02:17 AM

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This is going to be a killer truck...I love what you have planned for it. Keep it up and keep the pictures coming....

erock805 05-06-2012 10:06 AM

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yo D looks good..

Btw you can also use a 3/4 ton rear out of a suburban if you cant find a cab and chassis. Or you can use those axles on shorten a dually rear end...

Did you decide to go with the Semis?

lolife99 05-06-2012 11:21 AM

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Dino,... are you going to run narrowed a-arms and dually rotors up front?
Or lengthened a-arms and standard 3/4-ton rotors?

Diesel Wheels makes some cool "direct-fit" 8-lug wheels that don't require $1k worth of adapters to use the 10-lug Semi wheels.
http://www.dieselwheels.com/DieselWheels/wheels.php

65Pickup 05-06-2012 04:06 PM

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Here we go again, too cool as usual.

66Gilbert 05-06-2012 06:34 PM

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Dino,

This is too cool, How do you find the time to do all this in such a short time frame. Between your appliance business, family, friends and taking your helper mechanic to the vet, there can't be that much time in one day!!

kart34 05-06-2012 08:00 PM

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way cool :metal::metal::metal:

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:48 AM

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always thanks duudes!! Eric i have a plan b on the rear end but i want to try and use this 7' one first. I got all 6 wheels 22" pete semis that will be here this week and will mock them up.We will see how they fit , if there to wide i got another late model rear end that i will narrow to what ever i need, and alway thanks buddy for the info on the wheels, keith you are one smart duude!I think( i hope:lol:) i have the front sorted out nate had some arm and already had the ball joint moved and when my wheels show with the adaptors i will see if i need to go in or out:lol::lol:
Didn't get much time today to work on my truck had wife stuff to do.But i did get the old front end broken down and check all my parts

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:53 AM

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man all the bolts and nuts are huge i havent been in this draw since my c50 built:lol::lol: and what a time saver this cordless impact get one of these on your fathers day list .my scrap pile is also getting bigger

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 66Gilbert (Post 5356654)
Dino,

This is too cool, How do you find the time to do all this in such a short time frame. Between your appliance business, family, friends and taking your helper mechanic to the vet, there can't be that much time in one day!!

:lol::lol: and you think for as hard i work i be skinny:lol::lol:

67cheby 05-07-2012 09:41 AM

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so is this one getting that pancaked crossmember ?

wutnxt 05-07-2012 09:47 AM

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Dude ..

I love my cordless impact....I don't know what I ever did before I bought it. Save that pile of scrap and build it up....your going to need to cash it in for beer when I come for my shop tour....LMAO****

55reasons 05-07-2012 11:39 AM

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Hmmm. A narrowed dually conversion on Semi wheels.

I've heard that somewhere before!

:lol:

DLOE65 05-07-2012 12:25 PM

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Looking good Dino! Valves are on the way!
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Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:31 PM

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so is this one getting that pancaked crossmember ?

:lol::lol: well i had a budget for this build and then well .... kind of blew it :lol: but really i think the stock cross member may work out better for the width well see

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wutnxt (Post 5357906)
Dude ..

I love my cordless impact....I don't know what I ever did before I bought it. Save that pile of scrap and build it up....your going to need to cash it in for beer when I come for my shop tour....LMAO****

:lol::lol:

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:45 PM

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Looking good Dino! Valves are on the way!
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werd ! thanks kat!

Dinos63 05-07-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 55reasons (Post 5358094)
Hmmm. A narrowed dually conversion on Semi wheels.

I've heard that somewhere before!

:lol:

yeah dang i saw your thread:lol:

Tazfink 05-07-2012 01:43 PM

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Subscribed!!! Can't Wait to see more!!

VA72C10 05-07-2012 01:43 PM

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Following along on this one too! You're going to sway me to build a 60-66 at some point with all your cool builds ;)

socallowboy 05-07-2012 04:07 PM

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Pete wheels! Bad ass, I have a stack of them but there 24.5

55reasons 05-07-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63 (Post 5358234)
yeah dang i saw your thread:lol:

No worries. Some other people would get butt-hurt over it, but I'm a firm believer in exchange of ideas and information and innovation for the betterment of any hobby.

If you decide to use a 14 bolt rear for some reason, let me know.

I think i have a cost effective alternative for the rear bolt pattern / brake setup to run 10 lug / lug-centric wheels without adapters to save money, weight, space, and time.

If you're interested, I can make another set while I'm making mine to safe cost and time. (Easier to do it all at once as a "production run")...

Shoot me a PM if you're interested in chatting about the idea.

Dinos63 05-07-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 55reasons (Post 5358753)
no worries. Some other people would get butt-hurt over it, but i'm a firm believer in exchange of ideas and information and innovation for the betterment of any hobby.

If you decide to use a 14 bolt rear for some reason, let me know.

I think i have a cost effective alternative for the rear bolt pattern / brake setup to run 10 lug / lug-centric wheels without adapters to save money, weight, space, and time.

If you're interested, i can make another set while i'm making mine to safe cost and time. (easier to do it all at once as a "production run")...

Shoot me a pm if you're interested in chatting about the idea.

cool i will

Dinos63 05-07-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 5358353)
Following along on this one too! You're going to sway me to build a 60-66 at some point with all your cool builds ;)

thanks muh hahah i stole that from delmo, yeah come on down were with us :lol:

Dinos63 05-07-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by socallowboy (Post 5358634)
Pete wheels! Bad ass, I have a stack of them but there 24.5

on the big red 67 dually c/50 i built thought about running the 24s, those wheels are huge!I got one of the 22" in today and those also seem huge :lol::lol:

Mad Rods 05-07-2012 11:10 PM

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Bigger is better!!!!
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